Wearing down...

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illvol

illvol

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I'm as disappointed in what I saw tonight as anyone with the poor tackling and the seemingly "uninspired" play.
I wonder how much of that is a result of our lack of depth in that each individual player has played more downs than most other teams players. I have no idea if that's true and I tried looking it up but can't find anything on it.
I'm realistic and know it's extremely difficult to play above our talent level although we did against Georgia and then again against South Carolina but with the lack of depth I can't expect them to play at that level every game.
I'm wondering if what we are seeing is the higher amount of plays as the end of the schedule draws near and a brutally physical schedule catching up to our lack of depth and very young roster.
I find it hard to believe that this team is quitting like others have said.
 
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I just refuse to believe that they just instantly became this uninspired team. The body can only do so much and when you are constantly asking these kids to play above and beyond something has to give.
The lack of focus tonight and the poor tackling lately seems to be possible signs of bodies breaking down.
We know they can make those plays. We've seen them.
 
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Neal definitely seemed slower tonight. It's gotta be mentally taxing knowing you are under year 1 coaching, and have top 3 toughest strength of schedule...

If the boys keep their head in it and buy into Coach Jones system then I have faith that it will translate into wins on the field (away or not, by god!)

You try playing FL, then GA, then SC, THEN BAMA, THEN play Mizzou, the same mizzou who has been absolutely waxing every team they've played SEC or not? I would say the players are a little bit discouraged, maybe even feel like lifes a little unfair right now. They are more likely than not banged up and bruised up and wondering why they play football in college.

But you know what I know for a fact?

I know I feel pride when I see that Orange and white on the field, I'm gonna stick with my team and have faith that wins are ahead. These boys sure are being tested this season, it wouldn't make it any easier on them at all if we were to quit on them.
 
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I agree completely. The pain of it all will pay off in the long run. Stick with it boys!!!!
 
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I honestly don't think we were fully recovered from the Bama game. We came out and just looked flat the entire game. Also this team is night and Day different being Home and going on the Road.

The only reason I say we could beat Auburn next week is because we are at Neyland. These kids feed off our crowd energy and Neyland has been rocking lately.
 
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I want to believe that and hope for the best. I will say that if they really are wearing down then the games will be a struggle from here on out. All the preparation and hype and inspiration in the world can't overcome exhaustion.
Let's hope they were just flat this week and that we can bounce back!
 
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dduncan4163 said:
I honestly don't think we were fully recovered from the Bama game. We came out and just looked flat the entire game. Also this team is night and Day different being Home and going on the Road.

The only reason I say we could beat Auburn next week is because we are at Neyland. These kids feed off our crowd energy and Neyland has been rocking lately.
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Agreed. We have not looked this bad all season and yes I am including the Bama and Oregon games. Like you I think the Bama game was still lingering. People may not want to hear that as in excuse but its true. It happens all the time. A team gets crushed and its hard to get back up for the next week.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
A team gets crushed and its hard to get back up for the next week.
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Enough with excuses - Mizzou got crushed worse than we did (emotionally) and had a lot more reasons to be down and flat given what happened to them last week vs SCjr. But they were ready against us anyway and that was due to good coaching vs in our case poor coaching getting players prepared and motivated (the body language was similar to Vandy game last year when after falling behind the team appeared to quit trying).
 
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TGVol said:
Enough with excuses - Mizzou got crushed worse than we did (emotionally) and had a lot more reasons to be down and flat given what happened to them last week vs SCjr. But they were ready against us anyway and that was due to good coaching vs in our case poor coaching getting players prepared and motivated (the body language was similar to Vandy game last year when after falling behind the team appeared to quit trying).
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Missouri has better players than us. It has nothing to do with last week. Coaches can only do so much, its on the players to play. Our O-line sucked tonight and our defense is slow and cant tackle. We got our asses handed to us by a very good team.
 
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You think your wearing down imagine how these players fill after this schedule . We need depth to play this gauntlet , give CBJ a little time.. Brick by Brick remember...
 
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Our talent is horrid compared to the top teams in the country that we're forced to play against.

We basically have no depth that's SEC starter quality and many of our current starters aren't even SEC starter quality.

Coaches can only coach and try to inspire and motivate.

On Gameday it's the players that have to get themselves focused and motivated to perform on the field.

If Tiny thinks he's ready for the NFL after this season then he's fooling himself when he can't even stop setting us back time and time again with silly false starts.

It's been a decade or longer since we've had SEC quality starters at most every position and the same talent level on a 2 deep rotational depth chart.

This is going to take several years of excellent recruiting to get us back on top of the SEC.

#BrickbyBrick...VFL...GBO!!!
 
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I don't disagree with any of this, but I still think the coach can do a lot with scheme. Our defensive scheming has regressed. We had missed tackles and blown assignments all year, but we were attacking. Brewer, for instance, was spending more time in the opponent's backfield than on our side, and I got used to seeing safeties and corners in the back field a few times each game. The last two weeks have been passive. Mauk is, at present, a poor passer, but we laid back like we were afraid of him. I expected us to swarm him, but we kept rushing 4 again and again and again, and they never did get the job done.
 
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Notorious B.E.N said:
Missouri has better players than us. It has nothing to do with last week. Coaches can only do so much, its on the players to play. Our O-line sucked tonight and our defense is slow and cant tackle. We got our asses handed to us by a very good team.
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Last 4 recruiting classes rank
UT 9,13,17,21
Mizzou 21,21,31,41

Not sure if it's talent but maybe effort

Just remember hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
 
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illvol said:
I'm as disappointed in what I saw tonight as anyone with the poor tackling and the seemingly "uninspired" play.
I wonder how much of that is a result of our lack of depth in that each individual player has played more downs than most other teams players. I have no idea if that's true and I tried looking it up but can't find anything on it.
I'm realistic and know it's extremely difficult to play above our talent level although we did against Georgia and then again against South Carolina but with the lack of depth I can't expect them to play at that level every game.
I'm wondering if what we are seeing is the higher amount of plays as the end of the schedule draws near and a brutally physical schedule catching up to our lack of depth and very young roster.
I find it hard to believe that this team is quitting like others have said.
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You nailed it but the offensive line doesn't get a pass. They have played 4 years together and are getting their butts beat. Alex Bullard spends more time on his backside than blocking, just atrocious. Last night the false starts begins and ends with discipline and they had none.
 
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Orange Venom said:
Last 4 recruiting classes rank
UT 9,13,17,21
Mizzou 21,21,31,41

Not sure if it's talent but maybe effort

Just remember hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
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FWIW a lot of the players that made that #9 and #13 classes so highly regarded are no longer on the team for one reason or another. There's also the 4 years in a system vs 1 year in a system argument. I think we're probably pretty close to them on raw talent but that 3 years of bad coaching and a brand new system on O and D mean that we're gonna have these bumps in the road.

The good thing is that if CBJ and Co keep recruiting like they are we won't be close on talent for very much longer.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
YLast night the false starts begins and ends with discipline and they had none.
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Lack of discipline is what Dooley's teams were often criticized for and it was assumed that if nothing else CBJ would fix that - very sad to see we are still facing the same problem (penalties on offense and general lack of discipline in terms of defensive assignments hurt us as much yesterday as under Dooley regime).
 
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Biopsyman said:
All teams are wearing down about now... Nice try
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But other teams don't have our lack of depth and play the physical schedule we do. You can try and ignore that all you want but it's true. If you have a great boxer and he fights just an above average boxer for one round...and then a different, fresh, above average boxer comes in to fight against the great one for the next round while the first guy rests and it's a twelve round fight... I will put my money on the average talent with fresh legs almost anyday.
Being worn down over time breeds mental mistakes too.
 
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TGVol said:
Lack of discipline is what Dooley's teams were often criticized for and it was assumed that if nothing else CBJ would fix that - very sad to see we are still facing the same problem (penalties on offense and general lack of discipline in terms of defensive assignments hurt us as much yesterday as under Dooley regime).
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Yes every problem should be fixed within 8 games. We didn't get this bad in 1 or even 3 seasons. My God if you really expected CBJ to fix UTs woes this quickly then no offense but you're an idiot. It's going to take more than a season or 2 to fix what Kiffin and Dooley screwed up. Please go root for another team. You obviously are not mature enough to handle a team that is rebuilding.
 
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