War in Ukraine

[Velo Vol]

I'm sure this necessitated a change of panties for our resident Putinistas

Footage of their reaction

 

[MG1968]

Bombshell leaked spy docs suggest Putin does have Parkinson’s and cancer

Cancer sucks and karma is a bitch.

 

[LouderVol]

Just new Russian "wars of liberation" ... soviet style. It's easy to move into a region, convinced splinter groups they are unhappy with the leadership and create revolution. The soviets did it all around the third world to sell their own turd world philosophy. None of those places improved as a result of Russian/Soviet agitation.

To be fair, we did exactly the same thing. Its funny us and the Soviets ended up on the same side at least once down in Africa.

Only reason I bring that up is because it's not about ideology like Ras wants it to be, Satan Satan Satan. It's about power, and what you are offered by the winning side you backed.

 

[LouderVol]

I'm waiting for them to argue for Moldova to be given back to Romania...

The only reason it hasnt in the past is because of Transnistria.

And it's not farfetched today. Moldova: record-breaking support for reunification with Romania

 

[Septic]

Bombshell leaked spy docs suggest Putin does have Parkinson’s and cancer

pancreatic cancer?

If true, RIP.

 

[NorthDallas40]

pancreatic cancer?

If true, RIP.

I wouldn’t be weighing the info very heavily he’s been fighting pancreatic cancer for quite a while now which is a known deadly and swift killer so I’m a skeptic. Now if ZH reports he has it then you can read something into it

Also never RIP on that asshat it’s more BIH

 

[LouderVol]

So you think Moldova should be part of Romania again?

Once again you're wrong about Transnistria. They were having issues with Moldova prior to the USSR splitting up. This is information that is not hard to research or for someone to find out on their own. Moldova was also never winning the war with Transnistria. Transnistria has now been governing themselves now for almost 30 years while being sandwiched in between Ukraine and Moldova. They are better off on their own and not as part of Moldova or any other country for that matter.

What you are doing is putting a pro western academic historical academic spin on this conflict without seeing it from the Transnistria side. Which is why you have no problem with Romania getting involved in this conflict on the side of Moldova. And let's be honest. Most of you clowns in here never heard of Transnistria until it was brought up and probably couldn't even find Moldova on a map.

I think if Moldova wants to be a part of Romania they should be. They have voted for it in the past and had Romania reject because of the Transnistria problem.

And yeah the Soviets were occupying Transnistria before the wall fell, not sure why you think I thought otherwise or that it helps your argument. Look up the Battle of Tighnia if you dont think the Soviets/Russians werent responsible for the continued existence of Transnsitria.

The russian occupying force makes up a great distraction for Ukraine. Tying down a bunch of Ukrainians away from the fight. I am a little surprised that Ukraine hasnt closed that little bubble.

 

[InVOLuntary]

What does 41% of Latvia’s military budget equate to?

about tree fiddy

 

[LouderVol]

This clip of Zelensky raises a lot of questions.

If the people of Crimea are Ukrainians under Russian occupation, then why was Zelensky mocking and ridiculing his own oppressed people for suffering from a water shortage? The Ukrainians in the audience were roaring with laughter at the expense of the Crimeans.

If it's rip-roaring funny when the people of the Crimean peninsula experienced shortages of potable water for years because of the Ukrainian government's policies, up until the Russian bombing of the dam in Kherson in the last week of February, then why is he complaining about Ukrainians experiencing water shortages now? Why did he stop laughing? Why is he making a difference in the residents of Crimea and the residents of Kiev? Obviously Zelensky and the people in his audience see a difference, so what's the difference they see between the residents of Kiev and the residents of Crimea? Hmmmmm...

Ugh in 2015 Crimea wasnt officially in ukraine, so I can see it a bit funny from his POV. They bit the hand that waters them and then got upset that they no longer get water.

I would like just one instance of a breakaway rebel region occupied by a foreign nation still getting supplied by the nation it broke away from. Because this isnt a Ukraine/West issue. It's a they chose to eff around and now they find out issue.

 

[LouderVol]

Bombshell leaked spy docs suggest Putin does have Parkinson’s and cancer

Yeah still no proof offered.

He would have track marks on his hands from any medical treatment OR testing. Doesnt mean cancer.

 

[Septic]

I wouldn’t be weighing the info very heavily he’s been fighting pancreatic cancer for quite a while now which is a known deadly and swift killer so I’m a skeptic. Now if ZH reports he has it then you can read something into it

Also never RIP on that asshat it’s more BIH

Yes, pancreatic cancer is all but a death sentence. It's usually discovered after it's spread and the survival rate is horrible. Even when caught early, the 5 year survival rate is less than 50%. I'd be surprised if that were accurate because I think he'd be showing more signs.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yes, pancreatic cancer is all but a death sentence. It's usually discovered after it's spread and the survival rate is horrible. Even when caught early, the 5 year survival rate is less than 50%. I'd be surprised if that were accurate because I think he'd be showing more signs.

I’ve known two people that had it. Past tense known. As you said it was discovered after it had already progressed and both went very quickly.

 

[DonjoVol]

I think if Moldova wants to be a part of Romania they should be. They have voted for it in the past and had Romania reject because of the Transnistria problem.

And yeah the Soviets were occupying Transnistria before the wall fell, not sure why you think I thought otherwise or that it helps your argument. Look up the Battle of Tighnia if you dont think the Soviets/Russians werent responsible for the continued existence of Transnsitria.

The russian occupying force makes up a great distraction for Ukraine. Tying down a bunch of Ukrainians away from the fight. I am a little surprised that Ukraine hasnt closed that little bubble.

So I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You're okay if Moldova wants to be a part of Romania. But if Crimea, Donetsk, or Luhansk wants to be a part of Russia that is not okay? And it's not okay for Transnistria, Abkhazia, or South Ossetia to have their independence? If you answer no then you have proven yourself to probably be the biggest hypocrite on this thread.

The Battle of Tighnia occurred after the Soviet Union ceased to exist. So you're wrong about the Soviets being involved. And they were wanting to break away from Moldova prior to the USSR breaking up. Another fact you ignore.

Once again you are telling a distorted and one sided view of history to fit a pro Western narrative.

 

[MontyPython]

Instead of ATACMS: Storm Shadow, cruise missile with 300 km range and 450 kg warhead, is about to be fitted to the first Ukraine SU-24 jet in Poland.

Poland to help Ukraine integrate Su-24 bombers with NATO SCALP missiles

Poland will integrate Soviet Su-24 bombers with NATO SCALP missiles. The Polish military is waiting for the arrival of the first Su-24M bomber of the 7th brigade of tactical aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Experts plan to ensure the integration of the Ukrainian aircraft with NATO-standard missiles.

Ukraine’s closest ally has two large aircraft repair factories that work with Western weapons. These are the WZL aviation military factories in Warsaw and Bydgoszcz, as well as the PZL State Aviation Plant in Mielec, next to which the Rzeszów military airfield is located.

The Polish factories already have experience equipping the MiG-29 with HARM AGM-88 anti-radar missiles. Now military engineers are faced with the task of equipping Su-24M with Guided Cruise Missiles Storm Shadow or SCALP. These missiles have an infrared homing head and a range of up to 300 km. They are in service in several NATO countries and have already been effectively used in the Middle East.

The high price of SCALP, amounting to $ 1.4 million, will not allow Ukraine to massively equip its Su-24 bombers. However, even a few missiles, launched from Ukrainian aircraft, can strike at Russian facilities in the deep rear. According to Polish experts, the installation of modern high-precision missiles on the bombers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is only a matter of time. This will allow Ukraine to hit targets located at a distance of 300 km from the front line.

The Scalp missile is a stealth missile and is able to escape radar detection as it flies at a very low altitude.

 

[MontyPython]

Six direct hits on the pontoon bridge in Kerson.

@volgr: "HIMARS not a game changer".



Today's strike on the pontoon crossing near the Antonivsky bridge in Kherson

 

[MontyPython]

 

[AM64]

The Russians, according to you all, are robbing appliances for missile parts and are just two weeks away from running out for the past 7 months. And these Iranian drones that are so problematic are made by a 2nd world power.

The technology in Iranian drones doesn't seem that difficult. I was flying model airplanes with engines in the early 60s - didn't have the radio controlled types, but sometimes it's just a matter of scale. Things are or can be so much easier today with digital technology, advances in robotics, and definitely with satellites that can tell you where you are - along with Google Earth (and similar) to give you the coordinates where you want to be. You could imagine a very rudimentary fly by wire control system with a hacked and modified cellphone as the directional brain - Waze and other programs on phones already tell you how to get from place to place. Anyway look what was found in one of the Iranian drones. There's always a market for banned technology in places like Iran ... and always somebody willing to smuggle what they want for a price.

Rotax Engine Found In Iranian Mohajer-6 Drone Downed Over Ukraine

 

[AM64]

Controlling the strait does have advantages.

Makes you think that since Russia needs passage through the Bosporus Strait they would think twice about attacking/sinking Turkish ships. But then Russians are always going to Russia things, so no guarantees on that logic.

 

[AM64]

To be fair, we did exactly the same thing. Its funny us and the Soviets ended up on the same side at least once down in Africa.

Only reason I bring that up is because it's not about ideology like Ras wants it to be, Satan Satan Satan. It's about power, and what you are offered by the winning side you backed.

I see it a little differently. We didn't seek to colonize, and we didn't import a failed system of government that would make people captives. On the whole I still agree with you that diplomats and policies of one country seeking to "save" another country are generally screwed up regardless of whether the goal was for good or bad.

 

[LouderVol]

So I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You're okay if Moldova wants to be a part of Romania. But if Crimea, Donetsk, or Luhansk wants to be a part of Russia that is not okay? And it's not okay for Transnistria, Abkhazia, or South Ossetia to have their independence? If you answer no then you have proven yourself to probably be the biggest hypocrite on this thread.

The Battle of Tighnia occurred after the Soviet Union ceased to exist. So you're wrong about the Soviets being involved. And they were wanting to break away from Moldova prior to the USSR breaking up. Another fact you ignore.

Once again you are telling a distorted and one sided view of history to fit a pro Western narrative.

If Russia leaves all those regions in question and the people still want to leave/get annexed I am all for it. I have been consistent in my stance that these areas are only seeking independence because the Russians have kicked out all others and is pushing a very small vocal minority as the one voice to be listened to.

If Romania invades Moldova, they kick out officials, and then host a sham referendum where 90%+ want to join Romania I would not support Romania annexing Moldova. Consistency.

I am also pretty sure I used Russia/Soviets when initially talking about the occupation of Transnistria. But this just got real interesting if you want to split hairs here. The Soviets never left Transnistria, so they magically became Russians after the collapse. Those Russians never had a reason to be there right? Because they arent the Soviets. So what was now Russia's excuse to be in Transnistria? And yes they very much did interfere with the fight, keeping it frozen. Again right as things were about to be settled.

You have a very slanted Russia can do no wrong stance.

 

[Septic]

Makes you think that since Russia needs passage through the Bosporus Strait they would think twice about attacking/sinking Turkish ships. But then Russians are always going to Russia things, so no guarantees on that logic.

What are the odds we have a boomer or two sneaking around the black sea?

 

[LouderVol]

I see it a little differently. We didn't seek to colonize, and we didn't import a failed system of government that would make people captives. On the whole I still agree with you that diplomats and policies of one country seeking to "save" another country are generally screwed up regardless of whether the goal was for good or bad.

Oh we very much did try to import our system of government in a very failed manner, and we didnt care. In pretty much every new "democracy" we established a new tyrant took power for decades with very few elections thrown in. They were only democratic in as much as they werent Communists.

 

[LouderVol]

What are the odds we have a boomer or two sneaking around the black sea?

99%

 

[DonjoVol]

If Russia leaves all those regions in question and the people still want to leave/get annexed I am all for it. I have been consistent in my stance that these areas are only seeking independence because the Russians have kicked out all others and is pushing a very small vocal minority as the one voice to be listened to.

If Romania invades Moldova, they kick out officials, and then host a sham referendum where 90%+ want to join Romania I would not support Romania annexing Moldova. Consistency.

I am also pretty sure I used Russia/Soviets when initially talking about the occupation of Transnistria. But this just got real interesting if you want to split hairs here. The Soviets never left Transnistria, so they magically became Russians after the collapse. Those Russians never had a reason to be there right? Because they arent the Soviets. So what was now Russia's excuse to be in Transnistria? And yes they very much did interfere with the fight, keeping it frozen. Again right as things were about to be settled.

You have a very slanted Russia can do no wrong stance.

I'm not talking about Russia. Those regions have a history of wanting to be independent prior to Russia, not the Soviet Union, getting involved like you claim.

In Georgia it goes all the way back to the old USSR. The Georgian government was pro Menshevik while South Ossetia was pro Bolshevik. They were 2 different communist factions. There was even a conflict in that region around the 1918 to 1920 period. So naturally when the USSR dissolved regions like South Ossetia and Abkhazia wanted their independence as well. This was without Russia getting involved. So according to what you said you should be supporting these movements as you would Moldova joining Romania.

 

[AM64]

What are the odds we have a boomer or two sneaking around the black sea?

I'm going with no clue, but it does look like we have Global Hawks from Sigonella keeping an eye on at least some of the Black Sea - and some other intelligence gathering manned aircraft (ours and some friendly countries).