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Wise-Vol

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absolutely cannot play poorly because the refs are not going to let UT win a game. We have to dominate to win.

Kentucky or Duke or most any other top 15 team will have the refs in their hip pocket in games like this. Unbelievably, we have the opposite effect. Charlotte actually has the refs in their hip pocket when they play us, just like most every team that get the fortune of having Cahill or Sirmons or Green call games involving UT.

We played like crap. We cannot do that when the refs will let guys tackle us without calling fouls.

Goins cannot miss free throws because two possessions before the refs are going to let Charlotte foul him mutliple times without calling it (before we are in the bonus). We cannot jack three after three after three because when the game comes down to it, the refs are going to let our opponent get away with murder.

Hugh Hewitt once wrote a book "If it isn't close, they can't cheat".

We simply cannot leave anything close. This team will get blown out at KY and Vandy because they are a helluva lot better than Charlotte and the refs will be the same, if not worse.

Time also to shorten the rotation. McBee and Pearl have got to get fewer minutes. Maymon should be getting major minutes at PF and Harris needs to get some minutes at SF with Pearl sitting. McBee is awful. He hits a 3 rarely and is a defensive liability.

The Pitt and Nova wins now mean nothing. We just gave the benefit of those back by losing to a terrible Charlotte team.
 
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This isn't on the refs.

I am tired of hearing that excuse.
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If we make 1 more 3 ball or Mel make 2 free throws there at the end the refs wouldn't have mattered BRO-SEPH!!!
 
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Wise-Vol said:
absolutely cannot play poorly because the refs are not going to let UT win a game. We have to dominate to win.

Kentucky or Duke or most any other top 15 team will have the refs in their hip pocket in games like this. Unbelievably, we have the opposite effect. Charlotte actually has the refs in their hip pocket when they play us, just like most every team that get the fortune of having Cahill or Sirmons or Green call games involving UT.
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Garbage. When you fail to put up 50 on a team like Charlotte, using the "ref" excuse should be the last on the list. There are multiple reasons UT lost that game, none of which are attributed to the whistle.
 
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Wise-Vol said:
absolutely cannot play poorly because the refs are not going to let UT win a game.
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I did not see the game tonight, so I can't speak to that specifically. I will say that it is a fact of college basketball--hell, of sports in general--that all but a few of the darling powerhouse programs aren't going to get any calls on the road. Top notch teams learn to overcome that.

Tennessee doesn't get screwed any more than anybody else.
 
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I agree with the OP about the refs. It's on UT for letting the game be close, but if they call a foul when their player is sitting on Goins, the game is probably over right there. I also couldn't believe the play in the middle of the second half when their guard took three steps without dribbling. He was outside the three-point line on the wing and guarded by one our bigs. He had nowhere to go, so he just started travelling, and the refs ignored it. On Charlotte's 6th and 7th fouls, they had to foul twice to draw a whistle. It's like they wanted to give them a chance to steal it before calling the foul. The lost seconds ended up costing us. The defensive breakdown on the final play was on UT. Like the OP said though, UK and Duke get every close call down the stretch in a game like that, regardless of what arena they are in. If we are not in Knoxville, we are not going to get any call.

The CBS sign in the student section was clever. I can't remember what the C stood for. It was something like, "BBQ at Bruce's on Saturday." We'll see if any of our SEC rivals do as well. I wish I could remember the C.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Garbage. When you fail to put up 50 on a team like Charlotte, using the "ref" excuse should be the last on the list. There are multiple reasons UT lost that game, none of which are attributed to the whistle.
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There are indeed multiple reasons UT lost that had nothing to do with the refs, but the officiating was garbage. It wasn't anywhere near the travesty that was the SEC Tournament final that the officials handed to UK on a platter last year. It wasn't anything anything close to the theft of that title, in which the refs kept giving UK chances to win until they finally pulled it off. But, they weren't officiating both ends with the same degree of objectivity tonight.
 
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ukvols said:
There are indeed multiple reasons UT lost that had nothing to do with the refs, but the officiating was garbage. It wasn't anywhere near the travesty that was the SEC Tournament final that the officials handed to UK on a platter last year. It wasn't anything anything close to the theft of that title, in which the refs kept giving UK chances to win until they finally pulled it off. But, they weren't officiating both ends with the same degree of objectivity tonight.
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Good lord.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Garbage. When you fail to put up 50 on a team like Charlotte, using the "ref" excuse should be the last on the list. There are multiple reasons UT lost that game, none of which are attributed to the whistle.
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I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Don't raise your hands or the point may cut a finger off flying over your head.
 
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Wise-Vol said:
I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. Don't raise your hands or the point may cut a finger off flying over your head.
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My comprehension is fine. You're full of shat, which isn't hard to detect no matter what the comprehension level.
 
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is it just me or does it seem like this happens every year. we beat a couple of good teams then just show no effort and get beat by sucky teams
 
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ukvols said:
There are indeed multiple reasons UT lost that had nothing to do with the refs, but the officiating was garbage. It wasn't anywhere near the travesty that was the SEC Tournament final that the officials handed to UK on a platter last year. It wasn't anything anything close to the theft of that title, in which the refs kept giving UK chances to win until they finally pulled it off. But, they weren't officiating both ends with the same degree of objectivity tonight.
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That was a semi-final iirc.
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Good lord.
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Really? That MSU-UK game was the most one-sided piece of crap officiating I have ever seen. Watch the tape.

You're with one of a small, select handful of programs that basically has its own set of officials almost everywhere they go, and you're in a UT thread acting like we should be ashamed for questioning the calls. Yeah, we should have dominated the game. I know that.

If UK is playing in any SEC arena besides Memorial, TBA, and the O'Dome, they will be given every chance to win by the zebras. If they're in one of those three places, it'll get called right down the middle.

Kentucky probably would have picked up a whistle that UT didn't get tonight and won. It's like the NBA, where the stars get more calls to go their way. Only in college, it's the programs who lead in all-time wins.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
That was a semi-final iirc.
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I'm not talking about the semifinal that they crushed us in. I'm talking about the championship game, in which UK's miracle comeback to force OT was only possible after multiple atrocious calls. There is a probably a postgame thread that lists them.
 
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This loss was not on the refs. The refs did not cost us the game and were not a factor in us losing the game.
 
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ukvols said:
Really? That MSU-UK game was the most one-sided piece of crap officiating I have ever seen. Watch the tape.

You're with one of a small, select handful of programs that basically has its own set of officials almost everywhere they go, and you're in a UT thread acting like we should be ashamed for questioning the calls. Yeah, we should have dominated the game. I know that.

If UK is playing in any SEC arena besides Memorial, TBA, and the O'Dome, they will be given every chance to win by the zebras. If they're in one of those three places, it'll get called right down the middle.

Kentucky probably would have picked up a whistle that UT didn't get tonight and won. It's like the NBA, where the stars get more calls to go their way. Only in college, it's the programs who lead in all-time wins.
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I'm not disputing that fact at all. Cottons answer was spot on IMO, that it does happen and its a fact of life in college basketball. What I'm eluding to is how everyone is so quick to jump on that train and use it as an excuse to throw mud, when UT played utterly horrific basketball. A 3 foul and 6 free-throw disparity between teams is hardly a stat that justifies all the crying and whining about officials. It was bad basketball, accept it and move on.
 
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I didn't watch the game, and I don't want to. Not gonna do it. Can't do it. Can't win with them.
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Didn't see the game but whining about refs all the time makes the program look weak and sad.
 
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ukvols said:
There are indeed multiple reasons UT lost that had nothing to do with the refs, but the officiating was garbage. It wasn't anywhere near the travesty that was the SEC Tournament final that the officials handed to UK on a platter last year. It wasn't anything anything close to the theft of that title, in which the refs kept giving UK chances to win until they finally pulled it off. But, they weren't officiating both ends with the same degree of objectivity tonight.
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Agree..+ infinity!
 
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