We will still win the East...

#54
#54
fade route said:
Yeah, we lose some. It's called football....should we just forfeit to spare you the pain? Too hard for you to endure? Who's the 3 year old again?
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Not enjoying something does not equal pain.

Intellectually speaking, it is still you.
 
#55
#55
VolStudent5 said:
After south carloina beating missouri, if we win out, I think we win the East.

We can beat missouri, auburn is overrated, kentucky and vandy is vandy.
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Auburn is over rated but the one thing they have to their advantage is they have excellent coaching....
 
#58
#58
TrueOrange said:
South Carolina has to lose another one as well
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South Carolina would have to lose to Mississippi State next week (their only other SEC game is against Florida and we need Florida to lose two more.

volboy81 said:
We have 3 conference losses.... Mizzou has 1. We'd need all kinds of help
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Missouri would have to lose to us and then either Ole Miss or Texas A&M.

So, it could happen, for what it's worth.
 
#60
#60
LA Vol said:
Classic movie-- Christmas Story-- all the kid wants is the bb gun, so it's a good thing. Just like winning 7 and getting to a bowl, even a crappy one.
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I sure as hell want to win that crappy bowl.
 
#61
#61
I will state right here, right now, there is no way in hell UT wins the SEC East this year. I just hope for 6 wins and a bowl game.
 
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#64
#64
I'm going to sum this whole thing up! Any body tha is saying they ddon't want us to win the east is F'n stupid!! The out come of that would wouldn't matter! U say we would get beat like a drum again? Maybe so but at least we would do what every other team in the east couldn't do and that would be in Atlanta in Dec playing for it at least! To say u don't want to go? Dumbest thing ever! And who ever is saying you " would rather see a bowl game against some body we have a snow balls hell in chance of beating" Idk if u know ne thing about this whole college football thing but I'm assuming if we make it to the sec championship that we have a really good shot at a bowl game! Good grief ppl if we could make it there is no down side what so ever none!!
 
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#65
#65
I'm going to sum this whole thing up! Any body tha is saying they ddon't want us to win the east is F'n stupid!! The out come of that would wouldn't matter! U say we would get beat like a drum again? Maybe so but at least we would do what every other team in the east couldn't do and that would be in Atlanta in Dec playing for it at least! To say u don't want to go? Dumbest thing ever! And who ever is saying you " woamuld rather see a bowl game against some body we have a snow balls hell in chance of beating" Idk if u know ne thing about this whole college football thing but I'm assuming if we make it to the sec championship that we have a really good shot at a bowl game! Good grief ppl if we could make it there is no down side what so ever none!!
 
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#69
#69
I'm there with everybody we don't really have a shot at it but to say no to it if we could is F'n stupid! Idc if it were the Denver Broncos I would still want to make it beats watching it from Knoxville for the players
 
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#70
This scenario was thoroughly examined in a thread started by one of our moderators, zjcvols. He presented the following analysis:

"Let's assume Tennessee loses against Alabama (I know, such a pessimist). Does that mean Tennessee is out of it? Actually, no. If a crazy series of events occur, Tennessee can go to Atlanta. Let's break it down.

What Tennessee would have to do is win out after the Alabama game. That would land them 8-4 (5-3). They would have tiebreakers over South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Missouri, and Kentucky. Florida and Georgia own tiebreakers over UT.

Georgia
Current record:4-3 (3-2)
SEC Wins: vs. South Carolina, vs. LSU, @Tennessee
SEC Losses: vs. Mizzouri, @Vanderbilt
Remaining SEC games: @Florida, @Auburn, vs. Kentucky
Most likely loss: @Auburn
Most likely win: vs. Kentucky
What needs to happen: Georgia needs to lose two SEC games.
Chances this happens: Florida still has a good D, but Georgia still has Aaron Murray. Can Florida score some points and run the ball against a depleted Georgia D? Not sure. I believe Georgia loses to Auburn at the Plains. I have UGA a slight favorite over Florida and Auburn a moderate favorite. I go with 50% they lose to both Florida and Auburn

Florida
Current Record: 4-3 (3-2)
SEC Wins: vs. Tennessee, vs. Kentucky, vs. Arkansas
SEC losses: @ LSU, @Mizzouri
Remaining SEC games: vs. Georgia, vs. Vanderbilt, @ South Carolina
Most likely loss: @South Carolina
Most likely win: vs. Vanderbilt
What needs to happens: Florida needs to lose two SEC games.
Chances this happens: I got Florida as a slight underdog against Georgia, and a heavy underdog @South Carolina. I give Florida a 40% chance against Georgia, and a 70% chance against South Carolina to win. I give them about a 40% chance to beat Georgia and lose to South Carolina. Preferably, Florida needs to beat Georgia, and lose to Vanderbilt and South Carolina. Not likely in my opinion. Overall, about 20% they beat Georgia and lose to Vandy and South Carolina.

South Carolina
Current Record: 5-2 (3-2)
SEC Wins: vs. Vanderbilt, vs. Kentucky, @Arkansas
SEC Losses: @Georgia, @Tennessee
Remaning SEC games: @Missouri, vs. Mississippi State, vs. Florida
Most likely loss: @Missouri
Most likely win: vs. Mississippi State
What needs to happen: South Carolina needs to lose to either Missouri or Mississippi State, but beat Florida.
Chances this happens: This looks good. I think Missouri gets South Carolina, and I think South Carolina gets Florida, especially since Connor Shaw should be back. I give them about a 70% chance to lose to Missouri and beat Florida.

Missouri
Current Record: 7-0 (3-0)
SEC Wins: @Vanderbilt, @Georgia, vs. Florida
SEC Losses: None
Remaining SEC games: vs. South Carolina, vs. Tennessee, @Kentucky, @Ole Miss, @Texas A&M
Most likely loss: @Texas A&M
Most likely SEC win: vs. South Carolina
What needs to happen: Tennessee HAS to beat Missouri, and Missouri preferably needs to lose to Texas A&M and Ole Miss
Chances this happens: This is a tough one to predict. I do not believe Missouri is for real, but they just have to go 2-3 the rest of the way in the SEC if one of those wins is Tennessee. And it would help to beat South Carolina. But I think UT gets Missouri, along with Ole Miss and TAMU beating them. But I also need to be realistic. I'll go 40% chance this happens.

As long as Tennessee beats Vanderbilt and Kentucky, those two can't go to the SEC title game.

I didn't try and add them up. I tried to give percentages on what I think. It's confusing yes. Overall, for all this to happen, along with UT winning the last four games...this is my percentage breakdown of chances to go to Atlanta:

Missouri: 40%
Georgia: 30%
Florida: 20%
Tennessee: 10%" (http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/206473-how-tennessee-can-win-sec-east.html).

As several contributors have noted, whoever emerges from this logjam will simply earn the rights to a severe whipping by Alabama. However, in the unlikely event that this scenario plays out as described above, I dare say that Butch would utilize the totally unexpected benefit of winning a divisional title in his first year at UT to great advantage on the recruiting trail.
 
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#71
Volosaurus rex said:
This scenario was thoroughly examined in a thread started by one of our moderators, zjcvols. He presented the following analysis:

"Let's assume Tennessee loses against Alabama (I know, such a pessimist). Does that mean Tennessee is out of it? Actually, no. If a crazy series of events occur, Tennessee can go to Atlanta. Let's break it down.

What Tennessee would have to do is win out after the Alabama game. That would land them 8-4 (5-3). They would have tiebreakers over South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Missouri, and Kentucky. Florida and Georgia own tiebreakers over UT.

Georgia
Current record:4-3 (3-2)
SEC Wins: vs. South Carolina, vs. LSU, @Tennessee
SEC Losses: vs. Mizzouri, @Vanderbilt
Remaining SEC games: @Florida, @Auburn, vs. Kentucky
Most likely loss: @Auburn
Most likely win: vs. Kentucky
What needs to happen: Georgia needs to lose two SEC games.
Chances this happens: Florida still has a good D, but Georgia still has Aaron Murray. Can Florida score some points and run the ball against a depleted Georgia D? Not sure. I believe Georgia loses to Auburn at the Plains. I have UGA a slight favorite over Florida and Auburn a moderate favorite. I go with 50% they lose to both Florida and Auburn

Florida
Current Record: 4-3 (3-2)
SEC Wins: vs. Tennessee, vs. Kentucky, vs. Arkansas
SEC losses: @ LSU, @Mizzouri
Remaining SEC games: vs. Georgia, vs. Vanderbilt, @ South Carolina
Most likely loss: @South Carolina
Most likely win: vs. Vanderbilt
What needs to happens: Florida needs to lose two SEC games.
Chances this happens: I got Florida as a slight underdog against Georgia, and a heavy underdog @South Carolina. I give Florida a 40% chance against Georgia, and a 70% chance against South Carolina to win. I give them about a 40% chance to beat Georgia and lose to South Carolina. Preferably, Florida needs to beat Georgia, and lose to Vanderbilt and South Carolina. Not likely in my opinion. Overall, about 20% they beat Georgia and lose to Vandy and South Carolina.

South Carolina
Current Record: 5-2 (3-2)
SEC Wins: vs. Vanderbilt, vs. Kentucky, @Arkansas
SEC Losses: @Georgia, @Tennessee
Remaning SEC games: @Missouri, vs. Mississippi State, vs. Florida
Most likely loss: @Missouri
Most likely win: vs. Mississippi State
What needs to happen: South Carolina needs to lose to either Missouri or Mississippi State, but beat Florida.
Chances this happens: This looks good. I think Missouri gets South Carolina, and I think South Carolina gets Florida, especially since Connor Shaw should be back. I give them about a 70% chance to lose to Missouri and beat Florida.

Missouri
Current Record: 7-0 (3-0)
SEC Wins: @Vanderbilt, @Georgia, vs. Florida
SEC Losses: None
Remaining SEC games: vs. South Carolina, vs. Tennessee, @Kentucky, @Ole Miss, @Texas A&M
Most likely loss: @Texas A&M
Most likely SEC win: vs. South Carolina
What needs to happen: Tennessee HAS to beat Missouri, and Missouri preferably needs to lose to Texas A&M and Ole Miss
Chances this happens: This is a tough one to predict. I do not believe Missouri is for real, but they just have to go 2-3 the rest of the way in the SEC if one of those wins is Tennessee. And it would help to beat South Carolina. But I think UT gets Missouri, along with Ole Miss and TAMU beating them. But I also need to be realistic. I'll go 40% chance this happens.

As long as Tennessee beats Vanderbilt and Kentucky, those two can't go to the SEC title game.

I didn't try and add them up. I tried to give percentages on what I think. It's confusing yes. Overall, for all this to happen, along with UT winning the last four games...this is my percentage breakdown of chances to go to Atlanta:

Missouri: 40%
Georgia: 30%
Florida: 20%
Tennessee: 10%" (http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/206473-how-tennessee-can-win-sec-east.html).

As several contributors have noted, whoever emerges from this logjam will simply earn the rights to a severe whipping by Alabama. However, in the unlikely event that this scenario plays out as described above, I dare say that Butch would utilize the totally unexpected benefit of winning a divisional title in his first year at UT to great advantage on the recruiting trail.
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Thanks for a lot of work and a spot on prognosis. With that said, if Dobbs started today, we lose by 14 or less, defense plays with much more confidence. Totally different execution.
 
#73
#73
We mightbwin one or two of the remaining sec gms but I don't see us winning all three. This team still has a very long way to go and it showed today. GO VOLS!
 
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