What gumps don't understand-

[1SmokinVol]

Remember Dee Liners famous tweet with a fistful of cash, "da struggle is over", Reuben Foster the 5 stah linebacker so committed to Auburn he got a war eagles tattoo then switched commitment to Bama 1 week before signing day? New dodge cars, free suits etc. What Gump's are in denial about is they cannot outbid other programs for players anymore. It's easy to win when you can buy as many 5 stah players as you want. NIL has leveled the playing field, Gump's needed a reality check and they are getting it. That's why papa smurf left ! That's why he would never come back, cause he's just another coach with level talent. Other Coaches in NCAA know it- and have very little respect for Satan even though they won't say it publicly. FREE MARKET NCAA ECONOMY, coaching now matters.

 

[madbamahater]

Remember Dee Liners famous tweet with a fistful of cash, "da struggle is over", Reuben Foster the 5 stah linebacker so committed to Auburn he got a war eagles tattoo then switched commitment to Bama 1 week before signing day? New dodge cars, free suits etc. What Gump's are in denial about is they cannot outbid other programs for players anymore. It's easy to win when you can buy as many 5 stah players as you want. NIL has leveled the playing field, Gump's needed a reality check and they are getting it. That's why papa smurf left ! That's why he would never come back, cause he's just another coach with level talent. Other Coaches in NCAA know it- and have very little respect for Satan even though they won't say it publicly. FREE MARKET NCAA ECONOMY, coaching now matters.

Careful, you will be called a conspiracy theorist, a tinfoil hatter, you will be told to stop drinking, you will be told go to bed it's late, you will be told to lay off the drugs.

But, you are right. Bama has a long storied history of cheating. They got as close to the death penalty as you can get in the mid 1990s for cheating. Many of the rules of what you can't do in the NCAA rules book were out in place because of the things Bear Bryant would do. Countless photos of wads of cash, jewelry worth tens and tens of thousands of dollars, cars worth more than I can ever afford, jobs given to family members of players at local establishments and across the state. Particularly, the Mercedes plant there in Tuscaloosa.

They're cheating was organized crime level cheating. They damn near did it in the open, because no one would do anything about it when Saban was there. These things are true. He was untouchable for whatever reason.

Most of what I said above are FACTS, some are opinion based on FACTS.

To the ass turds that are in denial, you are apologists and may as well just be Bama fans. I've never understood how any Tennessee fan or any other team fan lives in denial about Alabama's outward and open cheating. I've never understood it. I guess they just feel Bama nearly got the death penalty in the 90s because the allegations were just false and the NCAA was just being mean to them.

 

[KoachKrab127]

I believe Saban retiring is the bigger factor than NIL. Alabama didn’t win all those championships. Nick Saban did. And Nick Saban could have won just as many championships if he joined any other high profile school in 2006 - Texas, USC, Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. it would not have mattered which school Saban went to, he would have won all those championships regardless. Bama was just really really lucky that Rich Rodgriguez played them like a fool. Now there’s no more Saban, and Bama is getting a wake up call.

 

[PC Jr.]

Careful, you will be called a conspiracy theorist, a tinfoil hatter, you will be told to stop drinking, you will be told go to bed it's late, you will be told to lay off the drugs.

But, you are right. Bama has a long storied history of cheating. They got as close to the death penalty as you can get in the mid 1990s for cheating. Many of the rules of what you can't do in the NCAA rules book were out in place because of the things Bear Bryant would do. Countless photos of wads of cash, jewelry worth tens and tens of thousands of dollars, cars worth more than I can ever afford, jobs given to family members of players at local establishments and across the state. Particularly, the Mercedes plant there in Tuscaloosa.

They're cheating was organized crime level cheating. They damn near did it in the open, because no one would do anything about it when Saban was there. These things are true. He was untouchable for whatever reason.

Most of what I said above are FACTS, some are opinion based on FACTS.

To the ass turds that are in denial, you are apologists and may as well just be Bama fans. I've never understood how any Tennessee fan or any other team fan lives in denial about Alabama's outward and open cheating. I've never understood it. I guess they just feel Bama nearly got the death penalty in the 90s because the allegations were just false and the NCAA was just being mean to them.

Title IX killed Nebraska’s walk on program advantage. The Sign Stealing debacle has reduced Michigan’s recent advantage. NIL has done the same to Alabama and a couple of other historic powerhouse programs … for now. Once NIL is regulated, it’ll be back to who can get the most cash without getting caught. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[onevol74]

I believe Saban retiring is the bigger factor than NIL. Alabama didn’t win all those championships. Nick Saban did. And Nick Saban could have won just as many championships if he joined any other high profile school in 2006 - Texas, USC, Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. it would not have mattered which school Saban went to, he would have won all those championships regardless. Bama was just really really lucky that Rich Rodgriguez played them like a fool. Now there’s no more Saban, and Bama is getting a wake up call.

Totally disagree. When Saban took the job in Tuscaloosa he shut off all information to the program except what he wanted released. That gave him the control he needed to install his own rules. Alabama was so desperate they allowed that to happen and provided benefits to players and give him an advantage to every other school in the SEC and college football. That would never have happened in any other SEC town due to media having access to information. NIL evened the playing field and he knew that he would look like every other coach and threw in the towel.

I have always said, and still believe that the Texas and Oklahoma oil money would have a major impact on the traditional SEC. Especially now since we have open bidding for talent.

 

[KoachKrab127]

Totally disagree. When Saban took the job in Tuscaloosa he shut off all information to the program except what he wanted released. That gave him the control he needed to install his own rules. Alabama was so desperate they allowed that to happen and provided benefits to players and give him an advantage to every other school in the SEC and college football. That would never have happened in any other SEC town due to media having access to information. NIL evened the playing field and he knew that he would look like every other coach and threw in the towel.

I have always said, and still believe that the Texas and Oklahoma oil money would have a major impact on the traditional SEC. Especially now since we have open bidding for talent.

Do you believe Rich Rodgriguez would have won as many national championships at Alabama as Saban did?

 

[Majors]

Careful, you will be called a conspiracy theorist, a tinfoil hatter, you will be told to stop drinking, you will be told go to bed it's late, you will be told to lay off the drugs.

But, you are right. Bama has a long storied history of cheating. They got as close to the death penalty as you can get in the mid 1990s for cheating. Many of the rules of what you can't do in the NCAA rules book were out in place because of the things Bear Bryant would do. Countless photos of wads of cash, jewelry worth tens and tens of thousands of dollars, cars worth more than I can ever afford, jobs given to family members of players at local establishments and across the state. Particularly, the Mercedes plant there in Tuscaloosa.

They're cheating was organized crime level cheating. They damn near did it in the open, because no one would do anything about it when Saban was there. These things are true. He was untouchable for whatever reason.

Most of what I said above are FACTS, some are opinion based on FACTS.

To the ass turds that are in denial, you are apologists and may as well just be Bama fans. I've never understood how any Tennessee fan or any other team fan lives in denial about Alabama's outward and open cheating. I've never understood it. I guess they just feel Bama nearly got the death penalty in the 90s because the allegations were just false and the NCAA was just being mean to them.

Are you in denial that we did it too? Did we do it at the level of Bama recently, no. But believing we had kids come here for education and football is a stretch.

 

[Orange931]

Are you in denial that we did it too? Did we do it at the level of Bama recently, no. But believing we had kids come here for education and football is a stretch.

It was a Gump on our sidelines that was doing it. That tells you everything you need to know.

 

[Majors]

It was a Gump on our sidelines that was doing it. That tells you everything you need to know.

May want to revisit those Majors/Fulmer era years. Kiffin era put us on notice with NCAA. Dooley helped Saban write the book at LSU. But yes, pruitt was in over his head in regards to practice of cheating.

 

[reecetn]

Remember Dee Liners famous tweet with a fistful of cash, "da struggle is over", Reuben Foster the 5 stah linebacker so committed to Auburn he got a war eagles tattoo then switched commitment to Bama 1 week before signing day? New dodge cars, free suits etc. What Gump's are in denial about is they cannot outbid other programs for players anymore. It's easy to win when you can buy as many 5 stah players as you want. NIL has leveled the playing field, Gump's needed a reality check and they are getting it. That's why papa smurf left ! That's why he would never come back, cause he's just another coach with level talent. Other Coaches in NCAA know it- and have very little respect for Satan even though they won't say it publicly. FREE MARKET NCAA ECONOMY, coaching now matters.

Saban knew that and it is a factor in why he left. He complained about players getting paid even though players have been getting paid under the table for decades. His advantage was he knew his opponents would get penalized for doing the same thing while the NCAA turned a blind eye to Bama. Now he has to work to keep the top recruits while recruiting in the high schools and transfer portal.

 

[EastTNVol6240]

Leadership means something. Like him or not saban was a mastermind coach. May go down as the greatest. Sure NIL has leveled things a bit, but losing saban was a bigger blow than NIL. The chances of them finding another generational coach like saban were very slim. It’s probably still to early to tell with deboer but I doubt he becomes a saban.

 

[Orange931]

May want to revisit those Majors/Fulmer era years. Kiffin era put us on notice with NCAA. Dooley helped Saban write the book at LSU. But yes, pruitt was in over his head in regards to practice of cheating.

Well I mean obviously Saban was doing it the best out of anybody. That’s what it boils down to.

 

[Redleg68]

Title IX killed Nebraska’s walk on program advantage. The Sign Stealing debacle has reduced Michigan’s recent advantage. NIL has done the same to Alabama and a couple of other historic powerhouse programs … for now. Once NIL is regulated, it’ll be back to who can get the most cash without getting caught. Enjoy it while it lasts.

You need to add steroid testing to Nebraska's decline.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Title IX killed Nebraska’s walk on program advantage. The Sign Stealing debacle has reduced Michigan’s recent advantage. NIL has done the same to Alabama and a couple of other historic powerhouse programs … for now. Once NIL is regulated, it’ll be back to who can get the most cash without getting caught. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Regulating NIL? The NCAA has gotten sued into oblivion trying to rein it in and lost.

They settled a billion dollar case essentially agreeing that "players can be compensated by the schools directly with NIL" or "we give up, it's professional athletics we're running here, so we're going to establish a cap on what they can be paid by the schools. That will help, we hope."

No it won't. The courts will see this as employee status for players and UT will be a pro sports franchise.

Then comes a draft and "NIL recruiting" disappears into what pro sports does: collective bargaining, a draft, etc, etc.

By "regulating" or "capping" NIL the NCAA has essentially surrendered to the courts regarding amateur status for players.

The next step is a cliff.

 

[vols40]

Leadership means something. Like him or not saban was a mastermind coach. May go down as the greatest. Sure NIL has leveled things a bit, but losing saban was a bigger blow than NIL. The chances of them finding another generational coach like saban were very slim. It’s probably still to early to tell with deboer but I doubt he becomes a saban.

I think it's obvious Alabama lost Saban because of the NIL

 

[EastTNVol6240]

I think it's obvious Alabama lost Saban because of the NIL

I don’t doubt a bit that was part of it. He’s also 137 years old. Doesn’t negate the fact he was a great coach. There are tons of teams with great talent right now doing absolutely nothing. See Florida state. You can hate Bama but still acknowledge his accomplishments. Realists can do that. Some choose to say it was all cheating. Hell we were handing out money in mcds bags a few years back and it sure as hell didn’t equal wins.

 

[madbamahater]

Are you in denial that we did it too? Did we do it at the level of Bama recently, no. But believing we had kids come here for education and football is a stretch.

and we got probation for it, Saban didn't. He quit, because he doesn't like NIL aka paying kids legally. He thinks that's unfair. He'd rather keep it where he could pay kids illegally and everyone else that did was slapped with probation. I'm wrong about this?

 

[EastTNVol6240]

and we got probation for it, Saban didn't. He quit, because he doesn't like NIL aka paying kids legally. He thinks that's unfair. He'd rather keep it where he could pay kids illegally and everyone else that did was slapped with probation. I'm wrong about this?

You were right about the tin foil comments…..and they were well deserved.

 

[1SmokinVol]

Satan was an average coach with a stacked deck - Could rich Rod or others win championships with the talent BAMA paid for for years? OH hell yes. No doubt. Jimmy's and Joes.

 

[madbamahater]

You were right about the tin foil comments…..and they were well deserved.

So wads of cash in pictures are not true? Fancy cars is not true (pictures and social media posts and admission by players)? Alabama given nearly the death penalty prior to Saban is not true? Albert Means and murders in Memphis is not true? What exactly is not true, please?

 

[EastTNVol6240]

So wads of cash in pictures are not true? Fancy cars is not true (pictures and social media posts and admission by players)? Alabama given nearly the death penalty prior to Saban is not true? Albert Means and murders in Memphis is not true? What exactly is not true, please?

I’m willing to bet it’s all true. The problem is your crimson hate clouds your vision. Don’t get me wrong, I have a healthy portion of crimson hate to but I don’t let it keep me from being logical. Let me blow your mind. People were cheating 50 years ago, people cheated last year, TN has cheated. Are you ready for this? There are teams out there cheating right at this very instant. Don’t expect it to change.

 

[Majors]

and we got probation for it, Saban didn't. He quit, because he doesn't like NIL aka paying kids legally. He thinks that's unfair. He'd rather keep it where he could pay kids illegally and everyone else that did was slapped with probation. I'm wrong about this?

Saban is also 72 years of age. Yes, he was better at covering it up. From Majors to Pruitt our system had flaws and got exposed by our own doing from time to time and eventually caught up with Pruitt. Us paying 8M for Nico seems “unfair” but is part of the landscape now.

 

[Majors]

I’m willing to bet it’s all true. The problem is your crimson hate clouds your vision. Don’t get me wrong, I have a healthy portion of crimson hate to but I don’t let it keep me from being logical. Let me blow your mind. People were cheating 50 years ago, people cheated last year, TN has cheated. Are you ready for this? There are teams out there cheating right at this very instant. Don’t expect it to change.

NIL is just the safe word.

 

[onevol74]

Do you believe Rich Rodgriguez would have won as many national championships at Alabama as Saban did?

We will never know. But if he had the control in Tuscaloosa and Birmingham that Saban did he would have been very successful. It is very evident that NIL killed the golden goose down there.

 

[Majors]

We will never know. But if he had the control in Tuscaloosa and Birmingham that Saban did he would have been very successful. It is very evident that NIL killed the golden goose down there.

Emergence of UGA might have something to do with it as well. His age, UGA winning, SEC expanding, playoff expanding, open transfer portal. Too many factors the last few years that have changed the landscape of the game for everyone.