Watching Clemson is so Aggravating

[BigOrangeTrain]

And here is yet another case of people looking at how good players are when they have ELITE talent on both sides of the ball. If Lawrence and Higgins were Vols, we likely wouldnt look much different than we did this year.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You people really need to forget about Butch. Too much obsession on VN. Let it go. Live in the future, not the past.

Yeah lets just forget about the guy who intentionally sabotaged this football program.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Clemson has taken our spot at the table. Its Going to be hard to get it back. Their getting all the recruits we took in the 90's.

Not all... they wanted Crouch just as much as we did.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

My venom is aimed at a couple of layers higher. A program of UT's stature can't be this impotent, this long, without systemic dysfunction. Where's the accountability??

Good luck with that accountability.

The current AD was making excuses about magic dust way back in 2005.

 

[jbr82]

Bama Dave Hart hired Butch. Enough said. But Hart is also the man who got rid of the Lady Vols logo. Moves like this hiring is the reason we are in the bad shape we are in. Least now we got things under control with Fulmer. We got the right football coach. Just have to give him time. Look at Saban when he first got to Bama. Their fans wanted him fired the first couple years. Until he got HIS recruits in there.

Who hired bammer dave? Bad hiring started with Jimmy Haslam influence.

 

[BigBadVol]

If we had had a real coach at the time Higgins, Rogers, Lawrence and Johnson would have all been Vols.

 

[orangemadam]

Wasn't there a thread a couple days ago or at least a few comments to the effect that even if we had Peyton, Kamara, and Emmitt Smith here it wouldn't help with the OL we have now? Don't think Trevor, Tee, and Amari would make a difference.

 

[SmokyRiverDog]

What kind of crap is this???

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Tee and Amari spread wide with their speed would keep defenses from cheating a DB. Probably get the QB an extra second or two. I saw a lot of plays this year where it looked like we were one step's difference between an explosive play and a busted play.

 

[FLVOL_79]

So weird to see a Pro style QB who can scramble and run................

 

[RavinDave]

Yeah lets just forget about the guy who intentionally sabotaged this football program.

I don't know about "intentionally".

I think it was more a case of the Peter Principle.

He was in over his head and by 2017 the program was just in free fall.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I don't know about "intentionally".

I think it was more a case of the Peter Principle.

He was in over his head and by 2017 the program was just in free fall.

I will give my reasoning for saying intentionally. We know Butch wanted to leave after 2016. He tested the waters but nobody wanted him. So he just slumped back to Knoxville and didnt care. You could tell from game 1 that Butch had packed it in. Of course it should have never gotten that far. Butch should have been fired after the South Carolina game in 2016.

 

[iluvsmesumdooley]

Yeah. He really sucks, huh?
Wow.

I detect sarcasm, and I don't know why. It is common sense to know that Botch Jones is a third-rate clown.

 

[iluvsmesumdooley]

My venom is aimed at a couple of layers higher. A program of UT's stature can't be this impotent, this long, without systemic dysfunction. Where's the accountability??

Correct. It's like they had to try to be this incompetent.

 

[State of the Vols]

Nearly half their best players should have been Vols. We really BJ'd recruiting the last few years.

Why? We regularly poach guys from Georgia, etc. - do those kids somehow belong to UGa, Tech or whatever? Give me a break and quit whining. Cemson has been more successful than the Vols were at any point in modern football, so I don't understand your attitude. Got news for you, dude - success must be earned.

 

[RavinDave]

I will give my reasoning for saying intentionally. We know Butch wanted to leave after 2016. He tested the waters but nobody wanted him. So he just slumped back to Knoxville and didnt care. You could tell from game 1 that Butch had packed it in. Of course it should have never gotten that far. Butch should have been fired after the South Carolina game in 2016.

I hear you, and can't disagree except I see it as more a case of apathy than actual sabotage.

 

[Zues1]

I do not believe a word of Dabo's spiel concerning Dexter Lawrence's positive Osterine test.

Never heard of Osterine until this week
Is it similar to HGH ?

 

[Brave Volunteer]

As possibly the worlds biggest Notre Dame hater, I'm actually kind of enjoying this. They are proving once again to be the frauds they are.

 

[GetEmVols]

My son gets so tired of hearing me say that Lawrence, Higgins, and Rogers are all wearing the wrong shade of orange.

Everyone’s kids are switching to Clemson. Not sure why.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

As possibly the worlds biggest Notre Dame hater, I'm actually kind of enjoying this. They are proving once again to be the frauds they are.

How exactly are they frauds by getting dominated by one of the best teams in the country?

 

[Chad F]

Watching a trash team coached by an idiot (South Carolina) play in a bowl after we choked away a “W” against them is frustrating, too. Of course, seeing Muschamp get shutout is a small comfort, I suppose. HA!

 

[bag12day]

How exactly are they frauds by getting dominated by one of the best teams in the country?

I know they wouldn't be the three spot but do you think that Georgia would score 3 points in this game.
ND is UCF with more national clout everytime they get on the national stage recently they crap the bed.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Another Alabama vs Clemson game coming up for the NC.
Are we gonna be pulling for Clemson Orange in that game as well?

 

[VOLnMiami]

Bama Dave Hart hired Butch. Enough said. But Hart is also the man who got rid of the Lady Vols logo. Moves like this hiring is the reason we are in the bad shape we are in. Least now we got things under control with Fulmer. We got the right football coach. Just have to give him time. Look at Saban when he first got to Bama. Their fans wanted him fired the first couple years. Until he got HIS recruits in there.

No they didn't...He had them in the SEC title game undefeated his 2nd season there.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Another Alabama vs Clemson game coming up for the NC.
Are we gonna be pulling for Clemson Orange in that game as well?

Dont sleep on OU