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Because I have a complete throwaway email account, I registered at "Sports Business Journal" to read a rambling article about potential NFL expansion ideas.

Compete trash and even in that the idea that the NFL would take over college was considered a "hail Mary" idea.

Others can register and read it, as you wish, and perhaps disagree.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
They're trying to kill college sports
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Nah, they’re trying to profit more off college sports. The death of college sports may come as a result of it but it won’t be from effort; it will be from stupidity and greed. Death of college sports started a long time ago with the NCAA’s incompetence.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
They're trying to kill college sports
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The ultimate lime in the sand is going to be players being considered employees. Unions get involved and might as well shut it all down-for all sports. NFL (or another major corporate entity) getting involved via licensing from schools might be the only way CFB is around in 50 years. CFB goes that route, MBB will not be far behind-at which point other sports are going to be folded quickly.

Sooner or later, a friendly enough court will be found and it will happen. Hopefully after I give up the ghost, but it's inevitable. The NIL thing only took like 25 years. There have been union organizers-for lack of a better term-"probing" college athletics for years. The rules that were in place kept them out for the most part, but it's a free for all now.
 
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VolFan4life24 said:
As bad as NCAA is as a governing body, I would hate to see the NFL swoop in and just take the top 50 schools under their umbrella. That would take away from what makes college football special.
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Wouldn't be surprised as it becoming like Minor league baseball. The NFL has this xfl kind of like that now. I can see them going to top tier colleges being double AAA baseball style and XFL being like AA where get sent down for tuneup. And group of 5s being like Single A ball. I dont like the idea but wouldn't be surprised if the NCAA rug gets yanked from underneath them.
 
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If you read the article, this is pure conjecture from unnamed sources. Full on click bait

"a half-dozen sources” believe that there’s a potential opportunity for the league to swoop in, end the NCAA once and for all, and bring some stability to college football.

And if the NCAA ceases to exist, what happens to the other sports like men's basketball?
 
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The NFL coming in to operate college football would not necessitate the demise of the NCAA. they could likely return to something much more like they intended, and still run the smaller sports.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
If you read the article, this is pure conjecture from unnamed sources. Full on click bait

"a half-dozen sources” believe that there’s a potential opportunity for the league to swoop in, end the NCAA once and for all, and bring some stability to college football...
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So something like 6 guys splitting a case of beer
 
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LouderVol said:
The NFL coming in to operate college football would not necessitate the demise of the NCAA. they could likely return to something much more like they intended, and still run the smaller sports.
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That's the issue. You take away FB and how are you gonna pay the bills for women's lacrosse, etc?

You can't unless Olympic sports are a key tenant of your program and you accept that you will be running them at a huge loss. I can count on my hands the number of schools which may continue to even have teams for niche sports. I could even see the USOC having to somehow subsidize those schools to keep them in play honestly.

FB goes and mens BB is right behind them which wipes out 95% or revenue and 100% of profits for pretty much every AD at each larger school.

The NCAA sucks, but it is Valhalla compared to what is probably coming in the next 30-50 years.
 
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stolitonic said:
That's the issue. You take away FB and how are you gonna pay the bills for women's lacrosse, etc?

You can't unless Olympic sports are a key tenant of your program and you accept that you will be running them at a huge loss. I can count on my hands the number of schools which may continue to even have teams for niche sports. I could even see the USOC having to somehow subsidize those schools to keep them in play honestly.

FB goes and mens BB is right behind them which wipes out 95% or revenue and 100% of profits for pretty much every AD at each larger school.

The NCAA sucks, but it is Valhalla compared to what is probably coming in the next 30-50 years.
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I think its going to have to fall back to true amatuer sports. No scholarships, no fancy complexes, no real support, back to doing more fundraisers, limited travel via old conferences or dropping conferences all together. coaches aren't paid much.
 
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The collapse of cable companies will be the end for all "professional sports" as we know them. There's a reason that in the 50's and 60's all pro athletes had to have out of season jobs. TV money has paid a lot of salaries, but when the guarantee money from cable (with streaming we'll all jump in and out as our season goes) disappears there will be a lot of multi-millionaires trying to live on 6 figure incomes.
 
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LouderVol said:
I think its going to have to fall back to true amatuer sports. No scholarships, no fancy complexes, no real support, back to doing more fundraisers, limited travel via old conferences or dropping conferences all together. coaches aren't paid much.
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I have my doubts that would even be possible honestly. I could maybe see collegiate intramural flag football teams, etc playing other very local schools or something.

Even at that, the "season" would have to be in the summer when most students are on break. Remember, the school can't be involved really in any way or support the endeavor. So no more excused absences from tests, etc for any travel or whatever. Whoever plays will just have to be a normal student with absolutely no special privileges.

Once the athletes are classified as employees, college sports in any way resembling what we have now are over.
 
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stolitonic said:
I have my doubts that would even be possible honestly. I could maybe see collegiate intramural flag football teams, etc playing other very local schools or something.

Even at that, the "season" would have to be in the summer when most students are on break. Remember, the school can't be involved really in any way or support the endeavor. So no more excused absences from tests, etc for any travel or whatever. Whoever plays will just have to be a normal student with absolutely no special privileges.

Once the athletes are classified as employees, college sports in any way resembling what we have now are over.
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like I said, actual amateur sports. its how this all started. everyone has been complaining about how we are getting away from STUDENT-athlete. Seems like this is exactly what people want.
 
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Wireless1 said:
The collapse of cable companies will be the end for all "professional sports" as we know them. There's a reason that in the 50's and 60's all pro athletes had to have out of season jobs. TV money has paid a lot of salaries, but when the guarantee money from cable (with streaming we'll all jump in and out as our season goes) disappears there will be a lot of multi-millionaires trying to live on 6 figure incomes.
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I don't think this is true at all, because you're assuming they won't get their money through streaming. You say we can jump in and out as the season goes but you're assuming that model will always be available. Nothing is stopping them from changing the rules on that.

It's just like how everyone was into cord cutting but now there are 100 streaming services you have to use to get all you want. It will probalby affect some pro leagues but I dont' think a league like the NFL will miss a beat. NBA will likely be fine too.
 
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Volfan76 said:
It would be the end of college football as we know it.
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It would be the end of college athletics as we know it. In their greed, the conferences and schools themselves have ****** up college football--not the NCAA. Let's be clear about that. NIL is a joke--more activist nonsense. The whole notion that the student-athletes are "exploited" as always been a activist-led joke. The students are getting a free college education plus many other benefits. The money programs earn is all plowed back into the program, facilities, non-revenue programs, and into academic endeavors: It's not like fat cats or investors are getting rich on the football earnings. It's all nonsense. The schools/conferences could all get together and end all this idiocy--but everybody is afraid of losing their place at the trough, which is why conference expansion has spun totally out of control. The schools, in their greed, have let big-business commercial interests take control of the sport: That is the heart of the matter, and why there is this "mess."
 
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