War in Ukraine

[Orange.]

The reporter laughed? LAUGHED!? *gasp* Well oh my goodness that charges everything. EVERTHING I SAY!

^- this is an example of what your posts look like, Karen. This is another example:

In order to give Crenshaw a chance to play it off as a joke. Crenshaw then denied that he was joking or exaggerating, and stated that his threat was "serious." Sorry broheim.

Perhaps your half-arse ignorant "spinning" and dodging is a case where your peeps' own "friendly-fire" spin sold you yourself on misinformation. Most of the propaganda and misinformation sites, dba as "news," completely omitted or censored the key tweets in an effort to deceive the public.

The liar Crenshaw is busted.

 

[MontyPython]

You must be apart of the military complex. You honestly think, more weapons are going to matter?

Yes, more weapons matter. If the US had pulled military support for Ukraine, they would have been in deep trouble.

Surely you recognize that while Russia is, indeed, successfully taking new Ukrainian land, they’re doing so at an absolute snail’s pace and at absolutely enormous expense of both materiel and dead/wounded Russian troops.

The Russian economy is struggling, as well. Inflation and interest rates continue to climb due to the war footing established by King Pooty.

Things are far from rosy in Russia.

If Donald really wants to end the war, give Ukraine more advanced weaponry and tell Pooty we’ll only ramp up supplies until he says Uncle.

If you think Donald is Mr. Tough Guy, then you and he should know that strength and power are the only things Pooty really respects.

 

[NorthDallas40]

And why should his thoughts about Trump be much of a big deal?

The issue is Carlson lied. Repeatedly. In public he was throwing red meat to the masses supporting Trump. In private via his personal texts which his employer Fox News released he clearly stated he didn’t believe what he was saying publicly. He lied. It’s not even debatable. And when confronted on it his anger wasn’t that he said he didn’t lie, he never refuted the content of his own texts. He was angry that he was outed as a hypocrite. Thus some of us, myself included, give a full throated laugh when Carlson is trotted out as any kind of a source now. That’s it in a nutshell

 

[NorthDallas40]

In order to give Crenshaw a chance to play it off as a joke. Crenshaw then denied that he was joking or exaggerating, and stated that his threat was "serious." Sorry broheim.

Perhaps your half-arse ignorant "spinning" and dodging is a case where your peeps' own "friendly-fire" spin sold you yourself on misinformation. Most of the propaganda and misinformation sites, dba as "news," completely omitted or censored the key tweets in an effort to deceive the public.

The liar Crenshaw is busted.

This is another example of what I was referring to when I said only a smooth brain moron could watch the video and not see that Crenshaw was speaking in hyperbole.

 

[dalton_vol]

Yes, more weapons matter. If the US had pulled military support for Ukraine, they would have been in deep trouble.

Surely you recognize that while Russia is, indeed, successfully taking new Ukrainian land, they’re doing so at an absolute snail’s pace and at absolutely enormous expense of both materiel and dead/wounded Russian troops.

The Russian economy is struggling, as well. Inflation and interest rates continue to climb due to the war footing established by King Pooty.

Things are far from rosy in Russia.

If Donald really wants to end the war, give Ukraine more advanced weaponry and tell Pooty we’ll only ramp up supplies until he says Uncle.

So you're fine with America giving Ukraine more weapons until every Ukrainian is Dead is that what your thought. You're just prolonging Ukraine's loss while more people are pocketing billions off American taxpayer that shouldn't. If we're serious, Biden should have had troops on the ground three years ago

 

[MontyPython]

Like bearded I also really enjoy pearl clutching by Carlson’s minions after he admitted to openly lying to them. In fact he was mad Fox outed him lying. He never denied he lied. So no Carlson is a POS and not worth any outrage.

Carlson molests Collies. Judge Smails told me so.

 

[MontyPython]

So you're fine with America giving Ukraine more weapons until every Ukrainian is Dead is that what your thought. You're just prolonging Ukraine's loss while more people are pocketing billions off American taxpayer that shouldn't. If we're serious, Biden should have had troops on the ground three years ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re now selling them weapons not giving them weapons. And if Mexico invaded us, I guess you would just roll over and give up, wouldn’t you?

 

[LouderVol]

So you're fine with America giving Ukraine more weapons until every Ukrainian is Dead is that what your thought. You're just prolonging Ukraine's loss while more people are pocketing billions off American taxpayer that shouldn't. If we're serious, Biden should have had troops on the ground three years ago

you are assuming that Russian occupation would be bloodless for Ukraine. there are several hundred years of history that say it would be very bad for Ukraine. far far more loss of life than fighting them has been. and many Ukrainians are old enough to remember those lost to the Russians before this conflict.

 

[Orange.]

The issue is Carlson lied...

False -- and you know it. The issue is the threat, and has been from the start, and all you've been doing all day is dodging and moving goalposts, omitting decisive facts, resorting to name-calling, making obvious appeals to readers' prejudices, ranting, and multiplying spin jobs aimed at the mentally incompetent all day.

The reporter who heard the threat and Crenshaw's own double-down are the sources. What does your obsession with Carlson and you hanging on the nuts of Fox Houston have to do with me? Nothing. I never said a word about either except that I don't pay them any attention. You're trying to con stupid people and shout down people you disagree with. Which is a pattern with you.

Your hate does not alter the facts outside of your own crazy head.

... speaking in hyperbole.

Crenshaw was asked by the reporter (not by your boys Carlson and Fox), and Crenshaw said "he was NOT speaking in hyperbole or joking and that said he was "serious."

I hope no one is stupid enough to buy your garbage.

 

[Orange.]

Your penultimate argument is:

If NorthDallas40 hates any person x, x is not entitled to equal protection under the law; the criminal threats on the life of x are even to be celebrated.

NorthDallas40 says that Carlson is such an x.

Therefore Carlson is not entitled to equal protection under the law; and threats against him are even to be celebrated.


Now your final argument (in an endless series of morphing arguments) has shifted to:

If NorthDallas40 says that any person x has lied, x is not entitled to protection under the law against threats on his life.

Tucker Carlson is such an x

Therefore Carlson is not entitled to protection under the law against threats on his life.

But ____, ____, and ______ have lied.

Therefore...


You've been essentially lying this entire time.

 

[Orange.]

You're logic is as bad as BeardedKarineJean-Pierre's. You're incompetents. You lie and spin non-stop. And you're boing. The end.

Stay and rant all you want.

 

[BeardedVol]

So you're fine with America giving Ukraine more weapons until every Ukrainian is Dead is that what your thought. You're just prolonging Ukraine's loss while more people are pocketing billions off American taxpayer that shouldn't. If we're serious, Biden should have had troops on the ground three years ago

I'm fine with giving Ukrainians weapons for as long as they choose to resist the Russian barbarians who have invaded their lands and attempted to genocide them into nonexistence.

 

[NorthDallas40]

False -- and you know it. The issue is the threat, and has been from the start, and all you've been doing all day is dodging and moving goalposts, omitting decisive facts, resorting to name-calling, making obvious appeals to readers' prejudices, ranting, and multiplying spin jobs aimed at the mentally incompetent all day.

The reporter who heard the threat and Crenshaw's own double-down are the sources. What does your obsession with Carlson and you hanging on the nuts of Fox Houston have to do with me? Nothing. I never said a word about either except that I don't pay them any attention. You're trying to con stupid people and shout down people you disagree with. Which is a pattern with you.

Your hate does not alter the facts outside of your own crazy head.


Crenshaw was asked by the reporter (not by your boys Carlson and Fox), and Crenshaw said "he was NOT speaking in hyperbole or joking and that said he was "serious."

I hope no one is stupid enough to buy your garbage.

No Karen. Crenshaw’s issues with Carslon and why he called him an elitist piece of **** is because of the example I gave. His unrepentant hypocrisy related to his public statements RE Trump vs his private texts showing he doesn’t believe his own public statements. That being said Crenshaw needs to practice a bit of what he preaches when he called out MTG for conduct not becoming the office. That’s it. His comments aren’t productive and actually give POS’s like Carlson a voice when smooth brains such as yourself pick up the DeAtH ThREaTs! stupidity from his hyperbolic comments. And that is what this is unproductive hyperbolic comments that no one with a functioning brain could construe as an actual death threat.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You're logic is as bad as BeardedKarineJean-Pierre's. You're incompetents. You lie and spin non-stop. And you're boing. The end.

Stay and rant all you want.

Sure thing Karen. I’ll just keep “boinging”

 

[FortSanders]

I'm fine with giving Ukrainians weapons for as long as they choose to resist the Russian barbarians who have invaded their lands and attempted to genocide them into nonexistence.

History shows that Russia cannot sustain a long fight. They withdrew from Afghanistan with their tails between their legs. They lost 58,000 men and the war lasted just over 9 years and ended in 1989. The Soviet Union disintegrated. The same will happen with Russia. They will beg for help from their friends, including China who will increasingly be reticent to help them. At some point, Putin will kick off and Russia will tear itself apart.

It appears to me that Trump is bailing Russia out.

 

[hog88]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re now selling them weapons not giving them weapons. And if Mexico invaded us, I guess you would just roll over and give up, wouldn’t you?

 

[lawgator1]

From what I reads today Starmer said that a negotiated peace cannot reward the aggressor, who is Putin. Trump on the other hand said a ceasefire could lay the groundwork for a resolution.

Both statements can be true.

If Trump can wrangle an agreement that: a) the Ukrainians agree to; and b) truly memorializes a lasting peace and no threat of further hostilities from Russia, I'll be on board her to congratulate him.

However, the signals so far are that Trump is setting things up to side with Putin and to blame Ukraine for being unreasonable in refusing to accept whatever is ultimately put on the table, even though it fails the above test and in fact rewards Putin.

 

[BeardedVol]

From what I reads today Starmer said that a negotiated peace cannot reward the aggressor, who is Putin. Trump on the other hand said a ceasefire could lay the groundwork for a resolution.

Both statements can be true.

If Trump can wrangle an agreement that: a) the Ukrainians agree to; and b) truly memorializes a lasting peace and no threat of further hostilities from Russia, I'll be on board her to congratulate him.

However, the signals so far are that Trump is setting things up to side with Putin and to blame Ukraine for being unreasonable in refusing to accept whatever is ultimately put on the table, even though it fails the above test and in fact rewards Putin.

No paper agreement with Russia will stop them from invading without NATO membership for Ukraine. That's only thing keeping Russia from trying to retake countries like Estonia, Latvia and Poland.

If there is no guaranteed collective reprisal, then Russia always has a window to manufacture some nonsensical justification for invasion.

 

[lawgator1]

No paper agreement with Russia will stop them from invading without NATO membership for Ukraine. That's only thing keeping Russia from trying to retake countries like Estonia, Latvia and Poland.

If there is no guaranteed collective reprisal, then Russia always has a window to manufacture some nonsensical justification for invasion.

Then that is what we will have to do.

 

[Ritzwatch]

No paper agreement with Russia will stop them from invading without NATO membership for Ukraine. That's only thing keeping Russia from trying to retake countries like Estonia, Latvia and Poland.

If there is no guaranteed collective reprisal, then Russia always has a window to manufacture some nonsensical justification for invasion.

Agreed.

And I think the European countries should all make Russia well aware that if there are further invasions, there will be hell to pay.
We kept the peace there for 80 years. We are $38 T-trillion in debt. Let the socialists pay for their own defense for a while, before we go belly up and can't help them even if we want to. It is time for them to help us help them.

 

[BeardedVol]

Agreed.

And I think the European countries should all make Russia well aware that if there are further invasions, there will be hell to pay.
We kept the peace there for 80 years. We are $38 T-trillion in debt. Let the socialists pay for their own defense for a while, before we go belly up and can't help them even if we want to. It is time for them to help us help them.

We aren't $38 trillion in debt because of NATO spending. Overseas military bases only account for $55 billion annually in the defense budget, and our NATO common fund obligation is ~$690 million plus whatever we spend on our own NATO training exercises or deployments.

 

[Orange.]

Jake Tapper, who lied in denying Biden’s mental disability for years as a point man in the CIA-style US media misinformation campaign on the topic, blamed “the Russians” for the “conspiracy theory” that Biden’s noggin was cooked.


Sound familiar? Years of this same lie in this thread for years. Any fact people wish to deny or discredit.

Now Tapper has a book coming out to cover up his team’s cover up.

Beard’s go-to Ukraine sophism.