What if we had a good QB

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How do you think we would have done if we would of had a good QB'this year?...and if we did how good of a season?...8-4/9-3 is bout wat im sayin
 
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Undefeated.

No, JK. I think the poor offense this season was equal parts unpreparedness by Ainge and physical in ability by Clausen, and piss poor uninspired play by the rest of the offense around them.
 
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Even a good QB would have broke under these conditions. I can't say enough that this is not a QB problem. In the scheme of things there is a mindset on the whole Offense side of the ball and it seems to be spreading. While we've been arguing Clausen vs. Ainge it still didn't matter. The lack of discipline and focus and no drive to succeed were all apart of the psychological problems on this team. Sanders and Fulmer just let things go or just were too blind to see that it wasn't just what takes place on 60 minutes of Saturday football but what goes on 24/7 in these players' heads as well.
 
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Uh hum...offensive problems were both broad and deep. QB was but one issue. Certainly a good QB could have helped reshape some games, but our WRs just...I mean they...they just...how in the...
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Nov 21, 2005 8:52 PM
Undefeated.

No, JK. I think the poor offense this season was equal parts unpreparedness by Ainge and physical in ability by Clausen, and piss poor uninspired play by the rest of the offense around them.
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so u r sayin if we would have had a matt linehart or vince young we still would have been just as bad?
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 21, 2005 9:03 PM
Even a good QB would have broke under these conditions. I can't say enough that this is not a QB problem. In the scheme of things there is a mindset on the whole Offense side of the ball and it seems to be spreading. While we've been arguing Clausen vs. Ainge it still didn't matter. The lack of discipline and focus and no drive to succeed were all apart of the psychological problems on this team. Sanders and Fulmer just let things go or just were too blind to see that it wasn't just what takes place on 60 minutes of Saturday football but what goes on 24/7 in these players' heads as well.
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so u r sayin if we had a matt lienhart or a vince young we would have still been just as bad?
 
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No saying just as bad. Saying still other bigger issues left unresolved. Leinart could have potentially helped. Young defintitely could have helped because he adds mobility and the run with a QB. But these are all hypotheticals. Who knows. These guys could have been throwing their helmets as well by game 3. And with the tutelage of Sanders, both of those guys could be 20 times worse than they are now.
 
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Those QBs would definitely help. But, in general, I think we would be a couple of games better perhaps. It's all subjective, of course, and we don;t know how things would be different across the board with good QB play.

Now that you mention it, I wouldn't trade 1 Leinart for 5 V Youngs.
 
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Jay Cutler is the best qb in the nation. He will be a better nfl player than Leinart because he is very mobile and has a strong arm.
 
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Originally posted by ut_is_terrible@Nov 21, 2005 10:26 PM
Jay Cutler is the best qb in the nation. He will be a better nfl player than Leinart because he is very mobile and has a strong arm.
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Matt Leinart says "shut it"
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Nov 22, 2005 1:30 AM
Matt Leinart says "shut it"
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You give Jay Cutler support like Reggie Bush, LenDale White, Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Savoy.

That would be strong!!!!
 
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According to these fans in Knoxville, it wouldn't have mattered if we had a good QB. Randy Sanders would have still found a way to destroy our season. If not he, then Fulmer.

BTW, you guys hear about A. Toenia's parents on the sports animal? He DIDN'T spit. and they are taking out a possible lawsuit against the media for giving the kid a bad name, and making false accusations resulting in his suspension.
 
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Good quarterbacks make big plays. A few big plays in close games would make a big difference.

Tennessee is 3rd in the SEC in 3rd down conversions. However, they are 10th in red zone offense, 12th in the SEC in turnover margin, 10th in scoring offense, 9th in pass offense, and 11th in passing efficiency.

An efficient quarterback would have scored on the deep patterns that were open against Florida. Tennessee would have won that game.

Take away the interception in the 1st half against Georgia, right after overthrowing a wide open receiver in the end zone and the Vols lead going into the 4th quarter. Quarterback would have made a big difference in that game, but it could still go both ways.

Tennessee would definately have beaten Alabama, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt with a decent performance from the quarterback position.

Turnovers from the quarterback position were huge in the Notre Dame loss. However, the special teams mistakes might have been too much to overcome.

At worst, the Vols would be 8-2 with better quarterback play.
 
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Originally posted by ut_is_terrible@Nov 22, 2005 1:26 AM
Jay Cutler is the best qb in the nation. He will be a better nfl player than Leinart because he is very mobile and has a strong arm.
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u think he is betta than vince 2 ? cuz vince has mobility as good as cutler
 
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Originally posted by ut_is_terrible@Nov 22, 2005 1:26 AM
Jay Cutler is the best qb in the nation. He will be a better nfl player than Leinart because he is very mobile and has a strong arm.
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HAHAHA!!! The crap I saw that boy throwing around early on Saturday kept making me say "they call this kid a first round pick?"

Cutler has no vision for passing lanes in the short passing game as seen by the 4-5 balls he had batted at the line of scrimmage. Not to mention his laughable interception to lose the UF game... I was rooting for them, and as the strongest player on the team, he folded.

I'm afraid Jay is going to be the next Ryan Leaf... too bad too, he throws a nice deep ball.
 
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Originally posted by Matt #88@Nov 21, 2005 7:45 PM
How do you think we would have done if we  would of had a good QB'this year?...and if we did how good of a season?...8-4/9-3 is bout wat im sayin
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What if I told you before the season started that the Vols were going to have a tall reasonably mobile soph. QB with a cannon for an arm. A player that had, in less than half a season ,made freshman All-American, throwing for almost 1500 yards and 17 touchdowns!! Would you have said the QB position was in good shape??

What happened??
 
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Originally posted by rockydoc@Nov 23, 2005 12:05 AM
What if I told you before the season started that the Vols were going to have a tall reasonably mobile soph. QB with a cannon for an arm. A player that had, in less than half a season ,made freshman All-American, throwing for almost 1500 yards and 17 touchdowns!!  Would you have said the QB position was in good shape??

What happened??
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Messed up shoulder and mental state from a freshman mistake against ND?
 
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Originally posted by surrealvol@Nov 23, 2005 2:08 PM
With a good quarterback, I say we would be 9-1 at this point, losing only to Georgia.
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Is it just me, or dose anyone remember the 14,000 dropped balls this year from the qb's currenlty on roster?

Each and every game this year, we had MULTIPLE drops by the WR's...

And i'm not talking about terrible throws...sure there were those too...but had our WR's caught ANY of the balls thrown to them in those games, we'd all be singing a different tune...and they dropped them for both Ainge and Clausen...

It's just not the qb's...it's the whole thing...

could a Leinart, V. Young, or a Jay Cutler for that matter, helped? maybe. To the extent that we'd be considered good? doubtful.

But the qb's we have would look a lot better had they just caught the freakin' ball the majority of the time.

think back...UAB, Florida (huge drops in the 1st half of that game), LSU (huge drops in the 1st half of that game) Georgia, bad throws and drops all thru out...Bama...drops and fumlbes, USC, huge drops...

Point is...it didn't matter who was throwing, someone has to be on the other end.
 
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Originally posted by surrealvol@Nov 23, 2005 3:38 PM
With a good quarterback, I say we would be 9-1 at this point, losing only to Georgia.
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You are surreal. :blink: :blink:
 
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