We must use our size advantage

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Oregon may be faster but we are bigger. We must use our size advantage and pound the rock!
Size comparison: Tennessee vs. Oregon

Offense (11 player avg. height/weight)

Tennessee – 6’3 & 257.8 per

Oregon – 6’1 ½ & 242.5 per

Defense (11 player avg. height/weight)

Tennessee – 6’2 ½ & 236.9 per

Oregon – 6’2 & 233.7 per

Tennessee Offense Line/Tight End vs. Oregon Defensive Line

Tennessee – 6’4 ½ & 301.5 per

Oregon – 6’5 & 279.3 per

Tennessee Defensive Line vs. Oregon Offense Line/Tight End

Tennessee – 6’5 & 288.3 per

Oregon – 6’3 ½ & 286 per
 
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I was waiting to see a comparison. One Oregon poster said apart from McCullers, tgeir D was bigger.
 
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Sheik Yerbouti said:
Isn't it the same as our average?

I think I read that they have a couple of 6'7" DE. If they get their hands up, that might be hard to throw over/around.
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According to his post it is. Just found that odd when I first read it for some reason... it's Friday and way to early.
 
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It won't work. As an Oregon fan the minute I see a team line up and start pounding the ball between the tackles I know its over. They've already lost.
This isn't a cocky or arrogant statement, but its been tried over and over and over again. It NEVER works. If you watch the Stanford game that's not what beat us. Their quarterback was surprisingly mobile and kept escaping contain and running for 1st downs. Their creativity and outstanding defense is what beat us.

Edit: The other thing I look for is teams that kick the field goal in the red zone. The minute a team on 4th and 1 or 2 concedes the series and kicks the field goal, its over. That will never work either.
 
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Jave said:
It won't work. As an Oregon fan the minute I see a team line up and start pounding the ball between the tackles I know its over. They've already lost.
This isn't a cocky or arrogant statement, but its been tried over and over and over again. It NEVER works. If you watch the Stanford game that's not what beat us. Their quarterback was surprisingly mobile and kept escaping contain and running for 1st downs. Their creativity and outstanding defense is what beat us.

Edit: The other thing I look for is teams that kick the field goal in the red zone. The minute a team on 4th and 1 or 2 concedes the series and kicks the field goal, its over. That will never work either.
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It NEVER works? What about the 2011 National Championship game??? Yes, it was alot of Cam Newton and defense, but they also put up 250 yards on the ground against you. That is SEC ball, and I know Tennessee is not an elite team and will probably get beat.
 
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Jave said:
It won't work. As an Oregon fan the minute I see a team line up and start pounding the ball between the tackles I know its over. They've already lost.
This isn't a cocky or arrogant statement, but its been tried over and over and over again. It NEVER works. If you watch the Stanford game that's not what beat us. Their quarterback was surprisingly mobile and kept escaping contain and running for 1st downs. Their creativity and outstanding defense is what beat us.

Edit: The other thing I look for is teams that kick the field goal in the red zone. The minute a team on 4th and 1 or 2 concedes the series and kicks the field goal, its over. That will never work either.
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So.. if you played Alabama they would lose?
 
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Jave said:
It won't work. As an Oregon fan the minute I see a team line up and start pounding the ball between the tackles I know its over. They've already lost.
This isn't a cocky or arrogant statement, but its been tried over and over and over again. It NEVER works. If you watch the Stanford game that's not what beat us. Their quarterback was surprisingly mobile and kept escaping contain and running for 1st downs. Their creativity and outstanding defense is what beat us.

Edit: The other thing I look for is teams that kick the field goal in the red zone. The minute a team on 4th and 1 or 2 concedes the series and kicks the field goal, its over. That will never work either.
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If you don't think Stanford's run game was a key factor, you're delusional.
 
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Jave said:
It won't work. As an Oregon fan the minute I see a team line up and start pounding the ball between the tackles I know its over. They've already lost.
This isn't a cocky or arrogant statement, but its been tried over and over and over again. It NEVER works. If you watch the Stanford game that's not what beat us. Their quarterback was surprisingly mobile and kept escaping contain and running for 1st downs. Their creativity and outstanding defense is what beat us.

Edit: The other thing I look for is teams that kick the field goal in the red zone. The minute a team on 4th and 1 or 2 concedes the series and kicks the field goal, its over. That will never work either.
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This match up has very little to do with what offensive scheme plays against OU .. its all about the Defense stopping the big plays and being composed in the face of the tempo the ducks run the offense.
 
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The Stanford game proved Oregon relies entirely on the big play. If you take that away, they can't score. A good D like Stanford can do that. Not so much UT.
 
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You guys are taking this the wrong way. Lets put it this way.

As a fan of Tennessee, if you watch teams try to run a specific offense 50 times in four years, and 49 of those times your teams wins, and wins big, wouldn't you be skeptical when you hear that's exactly what the game plan is Saturday? Wouldn't you roll your eyes and go, "ohh big shock, yet ANOTHER team is going to try this gameplan". Regardless, offense doesn't beat Oregon, defense does. If your team has disciplined linebackers and excellent lineman, then you will be in the game.

This is just my opinion as a fan watching years and years of Oregon football. If the gameplan is to line up and run between the tackles and try to have 10 minute drives....good luck.
 
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We need to keep their offense off the field, contain the edge, get a few turnovers. A few pounds here and there won't matter unless we've kept their defense on the field a while..
 
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LotteryPick said:
The Stanford game proved Oregon relies entirely on the big play. If you take that away, they can't score. A good D like Stanford can do that. Not so much UT.
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It's a new year.. Let it happen before you start dogging them.. If UT can contain the edge, they can at least make Oregon work harder for scores..Tennessee has to play smart, turn the ball over and they get boat raced out of there..
 
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Jave said:
It won't work. As an Oregon fan the minute I see a team line up and start pounding the ball between the tackles I know its over. They've already lost.
This isn't a cocky or arrogant statement, but its been tried over and over and over again. It NEVER works. If you watch the Stanford game that's not what beat us. Their quarterback was surprisingly mobile and kept escaping contain and running for 1st downs. Their creativity and outstanding defense is what beat us.

Edit: The other thing I look for is teams that kick the field goal in the red zone. The minute a team on 4th and 1 or 2 concedes the series and kicks the field goal, its over. That will never work either.
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It would be interesting to see a breakdown of the OL/RB talent that Oregon consistently plays against. Your "a team" comment speaks most notably to the teams that you normally play. Your "never" comment negates the SEC teams you played that beat you.

IF a team with OL/RB talent can outman you and run effectively between the tackles, they will build long drives. If they can build long drives, they eat clock. If they eat clock, your vaunted offense is on the sidelines and your defense is getting tired.

It's football 101.

Your statements, combined with other, recent Oregon fans crowing the fact that Rregon's defense can stack the box to stop the run without weakening their passing D... It speaks to an overconfidence in schemes and a lack of overall football 101 knowledge outside of Oregon dynasty football.

SMH...
 
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Jave said:
You guys are taking this the wrong way. Lets put it this way.

As a fan of Tennessee, if you watch teams try to run a specific offense 50 times in four years, and 49 of those times your teams wins, and wins big, wouldn't you be skeptical when you hear that's exactly what the game plan is Saturday? Wouldn't you roll your eyes and go, "ohh big shock, yet ANOTHER team is going to try this gameplan". Regardless, offense doesn't beat Oregon, defense does. If your team has disciplined linebackers and excellent lineman, then you will be in the game.

This is just my opinion as a fan watching years and years of Oregon football. If the gameplan is to line up and run between the tackles and try to have 10 minute drives....good luck.
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That offense has to be stopped or at least slowed WAY down. If we don't it is going to be a long afternoon.
 
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Jave said:
You guys are taking this the wrong way. Lets put it this way.

As a fan of Tennessee, if you watch teams try to run a specific offense 50 times in four years, and 49 of those times your teams wins, and wins big, wouldn't you be skeptical when you hear that's exactly what the game plan is Saturday? Wouldn't you roll your eyes and go, "ohh big shock, yet ANOTHER team is going to try this gameplan". Regardless, offense doesn't beat Oregon, defense does. If your team has disciplined linebackers and excellent lineman, then you will be in the game.

This is just my opinion as a fan watching years and years of Oregon football. If the gameplan is to line up and run between the tackles and try to have 10 minute drives....good luck.
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As a Tennessee fan, we play a crap-load of good teams, so we don't get to out-talent 49 of 50 games. As an Oregon fan...

Er... Not so much.

And edit: If you can run between the tackles and score while eating up the clock, Oregon's offense doesn't win games-- they sit on the sidelines getting cold and stiff.
 
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Jave said:
It won't work. As an Oregon fan the minute I see a team line up and start pounding the ball between the tackles I know its over. They've already lost.
This isn't a cocky or arrogant statement, but its been tried over and over and over again. It NEVER works. If you watch the Stanford game that's not what beat us. Their quarterback was surprisingly mobile and kept escaping contain and running for 1st downs. Their creativity and outstanding defense is what beat us.

Edit: The other thing I look for is teams that kick the field goal in the red zone. The minute a team on 4th and 1 or 2 concedes the series and kicks the field goal, its over. That will never work either.
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Ore has a great program and ought to have been in the ncg last year. Investigative journalists, if they looked, will probably find that Golson was academically ineligible for nd.

But no, Oregon would not have forced mccarron to run.
 
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Jave said:
You guys are taking this the wrong way. Lets put it this way.

As a fan of Tennessee, if you watch teams try to run a specific offense 50 times in four years, and 49 of those times your teams wins, and wins big, wouldn't you be skeptical when you hear that's exactly what the game plan is Saturday? Wouldn't you roll your eyes and go, "ohh big shock, yet ANOTHER team is going to try this gameplan". Regardless, offense doesn't beat Oregon, defense does. If your team has disciplined linebackers and excellent lineman, then you will be in the game.

This is just my opinion as a fan watching years and years of Oregon football. If the gameplan is to line up and run between the tackles and try to have 10 minute drives....good luck.
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That's because 49 of the last 50 have been Pac 10/12 teams. Running between the tackles is not their strength. That is not to say that we will be able to do it because we are simply not a great team right now. It has been a tough 3 years.

If we run efficiently, we sustain drives. If we sustain drives, we keep your offense off the field. If our defense can play well, then it could be a good game. It's common sense.
 
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The key's are defense and clock management. the defense must know their assignments and remain disciplined for 4 quarters. Offensively, west must control the time of possession with 10-15 play drives and keep the Duck's offense on the sideline. I think UT will scheme a balanced attack. We will have to run the ball to control the clock, but don't think for a second we are not going to throw the ball. We are "WIDE RECIEVER U"!
 
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All that size won't mean chit if it isn't in a position to make the play. Discipline football, gap control on the line, good angles, avoid over pursuit. Better to give them 10 on a play than give them a TD. On the discipline side I think CBJ has us covered I'm just hoping the players remember it in the heat of battle when we get down by 2 TD's. The more plays OR has to make to make a TD the more opportunities they have to make a mistake and either stall out or turn it over.
 
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