We want Joshua

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Freak said:
I figured it was obvious. ESPN is the big money behind the whole operation. It was ESPN who arranged for Dooley to work for the Cowboys. It's pretty evident Dooley wasn't qualified for that job without ESPN's involvement.

And it's only going to get worse. Kiffin is in Bristol right now finalizing the details to become the lead college football analyst at ESPN. It finally gave them a reason to get rid of Corso, so it's a win for everyone. From what I was told, once Kiffin starts his new position, Tennessee highlights will be prohibited from SportsCenter. Plus, they found some hidden clause in the ESPN contract with the SEC that allows them to black out our games across the country; except for Alaska and Hawaii. Somehow they were exempt from the loophole for reasons I don't understand.

Guys this is bad. Real bad.
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Have you hurd that grudens land is being used as a secret meeting spot or could it be a smokescreen by any chance freak.
 
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DD4ME said:
Top five? No way. If what you are saying is accurate then you should instead say that he will be our starter next year because if he were a top 5 QB that's what he'd be.
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Just an honest opinion... I think he WILL be the starter next year as long as he keeps improving. If he starts backsliding for some reason then one of the others could give him a real run. But the experience he's getting right now is critical FOR HIM. He is far enough along to take that experience and grow from it. The reason Jones isn't playing the others is that they're not that far along.

And you guys are STILL underestimating Worley's potential.

Chaney proved to be a pretty decent OC and he certainly knows QB's. He liked Worley... ALOT. He liked him particularly because he was accurate. Unless something else weird has happened to him... that's still in him. His arm strength is more than sufficient. He's actually looked pretty decent on his few runs and HAS been effective.

The real unknown with him is between his ears. Can he play with confidence? Can he make good reads? He has the physical talent to be good. He has suffered from a lack of self assurance and lack of confidence in his receivers. He appears to be coming out of that. He's made mistakes but at least they weren't mistakes of hesitation. Action mistakes are correctable. If getting Worley out of his bubble turns out to be the value of Jones' UF decision... then it might have been worth it.
 
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Interesting comment by Worley post-USA game that I don't know if any of you noticed. I didn't see it in print... just heard it in response to a question. The question must have been about whether they were finished installing the O or were continuing to install. He seemed to perk up and said "Oh yeah. We're installing every week".

That is another thing that makes me feel better going forward.

Jones really is building "brick by brick" when it comes to installing the O. He seems to be doggedly insisting they master one level before moving on to the next.
 
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sjt18 said:
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't that guy a 4th year Junior with two years learning the current system?
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What does the system have to do with what he did to us with his feet? Nothing.

Also, he had played 3 DOWNS prior to the game.

Let that sink in. Even when Florida was up by 40, the kid never once even broke a sweat and still looked better than Worley will in his time at UT.

Muschamp repeatedly said the kid has no shot of every playing..until a transfer (which will happen here following this season) and an injury (which already happened once this year).

So don't tell me Dobbs/Fergs shouldn't be in there. The season is a wrap. Get them in the big games now,it's not as if we have much of a shot either way.

We are always talking about "re-building a program" and you can't always try to "win now" and "re-build" at the same time. S***, imagine if Johnny Football didn't see a snap last year because he was a "freshman".
 
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#108
I disagree that the season is a wrap. In my mind, playing for next year is not even a consideration until the team is eliminated from bowl contention. But that's just me.
 
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sjt18 said:
Interesting comment by Worley post-USA game that I don't know if any of you noticed. I didn't see it in print... just heard it in response to a question. The question must have been about whether they were finished installing the O or were continuing to install. He seemed to perk up and said "Oh yeah. We're installing every week".

That is another thing that makes me feel better going forward.

Jones really is building "brick by brick" when it comes to installing the O. He seems to be doggedly insisting they master one level before moving on to the next.
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I hope nobody here thought we fully installed our playbooks. I bet were around the 50-60% mark to the goal on play knowledge on offense. Our D is closer to 90%. It's about playing together for them. Every 1st year coach has to go through this unfortunately.
 
#110
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Burger said:
I hope nobody here thought we fully installed our playbooks. I bet were around the 50-60% mark to the goal on play knowledge on offense. Our D is closer to 90%. It's about playing together for them. Every 1st year coach has to go through this unfortunately.
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73% of stats are made up 81% of the time
 
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Freak said:
I disagree that the season is a wrap. In my mind, playing for next year is not even a consideration until the team is eliminated from bowl contention. But that's just me.
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This is me.
As futile as it may seem, hope springs eternal.
 
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Orange Blazer said:
Taking turns? This isn't flag football.
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It sounds a little ridiculous, but then again it's been done before. I was just responding to some poster on here that stated a pile of poppycock about Ferguson being ahead of Dobbs. His reasoning was that he knew of reports that said so (Earth to fellow posters. Talking heads on the radio know less about who is ahead in the QB battle than you do, and you don't know nothing.) His other reasoning was Dobbs didn't travel to Fla. If this was a definitive act as to which QB was ahead, then it would be reflective in the depth chart (the poster I talked with poo-pooed the depth chart; said it didn't count or something.) Earth to fellow posters--it usually does count when you're talking third and fourth string. Start time decisions can sometimes shuffle between one and two. Sorry if I tickled your funnybone with the take turns.
 
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volsfansince4387 said:
What does the system have to do with what he did to us with his feet? Nothing.

Also, he had played 3 DOWNS prior to the game.

Let that sink in. Even when Florida was up by 40, the kid never once even broke a sweat and still looked better than Worley will in his time at UT.

Muschamp repeatedly said the kid has no shot of every playing..until a transfer (which will happen here following this season) and an injury (which already happened once this year).

So don't tell me Dobbs/Fergs shouldn't be in there. The season is a wrap. Get them in the big games now,it's not as if we have much of a shot either way.

We are always talking about "re-building a program" and you can't always try to "win now" and "re-build" at the same time. S***, imagine if Johnny Football didn't see a snap last year because he was a "freshman".
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You wrote this non-sense and completely evaded the point which is undeniable. Regardless of anything else, that QB had 4 years of development at UF and two years learning the offense he ran. And yes... that makes a HUGE difference. You can't be that ignorant.

Dobbs/Ferguson should not be in there until they are ready to succeed. Period.

Manziel was a RED-SHIRT freshman last year. IOW's, someone RIGHTLY determined that he was NOT ready even though he was incredible a year later. Is this line of reasoning really beyond your understanding or are you just being intentionally evasive to avoid admitting you were wrong?
 
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Burger said:
I hope nobody here thought we fully installed our playbooks. I bet were around the 50-60% mark to the goal on play knowledge on offense. Our D is closer to 90%. It's about playing together for them. Every 1st year coach has to go through this unfortunately.
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No... it is very, very apparent that MANY here think that Worley and the O are maxed out and can get no better.
 
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trampas2bad said:
It sounds a little ridiculous, but then again it's been done before. I was just responding to some poster on here that stated a pile of poppycock about Ferguson being ahead of Dobbs. His reasoning was that he knew of reports that said so (Earth to fellow posters. Talking heads on the radio know less about who is ahead in the QB battle than you do, and you don't know nothing.) His other reasoning was Dobbs didn't travel to Fla. If this was a definitive act as to which QB was ahead, then it would be reflective in the depth chart (the poster I talked with poo-pooed the depth chart; said it didn't count or something.) Earth to fellow posters--it usually does count when you're talking third and fourth string. Start time decisions can sometimes shuffle between one and two. Sorry if I tickled your funnybone with the take turns.
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Media reports about Ferguson being ahead of Dobbs and him not making the trip to Florida don't mean anything? Instead we should rely on your theory that Dobbs may travel to Alabama while Ferguson stays home, because they are swapping? And your evidence of this is what?

Are you reading what you are posting? You're making the argument that no one knows anything, while trying to insist that you do.

And for depth charts, you respond with they are definitive because "it usually does count" and "start time decisions can shuffle"? I think you might need to lookup the definition of the word definitive, because I'm pretty sure you just confirmed my point.
 
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trampas2bad said:
It sounds a little ridiculous, but then again it's been done before. I was just responding to some poster on here that stated a pile of poppycock about Ferguson being ahead of Dobbs. His reasoning was that he knew of reports that said so (Earth to fellow posters. Talking heads on the radio know less about who is ahead in the QB battle than you do, and you don't know nothing.) His other reasoning was Dobbs didn't travel to Fla. If this was a definitive act as to which QB was ahead, then it would be reflective in the depth chart (the poster I talked with poo-pooed the depth chart; said it didn't count or something.) Earth to fellow posters--it usually does count when you're talking third and fourth string. Start time decisions can sometimes shuffle between one and two. Sorry if I tickled your funnybone with the take turns.
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I really don't care which one plays but I saw someone on here quote that Ferguson was taking all the second team reps and that was from Hubbs. I also posted a while back that a former player went to church with me here in town and he just talked about how Ferguson was the real deal.
 
#123
#123
jordan4vols said:
I really don't care which one plays but I saw someone on here quote that Ferguson was taking all the second team reps and that was from Hubbs. I also posted a while back that a former player went to church with me here in town and he just talked about how Ferguson was the real deal.
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Every media report I have heard they say Ferguson is ahead of Dobbs right now but there is no point arguing with that guy he won't buy it.
 
#124
#124
orangepit said:
Please!!!!!!
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When you are not winning football games, the backup quarterback is usually the most popular football player on campus.

I'm thinking Butch and company might know a few things you and the rest of us don't know.
 
#125
#125
Freak said:
Media reports about Ferguson being ahead of Dobbs and him not making the trip to Florida don't mean anything? Instead we should rely on your theory that Dobbs may travel to Alabama while Ferguson stays home, because they are swapping? And your evidence of this is what?

Are you reading what you are posting? You're making the argument that no one knows anything, while trying to insist that you do.

And for depth charts, you respond with they are definitive because "it usually does count" and "start time decisions can shuffle"? I think you might need to lookup the definition of the word definitive, because I'm pretty sure you just confirmed my point.
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Believe it or not. Fantasy's flying through your head or not. If Ferguson was the standout #2 (with Peterman out), he would be listed as such with no ambiguity. He is not. One poster stated on here in reply to my last post that Ferguson was getting the first team snaps. Bully on that. It has also been reported that Dobbs gets the scout team snaps. Does the scout team play against the second string defense? Or do they play against the first stringers that might need to have some idea what's coming at them any upcoming week. If so, consider Dobbs as getting the equal equivalent of a first string education. I'd be real surprised if Butch doesn't look at it like that.
 
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