War in Ukraine

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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm only assuming that whatever additions they have after they reach 100% would still not be enough to prevent shortages and higher prices. That isn't an outlandish or out in left field assumption.
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The free market disagrees.

No doubt you're more knowledgeable than financial markets, comrade.

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volgr said:
Sure and it could happen here, but only if Western boots get involved. Ukraine isn't going to retake Crimea without serious help (more than Western funding and arms). Let's get real.
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You fail to understand than Putin's hold on power has limits. Given the massive and unsustainable losses to date by Russia, it's only a matter of time before Vlad "falls out a window".
 
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MG1968 said:
I said it early on if you want to win a war you have to make it as uncomfortable as possible for the civilians far away from the battlefield. In this case it was targeting Kiev and turning out the lights. Putin pussyfooted around until it was almost too late.
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Yeah I wonder if it strengthens support for the war, ala the bombings of London, or if it pushes them more for peace.

The russian argument before was that the Kievites didnt support the war because they werent involved. Now Putin has dragged them into it. We will see how it turns out, but based on how the war is going I doubt it breaks Ukraine anytime soon.

It does throw a monkey wrench into the argument that the fight was just about some contested "independent" regions in the east.
 
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volgr said:
The Russians waited months to do it. The US did it day one in Iraq.
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We wiped out the power 700kms away from the fighting? I am going to need a link to that.

We jacked up Baghdad, as that was the target from day 1. We also took Baghdad in 3 weeks, not 8 months later. We left most of the countries infrastructure intact.

This is another huge change from Russia, and it's not just narrative this time.
 
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volgr said:
I said from day one a peaceful negotiation should be found so that Ukrainians aren't needlessly killed. So, I get they are righting and killing Ukrainians. However, there is a much bigger agenda on the table for the West, and it isn't the narrative being sold (protecting Ukraine in a regional conflict with their older brother, Russia). Again, if this was about territory, Russia could have much more easily taken all they wanted in 2014. Your talking point aren't supported with anything other than western propaganda. Wake up.
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What talking points? Russia is the one going after Satan.

Russia did hold the territory in 2014. They were occupying Crimea and Donetsk from day 1. They dont even try to deny it with Crimea.

This is Putin trying to grab more. And as you pointed out Putin had to act sooner rather than later before Ukraine got too strong. Too strong to do what? Fight 10k rebels completely unsupported by the Russians? Nope, Ukraine had that from day 1. Putin was rightly worried they would get too strong where his military wouldnt be able to take and hold more land.
 
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volgr said:
The Russians waited months to do it. The US did it day one in Iraq.
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Why? What was the reason? I'm talking specifically what did the US target and why? It wasn't indiscriminate and you know it; you also know very well the reason. You make it sound like the US attacked civilians like Iraq did the Israelis with Scuds.
 
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volgr said:
Sure and it could happen here, but only if Western boots get involved. Ukraine isn't going to retake Crimea without serious help (more than Western funding and arms). Let's get real.
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So you are admitting now that Crimea, too, was stolen by Russia, but it's too late to take it back? I thought we were arguing just the southeastern parts of Ukraine right now.
 
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volgr said:
The Russians waited months to do it. The US did it day one in Iraq.
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That's because they thought they were going to waltz in and take over, not because of altruistic reasons ya goof. They were blasting away at neighborhoods, schools etc. right off the bat though. But I don't attribute that to malevolence when sheer incompetency is more likely.
 
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LouderVol said:
It's a gold star but its upside down. At least to how we would do it.
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I looked up their insignia that collection of three symbols doesn’t line up with a specific rank. It could be rank and detachment like Calvary, infantry, etc… no idea really and it may not be a rank designation even.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No idea but look at the rank patch in the middle of her chest plate in her body armor. Is that a gold star? No idea honestly
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I took the fuzzy black diamonds to be her officer rank as the Brits do it. Weird kind of stuff with pips, crowns , etc.
 
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AM64 said:
Why? What was the reason? I'm talking specifically what did the US target and why? It wasn't indiscriminate and you know it; you also know very well the reason. You make it sound like the US attacked civilians like Iraq did the Israelis with Scuds.
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The US didnt attack Iraqi citizens? Between sanctions and war how many hundreds of thousands died? To which Albright, when confronted with this, said it was worth it.
 
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