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What Offense Does Work in the SEC?
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the only offense that was consitenly dominant was the fun'n'gun. either a lot of passing with a great qb, (manning, grossman, wuerfull to name a few of them)
OR
the offens that would be the most likely to take all the way is to have a good mix of A COUPLE backs (i have noticed its much more effective to have more then 1 back). then have a efficient qb with speedy recievers.
some examples of this are last years 12-0 auburn team w/ caddy williams and brown with campbell, the 2003 lsu tigers which won the national title had several good backs and great wr's, and of course, the 1998 vols with tee martin, a fast recieving corps, and a good system of rb's.
the sad thing is, we have that we just arent using it to the potential.
ainge, the rb's, and the wr's (who are very talented but for some reason seem jinxed). if those guys were used right by the oc we should have a great offense.
imo the best way to go as an oc is mix it up w/ 2 backs, and when we pass use ainge and spread the ball around on 10 yd plays slants and plays where they cut into the middle. (and have them catch it)
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the offens that would be the most likely to take all the way is to have a good mix of A COUPLE backs (i have noticed its much more effective to have more then 1 back). then have a efficient qb with speedy recievers.
some examples of this are last years 12-0 auburn team w/ caddy williams and brown with campbell, the 2003 lsu tigers which won the national title had several good backs and great wr's, and of course, the 1998 vols with tee martin, a fast recieving corps, and a good system of rb's.
the sad thing is, we have that we just arent using it to the potential.
ainge, the rb's, and the wr's (who are very talented but for some reason seem jinxed). if those guys were used right by the oc we should have a great offense.
imo the best way to go as an oc is mix it up w/ 2 backs, and when we pass use ainge and spread the ball around on 10 yd plays slants and plays where they cut into the middle. (and have them catch it)
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Hey, Gatorsn07, mind got sparked from our conversation this afternoon huh?
There has been no SEC play like a dominate team. UGA didn't do it to us, Florida didn't do it either. Bammer, well, we all know how they didn't get it done either.
UGA, barely beat USC and Arr-Kansas.
Florida, stomped by the furbies from bammer who need haircuts. Yeah they beat us. So what, not a year for them with chrissy at the healm. Next year, we got problems.
Tennessee-No explanation needed. Defense can't play ironman. Although, we probably might score more.
Vandy-Middle Tennessee. enough said, posers
Kent....Nevermind.
USC-Who cares. Anything that has to do with SOS makes me sick to my stomach.
Bammer-Ok, the hair is out of your eyes....you're not that good. Please, try to explain away if you must.
Auburn-LSU, what was that all about. Was the GA Tech game getting the kinks out or what.
Ole Miss/Miss State. Ole Miss, the better of the two. But still. After a blessing performance against bammer, what else? Miss State must hate Houston.
LSU- 2nd half, ok, ok, ok. I have herd from many tiger fans. We were emotionally exhausted and blah, bblah, blah. Ok, I still don't see the argument to 30 point 2nd half blitzkreig from UT.
No team out there can smack everyone around. No team can play to it's top potential because of the tough competition of every team. When you get beat down every other game, the depth seems to get a little shallow. It's a chess match. COACHING is what matters.
Thanks for staying with me.
Hey, Gatorsn07, mind got sparked from our conversation this afternoon huh?
There has been no SEC play like a dominate team. UGA didn't do it to us, Florida didn't do it either. Bammer, well, we all know how they didn't get it done either.
UGA, barely beat USC and Arr-Kansas.
Florida, stomped by the furbies from bammer who need haircuts. Yeah they beat us. So what, not a year for them with chrissy at the healm. Next year, we got problems.
Tennessee-No explanation needed. Defense can't play ironman. Although, we probably might score more.
Vandy-Middle Tennessee. enough said, posers
Kent....Nevermind.
USC-Who cares. Anything that has to do with SOS makes me sick to my stomach.
Bammer-Ok, the hair is out of your eyes....you're not that good. Please, try to explain away if you must.
Auburn-LSU, what was that all about. Was the GA Tech game getting the kinks out or what.
Ole Miss/Miss State. Ole Miss, the better of the two. But still. After a blessing performance against bammer, what else? Miss State must hate Houston.
LSU- 2nd half, ok, ok, ok. I have herd from many tiger fans. We were emotionally exhausted and blah, bblah, blah. Ok, I still don't see the argument to 30 point 2nd half blitzkreig from UT.
No team out there can smack everyone around. No team can play to it's top potential because of the tough competition of every team. When you get beat down every other game, the depth seems to get a little shallow. It's a chess match. COACHING is what matters.
Thanks for staying with me.
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Wasn't this year supposed to be your year. JK
The best offense in the SEC is a good defense. There is to many athletes in this conference on both side of the ball for any team to be dominant from sept-dec. The only reason the fun and gun was so dominant is that the defense had recruited talent to stop the run and OBC was using speed and misdiretion to outrun the bigger slower linebackers and d backs. Now the defense have become faster to match the speed and style of the spread type offense it has become a toss up to who is better prepared. JMO
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Good post, that makes sense. I guess people were right about Meyer's offense not working in the SEC. At least in a way. It's working about as well as the other offenses in the SEC against the good SEC defenses.
ost-20645-1119625378: It all comes down to who is the most prepared and who can execute in their offense.
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Alabama runs a more conservative offense than Tennessee, but somehow "messed up" and scored 31 points on Florida.
Some of UT's most prolific offenses came prior to the arrival of Peyton Manning... when the Vols hardly ever spread the field and used the shot gun. Chuck Webb, Reggie Cobb, Tony Thompson, Charlie Garner, James Stewart, Aaron Hayden, Mose Phillips, etc. While Phil Fulmer was OC, the Vols averaged over 200 yards rushing every season.
I think the Vols suck more on offense because they try to use the spread unsuccessfully.
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Okay, Alabama scored 31 on us. I'll say this though, Alabama played the game of their lives and we sucked. Alabama scored 6 points on y'all. Even their offense is suspect against a strong defense. A good SEC defense on an average day will stop a good SEC offense on a good day the majority of the time. I would love to see USC play Tennessee. I think y'all would hold them to around 17 points. Unfortunately, y'all would only score 13.
The SEC has got some good defenses this year--it is a defensive conference right now, from what I can tell--and I rather enjoy it. To be a good offense in the SEC, you need what, say, auburn had last year--a good QB, a good running attack (strong OL and very good RBs) and then a scheme that lets you hit some big plays off of play-action.
I'm not a big fan of the spread--I'm old-school SEC and it just seems too gimmicky and soft to me. I loved the hard-hitting bama game, even if there was little scoring. It was a tense, very hard-fought game--quintessential SEC football.
UT has tried the spread the last few years and not been very good at it. I like power football and passing out of a good running attack. UT had a very good attack during the Shuler years--the Vols could run and throw, and Shuler was very moibleand athletic himself and ran fairly often. That offense was signficantly better, IMO, than the Manning years--during the Vols had a strong passing attack but a mediocre run game at best (and not a lot of defense). Mind you, I'd take it now!
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