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VolunteerHillbilly

VolunteerHillbilly

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Seeing as how no one on this year's squad knows how to catch a football it seems like it might have been a good idea to go after a few blue chip wide outs and atheletes this year. Our number one prospect for that position has scratched us from his list. http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=495154

Anyone notice what he says he is basing his decision on other than comfort level? He wants to go to a place where he can win a national championship. Obviously, he does not think he can reach that goal at UT. I really do not understand this.
 
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Well there is always Chris Lofton and Jujuan Smith. Probably better duo than what they got now!
 
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I thought we still had some kind of shot at Anthony Jones, Duke Calhoun and Quintin Hancock. Also, I thought Andrey Baskin from New Jersey and Chris Mitchell still have us on their radar, but barely.
 
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(rockytop muskrat @ Dec 29 said:
He's too small. I don't think Tennessee has a WR under 6'2
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No way he is too small. Height is not a requirement to be a successful WR. Run goods routes and catch the ball are two very underrated attributes.
 
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(therickbol @ Dec 29 said:
No way he is too small. Height is not a requirement to be a successful WR. Run goods routes and catch the ball are two very unde attributes.
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Agreed. Height is a nice plus, but it doesn't matter if a WR has trouble catching the ball which was quite evident this past season.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 29 said:
Sure, but height + speed + hands is always better than speed+hands. You need all three to be great.
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Derrick Mason-5-10, Steve Smith-5-9, Santana Moss-5-10, Deion Branch-5-9, Laveranues Coles-5-11, Joey Galloway-5-11, Terry Glenn-5-11. Need I continue? Of course height is an advantage but it is not always necesary to be a very good WR.
 
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(holdemvol @ Dec 29 said:
Derrick Mason-5-10, Steve Smith-5-9, Santana Moss-5-10, Deion Branch-5-9, Laveranues Coles-5-11, Joey Galloway-5-11, Terry Glenn-5-11. Need I continue? Of course height is an advantage but it is not always necesary to be a very good WR.
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Perhaps I should have explained what I mean by "great." These guys are great. Most of the people you mentioned are good, but not great. There are three guys under six feet on these lists and I am not saying it is impossible, just as a rule height+hands+speed are preferable. Also, even though he on the downside of his career from the looks of it Randy Moss (6-4) is probably the best active receiver over the length of his career IMO.

Top 10 All Time for Receptions:
1. Jerry Rice 6-2
2. Cris Carter 6-3
3. Tim Brown 6-0
4. Andre Reed 6-2
5. Art Monk 6-3
6. Irving Fryar 6-0
7. Marvin Harrison 6-0
8. Larry Centers 6-0
9. Steve Largent 5-11
10. Shannon Sharpe 6-2

Top 10 All Time for Receiving Yards
1. Jerry Rice 6-2
2. Tim Brown 6-0
3. James Lofton 6-3
4. Cris Carter 6-3
5. Henry Ellard 5-11
6. Andre Reed 6-2
7. Steve Largent 5-11
8. Irving Fryar 6-0
9. Art Monk 6-3
10. Charlie Joiner 5-11

NOTE: Does not include 2005 season stats.
 
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Of course it is preferable, but I don't think you have to be 6'+ to be a very good receiver in the SEC. UT does not have to have Jerry Rice or Tim Brown to win in this league. I guess my point was that while it is nice you don't have to be a freak of nature to be a top flight SEC receiver and my post was more a point of reference for muskrat who said the recruit was too small. You would have to be insane not to prefer a receiver that is taller, but to say a kid is too small because he is under 6 feet is ridiculous.
 
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Yes. At the college level I think you are right. One thing that concerns me for the future though is looking at the height on the receivers that UF has commitments from this year. We are going to need some DBs with really long arms.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 29 said:
Yes. At the college level I think you are right. One thing that concerns me for the future though is looking at the height on the receivers that UF has commitments from this year. We are going to need some DBs with really long arms.
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Or insane verticals.
 
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(VolunteerHillbilly @ Dec 29 said:
Perhaps I should have explained what I mean by "great." These guys are great. Most of the people you mentioned are good, but not great. There are three guys under six feet on these lists and I am not saying it is impossible, just as a rule height+hands+speed are preferable. Also, even though he on the downside of his career from the looks of it Randy Moss (6-4) is probably the best active receiver over the length of his career IMO.

Top 10 All Time for Receptions:
1. Jerry Rice 6-2
2. Cris Carter 6-3
3. Tim Brown 6-0
4. Andre Reed 6-2
5. Art Monk 6-3
6. Irving Fryar 6-0
7. Marvin Harrison 6-0
8. Larry Centers 6-0
9. Steve Largent 5-11
10. Shannon Sharpe 6-2

Top 10 All Time for Receiving Yards
1. Jerry Rice 6-2
2. Tim Brown 6-0
3. James Lofton 6-3
4. Cris Carter 6-3
5. Henry Ellard 5-11
6. Andre Reed 6-2
7. Steve Largent 5-11
8. Irving Fryar 6-0
9. Art Monk 6-3
10. Charlie Joiner 5-11

NOTE: Does not include 2005 season stats.
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Ummm....5 out of 10 of those guys are 6-ft. or less. That is not "tall." That didn't make your point at all. lol
 
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I think we will shake out just fine. I too am still itching ( lack of better word) for that WR coach to be named, i dont feel like it's a determining factor in most cases.

We seen flashes of Briscoe and Rogers. Theres still Swain, Meachem, Smith, Taylor and Shelley. I look for CDC to get us back into checking down w/ a match up and going to a big nasty TE.

This day and age, an 5'10 WR with ability can make a 6'2 DB look like toast and vise versa.
 
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(therickbol @ Dec 29 said:
Ummm....5 out of 10 of those guys are 6-ft. or less. That is not "tall." That didn't make your point at all. lol
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I am using 6' as the differing mark between tall and not tall. It is arbitrary but pretty well accepted.
 
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(IBleedOrange24/7 @ Dec 30 said:
I think we will shake out just fine. I too am still itching ( lack of better word) for that WR coach to be named, i dont feel like it's a determining factor in most cases.

We seen flashes of Briscoe and Rogers. Theres still Swain, Meachem, Smith, Taylor and Shelley. I look for CDC to get us back into checking down w/ a match up and going to a big nasty TE.

This day and age, an 5'10 WR with ability can make a 6'2 DB look like toast and vise versa.
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As of end of season, we have zero threats to go long, outrun somebody and catch the friggin' ball. Nasty tight ends are nice :crazy: but until we get at least one receiver who can stretch the field, then a QB who actually can hit him, we're screwed. :focus:
 
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(wilburnVol @ Dec 30 said:
Noticing your avatar, 6" would be a f*****g giant to you. :angel:
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heh heh, I am over 6' myself but I do think that is sort of a universal dividing line.
 
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I would say that if you ask college coaches to draw a dividing line where they consider a WR to be tall they would list somewhere in the neighborhood of 6'2. Dude, over 90% of the players on the roster (not including kickers) are over 6'0. So, you are saying 90% of the players on our team would be considered tall if they played WR?
 
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I agree that the short/tall line for a college WR would be more in the 6'2 to 6'3 range, but let me pose a more important question. How many of you out there would have taken a 4'10 receiver who could catch the ball this year? Run good routes, catch the ball and the ability to make something happen...that's what makes great receivers. Jerry Rice's height had nothing to do with his greatness. His work ethic and attention to detail made him the greatest ever. That's what the Knoxville boys lacked this year. Rice would have been the greatest ever at 5'10, too. By the way, Rice wasn't exceptionally fast either.
 
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