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To the ones' who have more insights on this topic, what is our base defensive alignment and what alignment are we in the most ?

I know Tim Banks usually likes to go 4-2-5 .. but seems like we use a lot of 3-3-5 with Leo Position as the third linebacker/DL.

Is Beasley more of the Sam guy ? How interchangeable are Mike and Sam in our current offense ? (Pruitt used to claim Mike and Sam are very interchangeable in his).

Thank you in advance for any insights.
 
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volmandu said:
To the ones' who have more insights on this topic, what is our base defensive alignment and what alignment are we in the most ?

I know Tim Banks usually likes to go 4-2-5 .. but seems like we use a lot of 3-3-5 with Leo Position as the third linebacker/DL.

Is Beasley more of the Sam guy ? How interchangeable are Mike and Sam in our current offense ? (Pruitt used to claim Mike and Sam are very interchangeable in his).

Thank you in advance for any insights.
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I don’t believe we have a Mike or a Sam playing on our offense.
 
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D-Vols said:
I don’t believe we have a Mike or a Sam playing on our offense.
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Sophomore Elijah Herring is expected to step into Tennessee’s starting lineup at the Mike linebacker position Saturday in the Vols’ home opener against Austin Peay alongside senior Aaron Beasley. Freshman Arion Carter, a former Top247 prospect from Smyrna (Tenn.) High School, is also in line to take on a bigger role after being part of the Vols’ linebacker rotation in Saturday’s opener.

Tennessee defensive coordinator Tim Banks said Tuesday that the 6-foot-3, 238-pound Herring is “a classic Mike ‘backer.” He made five tackles, including a half-tackle for loss, against Virginia after appearing in all 13 of the Vols’ games as a true freshman.

A former standout at Riverdale High School in Murfreesboro, Tenn., Herring finished last season with 11 tackles, including 2.5 tackles for loss and a pair of sacks. As a freshman, he primarily played on special teams and served as Tennessee’s Sam linebacker when the Vols chose to play three linebackers.
 
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volmandu said:
To the ones' who have more insights on this topic, what is our base defensive alignment and what alignment are we in the most ?

I know Tim Banks usually likes to go 4-2-5 .. but seems like we use a lot of 3-3-5 with Leo Position as the third linebacker/DL.

Is Beasley more of the Sam guy ? How interchangeable are Mike and Sam in our current offense ? (Pruitt used to claim Mike and Sam are very interchangeable in his).

Thank you in advance for any insights.
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Our defense looks like a 4-2-5 pretty much always and doesn't really play a SLB. I guess if we were more of a 3-3-5, you could call the Leo the SLB. James Pearce is someone who is agile enough to be a SLB, if we were in that alignment. Usually the 3-3-5 is more of something that an undersized defense would run if it had a bunch of smaller Safety/ LB types, like TCU in 2022. The Saban/ Pruitt/ Kirby 3-4 features a SLB like Dallas Turner for Bama but is completely different than Banks 4-2-5. It uses pattern matching and mostly zone concepts.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
We run primarily 4 man front with some situational exceptions. The 4-3 and 4-2 are calls more than sets in our defense. The five back sets are often disguised blitzes too. Lots of flexibility, but mostly 4 man front.
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I know you got some insight on Pili injury...
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
It’s not good. It sounds like he tore a tricep away from the bone and did other muscle damage too. No specific return date, but it’ll probably be late October, if he returns.
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If he tore muscles, tendons and ligaments, surgery is immediate. 8 to 12 weeks, PT might be longer. Depends on how severe. Mine took 12 weeks.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
It’s not good. It sounds like he tore a tricep away from the bone and did other muscle damage too. No specific return date, but it’ll probably be late October, if he returns.
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Thanks for the info! I couldn’t “like” the post because it sounds like the injury would hurt like he!! and be a long recovery. Best wishes to Pilli.
 
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FlyFishnVol said:
If he tore muscles, tendons and ligaments, surgery is immediate. 8 to 12 weeks, PT might be longer. Depends on how severe. Mine took 12 weeks.
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That has to make a guy sick to spend all that time building muscle and then watch it waste away during a 8-12 week recovery. Understand that a 20 year old puts it back faster than those of us who are “slightly” older…but still.
 
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Volanooga2521 said:
Our defense looks like a 4-2-5 pretty much always and doesn't really play a SLB. I guess if we were more of a 3-3-5, you could call the Leo the SLB. James Pearce is someone who is agile enough to be a SLB, if we were in that alignment. Usually the 3-3-5 is more of something that an undersized defense would run if it had a bunch of smaller Safety/ LB types, like TCU in 2022. The Saban/ Pruitt/ Kirby 3-4 features a SLB like Dallas Turner for Bama but is completely different than Banks 4-2-5. It uses pattern matching and mostly zone concepts.
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Thank you for the great info.
 
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Almost word for word what I read earlier on the board...but THAT wasn't from an "insicer". ;)
 
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WillisWG said:
Sophomore Elijah Herring is expected to step into Tennessee’s starting lineup at the Mike linebacker position Saturday in the Vols’ home opener against Austin Peay alongside senior Aaron Beasley. Freshman Arion Carter, a former Top247 prospect from Smyrna (Tenn.) High School, is also in line to take on a bigger role after being part of the Vols’ linebacker rotation in Saturday’s opener.

Tennessee defensive coordinator Tim Banks said Tuesday that the 6-foot-3, 238-pound Herring is “a classic Mike ‘backer.” He made five tackles, including a half-tackle for loss, against Virginia after appearing in all 13 of the Vols’ games as a true freshman.

A former standout at Riverdale High School in Murfreesboro, Tenn., Herring finished last season with 11 tackles, including 2.5 tackles for loss and a pair of sacks. As a freshman, he primarily played on special teams and served as Tennessee’s Sam linebacker when the Vols chose to play three linebackers.
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r/whoosh
 
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VAVol85 said:
That has to make a guy sick to spend all that time building muscle and then watch it waste away during a 8-12 week recovery. Understand that a 20 year old puts it back faster than those of us who are “slightly” older…but still.
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In my case, the surgeon could not reattach the bicep, he was able to anchor the ligaments and tendons. That was mainly do to the # of days it took to get the surgery done. He told me it should have been repaired within 72 hours. My elbow hurts everyday. UT Medical is a great sports medicine hospital. He'll be 100% in no time.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
You got that kind of injury Fly Fishing. Dang what a cast.
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Actually, I was helping a friend move and I underestimated the weight of his bed, I jerked it up and pop pop pop pop, muscles, tendons, ligaments detached. Hurt like hell...my fly fishing is still a thing, but it hurts...age has made it worse.
 
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FlyFishnVol said:
In my case, the surgeon could not reattach the bicep, he was able to anchor the ligaments and tendons. That was mainly do to the # of days it took to get the surgery done. He told me it should have been repaired within 72 hours. My elbow hurts everyday. UT Medical is a great sports medicine hospital. He'll be 100% in no time.
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Proximal biceps tear requiring anchor is a very long recovery, as the anchor takes a long time to heal into the bone. I thought I was going to need that surgery, and I was prepared for 6-9 months of rehab. I would surmise that an actual triceps tear (if that is in fact what happened) would require quite some time before a return to football.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Proximal biceps tear requiring anchor is a very long recovery, as the anchor takes a long time to heal into the bone. I thought I was going to need that surgery, and I was prepared for 6-9 months of rehab. I would surmise that an actual triceps tear (if that is in fact what happened) would require quite some time before a return to football.
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Agree
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Proximal biceps tear requiring anchor is a very long recovery, as the anchor takes a long time to heal into the bone. I thought I was going to need that surgery, and I was prepared for 6-9 months of rehab. I would surmise that an actual triceps tear (if that is in fact what happened) would require quite some time before a return to football.
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Tore my rotator, tore the bicep in my right arm in 2008. Have anchors in the arm as well. I had 4 months of physical therapy, and believe me, the first month was excruciating pain. Trying to regain my range of motion, and really, just any motion at all. Now, at age 70, I have pain in that arm constantly, and radiates down my arm. Just something I'll have to live with.
 
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