War in Ukraine

[Velo Vol]

I severely underestimated how much influence John Bolton, John McCain and George W Bush had on many Americans over the years.

Does the Cold War ring a bell?

 

[OrangeTsar]

We survived allowing Trump into office. Biden will be a cake walk.

Been to the gas station lately? Or the grocery store?

 

[Hunerwadel]

Hate to break it to you but a lot of this is happening right now, at this moment, because Biden is largely considered weak and inneffective both domestically and abroad.

The free world let out a collective sigh of relief when when the orange man boarded AF1 for the last time. That's just a fact.

 

[OrangeTsar]

It begins……
Putin’s Biggest Ukraine Blunder: Energizing German Rearmament

 

[volfanhill]

The free world let out a collective sigh of relief when when the orange man boarded AF1 for the last time. That's just a fact.

I am a noted Trump hater. I don't remember being this concerned about WWIII breaking out or potential nukes being exchanged. And to clarify I am not that worried. But it's on the radar.

 

[OrangeTsar]

The free world let out a collective sigh of relief when when the orange man boarded AF1 for the last time. That's just a fact.

Strange…..I don’t remember any serious fear of WWIII at any point between January 2017 and January 2021. did I miss something?

 

[Sandman 423]

Been to the gas station lately? Or the grocery store?

If Luth really works for a school system he will be okay. Government employee's get a raise regardless if their employer can afford it.

 

[0nelilreb]

Strange…..I don’t remember any serious fear of WWIII at any point between January 2017 and January 2021. did I miss something?

Yes you missed the fear mongering of the political left’s propaganda machine in full motion . The same one that’s fell silent , and apart now . Its would be comical if it wasn’t so potentially serious .

 

[AM64]

I am staying out of this debate for the most part but for all my friends on here who I respect your opinions and who liked this comment just ask yourself when has LG ever been on the right side of history?

This has turned out to be one strange thread. When you find you sometimes agreeing with EL, LG, and luther, you start wondering about the Apocalypse.

 

[volgr]

 

[AM64]

I credited you with more intelligence than this statement demonstrates. When did Putin start making the law for a country he doesn't currently rule?

You know how some of the thinking has gone about this lately. Apparently Putin's legal justification is that Russia needs to invade and subjugate Ukraine so he can legally make law there. Something like possession is more important than how someone gains possession.

 

[NCFisher]

With all the talk about Nazis! from Putin and his VN fan club, I decided to see what 'Nazis' were saying about Ukraine at the risk of winding up on DOJ/FBI's 'Terrorist Parents Watchlist'.

The Stormfront gang started sort of a poll "Which Side Are You onBoys". Some abstained from a side because the war is 'killing white people on both sides', while a couple picked Ukraine. Until it dissolved in about four pages to a "Jews....JEWZZZZZZ!" mess, a clear majority are rooting for Putin; mmmhhh....

Now, to be clear - unlike our VN nationalists calling Ukrainian nationalists 'Nazis', I'm not saying our VN Putin Appreciation Brigade are Nazis. Or propagandists. Noooo sirreee! They just rail about U.S. government like them, globalism, and they sure do admire that valorous Putin protecting the world against the corrupt West like them.

I'm nearly 100% sure it's mere coincidence.

 

[red butler]

I bet you lie awake at night worrying about Illinois Nazis as well, right?

Not particularly, no. But Illinois Nazis aren't receiving massive funding, training, and equipment from an adversarial world power either. Plus, their ideology isn't at all attractive to their local communities, much less nationally. Now if they started having public high-profile meetings with a certain Chinese representative on the armed services committee that has a track record of escalating violence in about every country he visits. Then they start getting elected to local and national office, having big parades in downtown Chicago, and erecting statues of Nazi SS heroes. Then I'd be really concerned.

Look, I'm willing to keep an open mind about all this Nazi stuff (I didn't want to get sucked into this debate anyway). I posted several western articles in the post Ukraine revolution time period because I thought they would be the least biased. I can accept that they were just peddling some media narrative for whatever they were trying to accomplish at the time. I don't buy that Nazis are the main reason Putin invaded Ukraine either. I believe the Ukraine/NATO talk is the red line that prompted the invasion

 

[volgr]

Once the real story comes out regarding the depth of Ukraine corruption and criminality, will history view Russians as liberators?

 

[MontyPython]

Russians beginning to have "inventory issues" with precision missiles, senior US defense official says

Russian forces are beginning to have “inventory issues with precision-guided munitions,” a senior US defense official told reporters on Monday.

Precision-guided munitions refer to missiles that target a specific location, as opposed to “dumb bombs,” which do not have the technology to focus on a specific target.

The inventory issues around their precision-guided munitions supply are why “you’re seeing the increasing use of what we would call dumb bombs,” the official added. Some of their precision-guided munitions are “failing to launch, or they’re failing to hit the target, or they’re failing to explode on contact,” the official said. They have used “quite a bit” of their “cruise missile, air launch cruise missile” supplies and have seen a significant “number of failures” of those munitions, the official said.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Not particularly, no. But Illinois Nazis aren't receiving massive funding, training, and equipment from an adversarial world power either. Plus, their ideology isn't at all attractive to their local communities, much less nationally. Now if they started having public high-profile meetings with a certain Chinese representative on the armed services committee that has a track record of escalating violence in about every country he visits. Then they start getting elected to local and national office, having big parades in downtown Chicago, and erecting statues of Nazi SS heroes. Then I'd be really concerned.

Look, I'm willing to keep an open mind about all this Nazi stuff (I didn't want to get sucked into this debate anyway). I posted several western articles in the post Ukraine revolution time period because I thought they would be the least biased. I can accept that they were just peddling some media narrative for whatever they were trying to accomplish at the time. I don't buy that Nazis are the main reason Putin invaded Ukraine either. I believe the Ukraine/NATO talk is the red line that prompted the invasion

It was a BLUES BROTHERS joke

 

[OrangeTsar]

Once the real story comes out regarding the depth of Ukraine corruption and criminality, will history view Russians as liberators?

No.
Are you saying anytime a country is corrupt, it’s neighbors have a license to invade?
LOOK OUT MEXICO!!!!!!

 

[hog88]

If true, good numbers.

 

[volgr]

No.
Are you saying anytime a country is corrupt, it’s neighbors have a license to invade?
LOOK OUT MEXICO!!!!!!

The corruption, which was rampant, will be a minor part of the story.

 

[hog88]

Once the real story comes out regarding the depth of Ukraine corruption and criminality, will history view Russians as liberators?

It would take indisputable evidence of some massive human rights abuses and corruption on a scale not seen since FDR was in office for Russia to be viewed as liberators.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Strange…..I don’t remember any serious fear of WWIII at any point between January 2017 and January 2021. did I miss something?

Evidently

 

[volgr]

Not everything in Russia is bad...can we do this here?

 

[volfanhill]

Once the real story comes out regarding the depth of Ukraine corruption and criminality, will history view Russians as liberators?

They are clearly being welcomed as liberators. So you think Russia isn't corrupt as hell? Good lord.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Once the real story comes out regarding the depth of Ukraine corruption and criminality, will history view Russians as liberators?

I am not quite sure. The Russians sure do know how to blow up Ukrainian apartment buildings though. They are liberating bricks from mortar superbly.

 

[DonjoVol]

So the far left democrats have joined forces with the far right old guard neocons as well as the corporate fascists. I guess Zeppelin might be onto something about that horseshoe theory of his.