War in Ukraine

[NorthDallas40]

Brezhnev, a Ukrainian, sent them in. Maybe the Ukrainians will turn over a new leaf and actually win a war they start this time. I have my doubts, but it's within the realm of possibility and time will tell.

You mean Brezhnev the head of the USSR? That Brezhnev Brucey? Is a Ukrainian heading the USSR now Brucey?

 

[JuicyBrucey]

You mean Brezhnev the head of the USSR? That Brezhnev Brucey? Is a Ukrainian heading the USSR now Brucey?

Brezhnev bit off more than he could chew in Afghanistan. I'm thinking the current generation of Ukrainian bureaucrats are too big for their britches too. But if the Ukrainians do end up defeating the Russians, I'll concede that you and your Sarah Ashton-Cirillo were correct after all.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The USSR bit off more than they could chew in Afghanistan. I'm thinking the current generation of Russian bureaucrats are too big for their britches too. But if the Ukrainians do end up defeating the Russians, I'll concede that you and your Sarah Ashton-Cirillo were correct after all.

FIFY

 

[JuicyBrucey]

implant w/ bone graft

I had a sinus lift bone graft in addition to a bone graft to rebuild the maxillary bone to make it wide enough for a rear molar implant after a dentist in Tennessee tore out a lot of bone after an extraction. My current dentist did both grafts and the implant four months ago, but I have to wait one more month for the crown since it takes five months for the synthetic material to fully integrate properly with the bone. It's been $1,300 so far, but I don't know how much the crown will be. I definitely should've had a root canal instead of an extraction. I won't make that mistake again.

 

[tvolsfan]

Odessa was founded by Catherine the Great before the state of Tennessee even existed.

Which means nothing.

 

[apevol]

I had a sinus lift bone graft in addition to a bone graft to rebuild the maxillary bone to make it wide enough for a rear molar implant after a dentist in Tennessee tore out a lot of bone after an extraction. My current dentist did both grafts and the implant four months ago, but I have to wait one more month for the crown since it takes five months for the synthetic material to fully integrate properly with the bone. It's been $1,300 so far, but I don't know how much the crown will be. I definitely should've had a root canal instead of an extraction. I won't make that mistake again.

shouldve gone to Vietnam for it

 

[Burhead]

The Dutch are paying to have another 45 T-72s to be refurbished by the Czechs as well.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The Dutch are paying to have another 45 T-72s to be refurbished by the Czechs as well.

@AM64 check out line item 1. HAWK still representin’ after all these years!

 

[DonjoVol]

So Russia has a $60 billion annual budget for its military... which is about the same (or possibly less than) what the West/NATO has sent to Ukraine in just 8 months.

You were correct in your assessment that these guys and gals here like take things and run with it like a bunch of wild mustangs.

 

[DonjoVol]

And there hasn't been a day where Chinese and Russian troops have been on NK soil.

Russia and China have military bases in North Korea?

 

[NorthDallas40]

You were correct in your assessment that these guys and gals here like take things and run with it like a bunch of wild mustangs.

Another really stupid hot take conflating “per annum” with “single grant”. And nobody is shocked

 

[hog88]

Russia and China have military bases in North Korea?

Bases? IDK but both have had troops there since the country was formed.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Russia and China have military bases in North Korea?

No they’re sleeping in alley ways and out in open fields in tents Curly

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Which means nothing.

Russians founding Odessa in 1794 means "Russians weren't living there in any meaningful numbers until after the Soviet Union was established" isn't quite true. And ironically, it was Ukraine that first came into existence in 1917 as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution and the establishment of the Soviet Union.

 

[tvolsfan]

Russians founding Odessa in 1794 means "Russians weren't living there in any meaningful numbers until after the Soviet Union was established" isn't quite true. And ironically, it was Ukraine that first came into existence in 1917 as a result of the Bolshevik Revolution and the establishment of the Soviet Union.

Means nothing

 

[DonjoVol]

Bases? IDK but both have had troops there since the country was formed.

Do they have troops there today? If so provide the link.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

shouldve gone to Vietnam for it

Who do you recommend there? I haven't been to dentists there aside from routine cleaning. I had the grafts and implant done in Korea. I thought about getting it done by the dentist on North Peters Drive in Knoxville. My father's teeth were in very poor shape which actually caused sepsis, so he went there in 2008 and had all of his teeth replaced with implants and has never had a single issue with any of them.

 

[apevol]

Who do you recommend there? I haven't been to dentists there aside from routine cleaning. I had the grafts and implant done in Korea. I thought about getting it done by the dentist on North Peters Drive in Knoxville. My father's teeth were in very poor shape which actually caused sepsis, so he went there in 2008 and had all of his teeth replaced with implants and has never had a single issue with any of them.

don't know who to recommend, just know its super inexpensive in Vietnam. Had a vietnamese ex who wanted me to get it done there.

 

[JuicyBrucey]

Means nothing

Sarah's girl #3: The Russians weren't in the region until the Soviet era.
Stooge #4: Russians founded Odessa in 1794.
Sarah's girl #2: Which means they weren't there until the Soviet era.
Stooge #4: The USSR was established in 1917.
Sarah's girl #2: Which means the Russians founded Odessa in the Soviet era.

You gals have gotten high as a kite from sniffing Sarah's braps.

 

[DonjoVol]

 

[hog88]

Do they have troops there today? If so provide the link.

Information our of NK is so readily available.

 

[AM64]

@AM64 check out line item 1. HAWK still representin’ after all these years!

It's amazing they are still going after all these years. The Hawk radars I worked on were almost all vacuum tubes with a few solid state devices like diodes thrown in. Even the missiles had miniature tubes with solder leads. I've always enjoyed working with tube circuits a lot more than solid state stuff. The ones for Ukraine almost have to be the Improved Hawks with upgraded electronics. The fondest memories were the weeks during Annual Service Practice; each Hawk and Nike battery on Okinawa got something like ten days to move the equipment and get it all set up to fire at drones every other Friday. We were really close to three of the launchers. I bought a Minolta SRT-101 and snapped as many launches as I could - you really have to be quick to find and aim at the right launcher because the acceleration off the launcher is amazing. After the first weekend firing, I decided I needed a telephoto lens - this is one of the first shots with that lens - timing and aiming with the telephoto lens was a lot more critical.

The other great part was that I got to drive this the whole time. By then I was a SP-5 (E-5) and could have a car and a drivers license. The guy who owned the car got one too many tickets, lost his license, and needed a chauffeur. Bad luck for him, and good luck for me. We used an abandoned WW2 Japanese airbase called Bolo Point for the firing range. The airfield was coral and we had a lot of rain during that time of year - impossible to keep anything clean. Seems like the guy in the picture was one of the missile repair guys - we were all in an Ordnance company attached to an Artillery brigade. Driving all over the island to the Hawk sites and working on radars was one of the most enjoyable times of my life - except for the fact that the Army did just about all it could do to take the enjoyment out of the job.

 

[AM64]

Odessa was founded by Catherine the Great before the state of Tennessee even existed.

You mean the Russians found an existing settlement there and expanded it. The Greeks, Lithuanians, and Turks were all there at one time or another until the Russians defeated the Turks and annexed the place. That's the thing about colonialism, and conquest, and empires, and who owned what and when. The Romans owned England once and England owned India once - doesn't really mean either was the founder or had a claim other than they were able to take a place by force.

 

[LouderVol]

I never said I was against American military bases or deployments. But if we are allowed to have them then other countries are as well. Including Russia. The problem is you have guys on this thread who think that the U.S. and its so called "allies" are the only ones allowed to have any military presence in the world. Not only is this an arrogant attitude to have but it is wrong as well.

And we've gone over this before. You and others had no problem with U.S. involvement in Ukraine previously which they helped with the coup that ousted Yanukovych. He wasn't playing ball the way the U.S. and European political elite wanted him to so they helped get rid of a democratically elected president. Which is the reason you saw Donetsk and Luhansk form independence movements and why Crimea decided on their own not to be a part of Ukraine. You guys can try to spin it any other way but those are the facts and how things transpired. The U.S. military industrial complex also needs these conflicts as well in order to sell their products.

Speaking of Saudi involvement in Yemen. How much in weapons have the U.S. sold Saudi Arabia that the Saudis have been using over the years to attack Yemen. So the U.S. is involved in Yemen just like they are in Ukraine. We don't have to have troops on the ground to be involved.

And once again the independence movements in Transnistria, Abkhazia, and South Ossetia were not encouraged by the Soviet Union nor Russia. Russia did not invade any of those regions either. You are grasping for straws in that argument because western media and politicians do not approve of those independence movements. So you're simply going along with what they're saying without researching the full history and original history behind those conflicts. Which you refuse to do.

Lol. I gave you the entire timeline of the Transnstrian war. You started off saying the russians werent involved at all until I gave you the name of the biggest, but not only, battle they interfered with. You also falsely claimed it only started after the fall of the USSR, when it got deadly in 1990 and continuous combat started in late '91 before the fall of the USSR at the end of '91. You continue to skip right past your argument that their freedom movement began in the 80s, but fail to realize that the Russians/Soviets were in charge at that time and made sure their freedom wasnt a thing.

Here are a list of all known Russian military deployments. Russia’s Extraterritorial Military Deployments - New Lines Institute
I havent seen anyone complain about Venezuela, Sudan, Belarus, Madascgar, the C.A.R. Syria, Krygstan, Kazahstan.

And this doesnt even cover their temporary deployments like in Nicargua this year, Cuba, and I am sure plenty of others.

^^^^^We dont care about Russia being in other countries. Heck we dont even care when they are in our hemisphere if that makes a difference to you.

Where we care is where Russian troops get involved and a different country loses land and lives. Note the AND, it's a very big AND. It's not acceptable when we do it, not sure when the last time that happened though, and it's not acceptable when Russia does it. It's not ok when Russia does it, it's not ok when America does it. I will say again because you refuse to actually read what I say. ITS NOT OK WHEN WE DO IT, ITS NOT OK WHEN RUSSIA DOES IT.

If you are bothered by one side doing it, you should be bothered when the other does it. I can say i hold that same standard. Can you? I gave you at least 5 nonborder examples where I dont care that Russia has bases or deployed troops, no one here has expressed anger at those deployments. And it's because those countries arent losing lives and or land to the Russians. But you take exception to every single base we have.

If it's not an occupation of any of these lands, why are Russian troops still there, when Russia is at war and having to conscript 300k men????? None of these other lands are currently undergoing strife or warfare. The Russians arent needed, but they are there, holding the nations hostage, making puppets, and disrupting the regions.

It's bad when we do it, but for some reason you cant find one critique of Russian foreign policy. You really going to try and sit there and say you believe that 100% of Russians actions in all these countries are on the up and up? I dont care what the US did, I already said they/we are bad. I want to see you apply some actual critical thought to Russian foreign policy as a stand alone statement. So far you have been completely avoiding it, fighting every single bit of dirt pointed out when it comes to Russia.

 

[AM64]

That's what Sarah's girls have been saying about South Korea in this thread, that it wouldn't exist without the presence of foreign soldiers.

You mean in 1950 that Korea would have fallen to a Communist backed N Korean surge into S Korea if we and the UN hadn't gotten it turned around - and that a few months later S Korea would have been taken by the Chinese - not the N Koreans if not for the US and the UN. Probably both could have been averted if McArthur had decent intelligence and had a clue what was happening in Korea. My family (including me) was stationed at Kimpo in 1947-48. I learned from my parents later that the N Koreans were always infiltrating and even some maids and houseboys in US homes turned out to be N Korean spies.

Take away Russian and Chinese support for N Korea, and S Korea would do just fine on it's own now. What you and others here fail to understand is that without Russian and Chinese meddling around the world, we wouldn't need to be countering them.