What do you believe American Law was founded on??

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g8terh8ter_eric

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I believe that it was probably somewhat comparable to English Law at the time, but I believed they used the Bible to establish the majority of our laws in the early days, which most of which we still use today. Even though the founding fathers DID NOT establish a federal religion, and I don't believe we ever should either, the majority of the people back then believed the Bible as the truth, and they established laws based on those beliefs.

Here's an interesting link I found that has Bible verses that coincide with certain things in our government....

The Bible and Government - Faith Facts

Also, this isn't another comparison thread, so please resist the urge to turn it into one. I just want to see where some of you think we came from, as far as our laws.
 
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therealUT said:
John Locke, Aristotle, and Plato.
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droski said:
same laws existed well before the bible ever was written.
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Maybe so, but isn't one of the biggest reasons we are here because of the religious persecutions that were taking place in England at that time?? One would logically think that if your a religious group of people, that you would derive your laws from the religion you practice.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Maybe so, but isn't one of the biggest reasons we are here because of the religious persecutions that were taking place in England at that time?? One would logically think that if your a religious group of people, that you would derive your laws from the religion you practice.
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well considering they left because of lack of freedom of religion i'm going to go out on a limb and assume they didn't want one religion represented in our laws.
 
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droski said:
well considering they left because of lack of freedom of religion i'm going to go out on a limb and assume they didn't want one religion represented in our laws.
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Seems though that they agreed to use Biblical principles as a source for their laws. I'm not talking about one denomination to another, as far as their doctrine goes, but it would seem as if they took a lot of the common sense teachings of the Bible, and applied it to the early laws.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Seems though that they agreed to use Biblical principles as a source for their laws. I'm not talking about one denomination to another, as far as their doctrine goes, but it would seem as if they took a lot of the common sense teachings of the Bible, and applied it to the early laws.
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biblican principles like what? not killing people?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Seems though that they agreed to use Biblical principles as a source for their laws. I'm not talking about one denomination to another, as far as their doctrine goes, but it would seem as if they took a lot of the common sense teachings of the Bible, and applied it to the early laws.
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Are we speaking of the Framers of the Constitution or are we speaking of the first congresses?

I see little to nothing in the Constitution that looks as though it is rooted in the Bible. I also see little to nothing in the Bill of Rights that appears as if it were rooted in the Bible.
 
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therealUT said:
Are we speaking of the Framers of the Constitution or are we speaking of the first congresses?

I see little to nothing in the Constitution that looks as though it is rooted in the Bible. I also see little to nothing in the Bill of Rights that appears as if it were rooted in the Bible.
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First congresses.
 
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droski said:
biblican principles like what? not killing people?
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Sure, if that's what you want to use. See, the majority of people in the colonies, in fact almost all, were Christian, in some form of doctrine, so they believed God's Word was a great source of laws, or at least I believe so.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Sure, if that's what you want to use. See, the majority of people in the colonies, in fact almost all, were Christian, in some form of doctrine, so they believed God's Word was a great source of laws, or at least I believe so.
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the failure in this argument is the assumption that without the bible people wouldn't come up with exactly the same laws.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Sure, if that's what you want to use. See, the majority of people in the colonies, in fact almost all, were Christian, in some form of doctrine, so they believed God's Word was a great source of laws, or at least I believe so.
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Many prominent statesmen at the time were deists and were more influenced by Locke, Smith, Descartes, and Kant than the Bible.
 
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therealUT said:
Compromises for slavery...
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Slavery was being used in many countries other than the early US, but if I'm not mistaken, a lot of them were indentured servants early on the colonies, and when they were finished with their service, they were free, right?? It after the Revolutionary War, that a big change in attitude took place in regards to slavery in the North, and thus the eventual divide in thought processes between the North and South.
 
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droski said:
the failure in this argument is the assumption that without the bible people wouldn't come up with exactly the same laws.
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Yet, they had the Bible, and most all of them were Christians, so I don't assume anything, because you can't take the Christianity out of the early colonies, it's just not possible.
 
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therealUT said:
Aside from the Whiskey Tax, I do not see any major legislation from the 1st Congress that would have presumably been based on the Bible.
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maybe some of the adultery laws. of course i seem to remember the mayans putting adulterers to death.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Yet, they had the Bible, and most all of them were Christians, so I don't assume anything, because you can't take the Christianity out of the early colonies, it's just not possible.
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no one is trying to take christianity out of anything. a functioning society requires laws. i'm just waiting for the evidence that this society's laws are any different than societies that have never heard of jesus or moses.
 
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therealUT said:
Aside from the Whiskey Tax, I do not see any major legislation from the 1st Congress that would have presumably been based on the Bible.
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What about Congress approving money to have Bibles printed in 1782?? What about Congress setting the original Thanksgiving Day on December 18th in 1777, and it wasn't based on turkey or mashed taters. There is a lot the early Congress did in regard to Christianity. They set aside lands for the Delaware Indians to help them and promote Christianity.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
What about Congress approving money to have Bibles printed in 1782?? What about Congress setting the original Thanksgiving Day on December 18th in 1777, and it wasn't based on turkey or mashed taters. There is a lot the early Congress did in regard to Christianity. They set aside lands for the Delaware Indians to help them and promote Christianity.
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congress approves of all sorts of idiotic things. i don't see anyone arguing that cowboy poets currently have a great effect on american policy.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
What about Congress approving money to have Bibles printed in 1782?? What about Congress setting the original Thanksgiving Day on December 18th in 1777, and it wasn't based on turkey or mashed taters. There is a lot the early Congress did in regard to Christianity. They set aside lands for the Delaware Indians to help them and promote Christianity.
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So, you are talking about the pre-Constitution, American government?

It ultimately failed.
 
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