What will happen in Syria?

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If US or elements of the West attack Syria, a Syrian attack on Israel is likely | Milwaukee Story

Earlier today the US embassy in Damascus urged all US citizens to leave the nation of Syria immediately. The reason stated on the US embassy's website stated, ""The number of airlines serving Syria has decreased significantly since the summer, while many of those airlines remaining have reduced their number of flights." However according to the global intelligence firm Stratfor, the CVN 77 George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier left it's position at a key choke point in the Strait of Hormuz and is now parked on the eastern coast of the Mediterranean Sea which puts it well within striking distance of Syria.
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In April of last year Syrian president Assad stated, "If a crazy measure is taken against Damascus, I will need not more than 6 hours to transfer hundreds of rockets and missiles to the Golan Heights to fire them at Tel Aviv."
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First they will establish a no-fly zone over Syria, which will include taking out any Syrian aircraft or anti-aircraft weaponry that could pose a threat to a US led mission. Then the way will be cleared for troops to go in on the ground and carry out a regime change which would culminate in the killing or capture of Assad.
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Assad has also stated that should a US strike take place against Syria, "All these events(striking Tel Aviv, calling on Hezbollah to strike northern Israel) will happen in three hours, but in the second three hours, Iran will attack the U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf and the U.S. and European interests will be targeted simultaneously."

These moves on behalf of the US carry additional weight considering the US is heading into a holiday weekend, when the beginning of such a strike will remain under the radar until Monday morning, at which time Washington will be in full control of the news cycle and presentation of the events.
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The U.S. navy said the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush arrived this week in the Mediterranean, en route to the United States.

“It is probably routine movement,” said a Western diplomat in the region. “But it is going to put psychological pressure on the regime, and the Americans don’t mind that.”
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Syria given one day to let watchdogs in before facing Arab League sanctions | News | National Post

You can never truly believe anything though.
 
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robbins link mentions that we are not sending back
our ambassador to Syria at this time stipulating
safety concerns.

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zerohedge also has other articles on recent
developements.
 
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TSwafford said:
good Israel needs their ass kicked
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For what??

Syria had better recruit better help than it had in the
last three tries which ended up with Syria, instead of
being the asskicker, ended up as the asskickee.

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Is Obama Massing Troops on the Syria-Jordan Border? | Western Journalism.com

Update 1: Yesterday at 12:00 P.M. we contacted DOD Press Office via two voicemail messages and one e-mail asking for comment(s) on this story. As of 6:00 P.M. EST yesterday the reporter had not heard back.

Update 2: Another journalist with a major mainstream media publication was told by his editors that there would be no coverage or follow up on these developments.

According to first-hand accounts and reports provided to Boiling Frogs Post by several sources in Jordan, during the last few hours foreign military groups, estimated at hundreds of individuals, began to spread near the villages of the north-Jordan city of “Al-Mafraq”, which is adjacent to the Jordanian and Syrian border.

According to one Jordanian military officer who asked to remain anonymous, hundreds of soldiers who speak languages ?other than Arabic were seen during the past two days in those areas moving back and forth in military vehicles between the King Hussein Air Base of al-Mafraq (10 km from the Syrian border), and the vicinity of Jordanian villages adjacent to the Syrian border, such as village Albaej (5 km from the border), the area around the dam of Sarhan, the villages of Zubaydiah and al-Nahdah adjacent to the Syrian border.
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OrangeEmpire said:
armor?
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According to BFP (Boiling Frogs Post, where this story originated), they are special ops personnel.

To me, this makes it even less "eye-opening". Our special ops community is everywhere. And, if we have to remove all combat troops from Iraq, it makes sense that some would stage at Jordanian military posts in order to continue to conduct certain missions in Iraq in 2012.
 
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therealUT said:
According to BFP (Boiling Frogs Post, where this story originated), they are special ops personnel.

To me, this makes it even less "eye-opening". Our special ops community is everywhere. And, if we have to remove all combat troops from Iraq, it makes sense that some would stage at Jordanian military posts in order to continue to conduct certain missions in Iraq in 2012.
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logical reason is not fun
 
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therealUT said:
According to BFP (Boiling Frogs Post, where this story originated), they are special ops personnel.

To me, this makes it even less "eye-opening". Our special ops community is everywhere. And, if we have to remove all combat troops from Iraq, it makes sense that some would stage at Jordanian military posts in order to continue to conduct certain missions in Iraq in 2012.
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Why would any permanent or long range staging of spec ops troops be stationed near the Syrian border?

Nothing has been mentioned of post Iraq deployment of US or NATO forces in Jordan.

AFPC reports the two following items.

US repositioning forces in region and quoting Panetta:

The Obama administration is mulling a reorientation of the U.S. military presence in the Middle East. The move envisioned by the administration could include stationing new ground combat forces stationed in Kuwait as well as sending more naval ships to the region, although the precise size of the expanded force in Kuwait is still being negotiated.
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Iran levels threats at Turkey:

Turkey is now playing host to the Free Syrian Army, an armed opposition rebel group seeking the overthrow of the Assad regime in Damascus. But there’s new evidence that Turkey’s anti-Syria stance is plunging its relations with Syria’s premier regional ally Iran to new lows, with senior Iranian officials now voicing open threats against the government in Ankara.
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Remember Turkey is a member of NATO.

Reported by Reuters on Dec 14:

Last month, Iran’s semi-official Mehr news agency quoted the head of the Revolutionary Guards’ aerospace division as saying “We are ready to attack NATOs missile shield in Turkey if we face a threat.” Then, on December 8, Iranian lawmaker Hossein Ibrahimi told the daily Sharq that “Targeting the missile defense shield on Turkish territory would be a certain and natural reaction in the event of any threat emanating from that country.” Finally, on December 14, an influential member of the state Expedia Council, Hassan Rohani, told an Iranian daily that “Turkey is going beyond the limit” in supporting the Syrian opposition. The not-so-veiled threats by Iranian officials were enough to prompt a call by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu to his Iranian counterpart, who insisted he “made the necessary warning to those who make irresponsible and senseless statements.”
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Yesterday an Israeli souce said Assad would be out of power within two weeks.

If I were Assad I wouldn't be putting up a Christmas tree.

For me, looking at it from the 'grand chessboard' point of view, Assad is expendable and will be off the board within a few moves.

Just saying. And we will be involved but not on the scale of Iraq or Afghanistan and probably not nearly as much as Libya.

Like it or not, believe it or not, the US government is presently an ally of the muslim brotherhood and they want Assad gone, yesterday.

I've just been asking questions and reporting what has become more or less public.

If, in fact, Assad is deposed, he will be looked upon as a criminal or fugitive as the case may be, by the UN.

Since Russia and China have been backing Assad, they may have some minor saber rattling reaction but that won't amount to anything of significance.

Assad has outlived his usefulness, just like Hussein, bin Laden, Mubarak and al-Quackdaffy.

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

If in fact that does happen, I will be the last to feel any sympathy for him, not especially for what he has done to his own people (both he and his father have been about as brutal as it gets,) but for what he did to the Lebanese during the 35 year Syrian occupation.
 
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gsvol,

Can you help me understand the tactical advantage of taking down the Assad regime? I like to think I'm not ignorant or not aware of whats going on in the world compared to my generation but I don't see any plus for us going into Syria. I understand the Assads have ruled with an iron fist and have committed gross human rights violations but we are in no position whats so ever to get involved in another quagmire in the region.

Like you mentioned if the West goes in it will set off a chain of reactions that will throw the whole region into even more chaos. Forgive me if I'm skeptical of getting involved.
 
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Burhead said:
gsvol,

Can you help me understand the tactical advantage of taking down the Assad regime? I like to think I'm not ignorant or not aware of whats going on in the world compared to my generation but I don't see any plus for us going into Syria. I understand the Assads have ruled with an iron fist and have committed gross human rights violations but we are in no position whats so ever to get involved in another quagmire in the region.

Like you mentioned if the West goes in it will set off a chain of reactions that will throw the whole region into even more chaos. Forgive me if I'm skeptical of getting involved.
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Bur, I'm not saying we should take any action in Syria but you have to admit this is pretty funny:

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As far as mideast strongmen go, I think Assad is far far worse than Mubarak and even worse than Kadaffi, maybe not as bad as Hussein though, who has been gone for quite some time.

I think our Somali action during the Clinton administration was a stupid blunder and our Balkan campaign was even worse.

As one Zimbabwean said; "If America is bombing Serbia for humanitarian reasons, why not take out Mugabe of Zimbabwe for the same reasons."
 
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