What if we had playoffs??

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College football would suck and his awesome playoff still predicts a NC game that is a very real possibility with the BCS.
 
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allvol123 said:
College FB would not suck.
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Yes is would. I would make the regular season mean absolutely nothing. How can you justify a Louisville team that has just got beaten by Rutgers playing for a shot at the NC? We have a twelve game playoff that starts at the beginning of September and goes all the way through late November and early December. You lose and you have hampered your chances of playing for an NC. If they went to a playoff it would remove all signifigance for big match-ups like OSU vs. Michigan, Louisville vs. WVU, OSU vs. Texas. Instead of these teams playing to keep their NC hopes alive they would just be playing for the heck of it because they know they would still make the playoff. A playoff would ruin what we now know as college football.
 
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utvol0427 said:
Yes is would. I would make the regular season mean absolutely nothing. How can you justify a Louisville team that has just got beaten by Rutgers playing for a shot at the NC? We have a twelve game playoff that starts at the beginning of September and goes all the way through late November and early December. You lose and you have hampered your chances of playing for an NC. If they went to a playoff it would remove all signifigance for big match-ups like OSU vs. Michigan, Louisville vs. WVU, OSU vs. Texas. Instead of these teams playing to keep their NC hopes alive they would just be playing for the heck of it because they know they would still make the playoff. A playoff would ruin what we now know as college football.
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I agree and disagree. I'll agree with your last line but I don't think that a different college football world would be a bad thing. The biggest argument non playoff guys make is that the regular season would not be important anymore....I say bull. The fact of the matter is that the regular season becomes far more dynamic with a playoff. As it is now, coaches can play depth charts that resemble a kiddie pool, running the crap out of their backs as the season wears down knowing that they will have 50 days in some cases to recover. A playoff system changes all that, it requires the rotation of players in order to keep them fresh for a playoff. It also makes every game just as imporant as they are now. A team still must play very well if it is to get into an 8 team playoff. If an 8 team playoff began right now it would be comprised completely of undefeated and 1 loss teams! That just goes to show that the regular season matters. As for kids missing school, we all know that is b.s. March madness takes them out of school for a month...a playoff isn't going to be any worse.
 
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utvol0427 said:
Yes is would. I would make the regular season mean absolutely nothing. How can you justify a Louisville team that has just got beaten by Rutgers playing for a shot at the NC? We have a twelve game playoff that starts at the beginning of September and goes all the way through late November and early December. You lose and you have hampered your chances of playing for an NC. If they went to a playoff it would remove all signifigance for big match-ups like OSU vs. Michigan, Louisville vs. WVU, OSU vs. Texas. Instead of these teams playing to keep their NC hopes alive they would just be playing for the heck of it because they know they would still make the playoff. A playoff would ruin what we now know as college football.
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No, we don't have a twelve game playoff. Explain how our current regular season "playoff" is a success when we can have an undefeated Auburn team not get a spot in the national championship game as we did in 2004. Or, explain how our current system appropriately deals with a situation, such as this year, where likely 3-4 teams are equally as qualified to play in the National Championship game against Ohio State.

With a playoff the games would still be exciting and important from a seeding perspective. And do you really think we wouldn't want to beat 'bama just as bad, or that teams still wouldn't want to win all the games for their conference title? And wouldn't it be nice to know after we lose to Florida in September that we could win out and have a REALISTIC shot at the national title?

I'll tell you what the current system does, it leaves title hopes up to a subjective, qualitative process that is manipulated by the media, coaches' administrative assistants, computer geeks, and other hacks in the harris poll.

What it also does is penalize the strongest conferences, such as the SEC, because it is next to impossible to go undefeated.

What is also does is allow teams in weak conferences, like Texas in the Big 12, to get into the national title game without beating a quality opponent all season. It actually waters down the regular season because it will drive weaker scheduling to avoid that critical loss.

Playoffs really stink, huh? The NFL playoffs are no fun, right... NCAA basketball tourney is boring... even MLB, NHL and NBA playoffs are passe.

Sorry, you're argument is terrible.
 
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I am definitely a proponent of a playoff but I would like to see a 16 team playoff. Much more than that may make the brackets 'watered down' and any less would leave out worthy 1 or 2 loss schools from power conferences. The 16 team format would also leave PLENTY of room for an undefeated Rutgers or Boise State or any other "MidMajor" with a spotless record. Their whole argument of 'getting a fair shot' would be blown out of the water, and we'd get some very interesting cross-sectional matchups: IE: Ohio State v. Boise State in rd 1 or 2. What do you guys think of this type of format?:compute:
 
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OrangeU said:
I am definitely a proponent of a playoff but I would like to see a 16 team playoff. Much more than that may make the brackets 'watered down' and any less would leave out worthy 1 or 2 loss schools from power conferences. The 16 team format would also leave PLENTY of room for an undefeated Rutgers or Boise State or any other "MidMajor" with a spotless record. Their whole argument of 'getting a fair shot' would be blown out of the water, and we'd get some very interesting cross-sectional matchups: IE: Ohio State v. Boise State in rd 1 or 2. What do you guys think of this type of format?:compute:
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sounds god to me.
 
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OrangeU said:
I am definitely a proponent of a playoff but I would like to see a 16 team playoff. Much more than that may make the brackets 'watered down' and any less would leave out worthy 1 or 2 loss schools from power conferences. The 16 team format would also leave PLENTY of room for an undefeated Rutgers or Boise State or any other "MidMajor" with a spotless record. Their whole argument of 'getting a fair shot' would be blown out of the water, and we'd get some very interesting cross-sectional matchups: IE: Ohio State v. Boise State in rd 1 or 2. What do you guys think of this type of format?:compute:
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I would love it... would you rather know at this point in the season that you had the chance to play for the national title, or that you were going to the peach bowl.
 
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AMEN brother. It still places a HUGE emphasis on regular season, with this format, because your SEC Champ AND Title game loser probably make it in so there's no room for more than 2 losses from a power conference school.
 
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General Jack said:
I would love it... would you rather know at this point in the season that you had the chance to play for the national title, or that you were going to the peach bowl.
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It'd be great to have the chance... but you get the chance by winning games. Keep winning, there's a good shot you get there, unless you play a sorry schedule along the way. Just win and you won't have anything to complain about.
 
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utvol0427 said:
Yes is would. I would make the regular season mean absolutely nothing. How can you justify a Louisville team that has just got beaten by Rutgers playing for a shot at the NC? We have a twelve game playoff that starts at the beginning of September and goes all the way through late November and early December. You lose and you have hampered your chances of playing for an NC. If they went to a playoff it would remove all signifigance for big match-ups like OSU vs. Michigan, Louisville vs. WVU, OSU vs. Texas. Instead of these teams playing to keep their NC hopes alive they would just be playing for the heck of it because they know they would still make the playoff. A playoff would ruin what we now know as college football.
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It would not make regular season meaningless. At most it would involve 12 teams. Thus 1 or 2 losses and you would not make it. A 1 loss UT team playing a 1 loss Alabama team in October would be VERY meaningful. Saying the regular season would be meaningless is ridiculous.
 
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Everyone here understands that the original NCAA Basketball tournament started out as only 8 teams, right? It has now grown to 65, with serious talks about 68, and some proposals are being considered to expand the field to 128 in the next decade...

Those of you who advocate only a plus one system, are slowly making way for a much larger college football playoff. Keep the BCS and keep the college football the most exciting regular season of any sport.
 
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therealUT said:
Those of you who advocate only a plus one system, are slowly making way for a much larger college football playoff. Keep the BCS and keep the college football the most exciting regular season of any sport.
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I say a playoff system makes the regular season more exciting...with more people in the mix witha reasonable chance of going all the way...it involves more teams then just the top 10.
 
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utvol0427 said:
Yes is would. I would make the regular season mean absolutely nothing. How can you justify a Louisville team that has just got beaten by Rutgers playing for a shot at the NC? We have a twelve game playoff that starts at the beginning of September and goes all the way through late November and early December. You lose and you have hampered your chances of playing for an NC. If they went to a playoff it would remove all signifigance for big match-ups like OSU vs. Michigan, Louisville vs. WVU, OSU vs. Texas. Instead of these teams playing to keep their NC hopes alive they would just be playing for the heck of it because they know they would still make the playoff. A playoff would ruin what we now know as college football.
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Justified by a Team winning only 83 games during the regular season and winning the world series....via a playoff system.

www.bcsplayoffs.com
 
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crazyguy said:
I say a playoff system makes the regular season more exciting...with more people in the mix witha reasonable chance of going all the way...it involves more teams then just the top 10.
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Why involve more than the top 10 in the hunt for the single best team? I think you involve the top 2. If there are more than two undefeateds, then it sucks for a year. However, there are very few years in which more than two teams from the BCS conferences go undefeated.
 
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therealUT said:
Why involve more than the top 10 in the hunt for the single best team? I think you involve the top 2. If there are more than two undefeateds, then it sucks for a year. However, there are very few years in which more than two teams from the BCS conferences go undefeated.
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the problem is, there is no way to quanitfy how good a team is just because they go undefeated. We don't know how good rutgers is...I tend to think they are above average but the fact is without a playoff there is no way of knowing.
 
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crazyguy said:
I say a playoff system makes the regular season more exciting...with more people in the mix witha reasonable chance of going all the way...it involves more teams then just the top 10.
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Agreed.

Tell me how meaningful is the Arky/UT game this weekend for UT with the current system? It's not, at least concerning titles.

On the other hand, a 12 team playoff would make this game critical for both teams. Nothing about a playoff would make this a meaningless regular season game.
 
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General Jack said:
With a playoff the games would still be exciting and important from a seeding perspective. And do you really think we wouldn't want to beat 'bama just as bad, or that teams still wouldn't want to win all the games for their conference title? And wouldn't it be nice to know after we lose to Florida in September that we could win out and have a REALISTIC shot at the national title?
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The games might still be good, but they would certainly loose some luster. Consider basketball: does anybody know, without looking, what we have done over the past 5 years against Bama? I'll bet everybody on this board can recap the football games against the tide off the top of their head back until they were about 5 years old. And the fact that the loser of a key conference matchup would still be in the hunt goes to prove the point that regular season games would not be as important.


General Jack said:
Playoffs really stink, huh? The NFL playoffs are no fun, right... NCAA basketball tourney is boring... even MLB, NHL and NBA playoffs are passe.
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The playoffs are exciting in all of those sports. The regular season, especially in NCAABB, MLB, NHL, and, NBA, certainly looses some luster because the games aren't nearly as important.

therealUT said:
Keep the BCS and keep the college football the most exciting regular season of any sport.
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I don't know about the BCS--I personally think it would be much better if the BCS (or a similar system) only affected the top 2 teams--but the bowl system does increase the excitement of the regular season. If I were college footballs benevolent dictator, I would return to the old system of allowing conference champions to host bowls, with the caveat of #2 having to travel to #1, and bagging the rest of the BCS system. I would go into detail about my reasoning, but my posts are tending towards the long side lately, and besides, as benevolent dictator, I don't have to explain my actions:peace2:
 
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crazyguy said:
the problem is, there is no way to quanitfy how good a team is just because they go undefeated. We don't know how good rutgers is...I tend to think they are above average but the fact is without a playoff there is no way of knowing.
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You have to be joking if you actually think that Rutgers will be undefeated at the end of the season.

The problem with the BCS is that they release the rankings prior to the end of the season. Everyone gets bent, rants about how terrible the BCS is, and then their team loses. I would think that would actually validate the BCS rankings, but, for most it still doesn't.

If Rutgers runs the table and they do not end up in the championship game, then feel free to complain. Until then, its just wasting oxygen.
 
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