When Did This Happen???

[IndianaVol]

Somebody help me please...Where I live, rarely are any TN BBall games ever shown. The only time we get to see either the men or women is when they play local teams (i.e. Purdue and Notre Dame).

However, by a stroke of luck (and Purdue just absolutely stinking the place up) I got to see the Lady Vols play this weekend. I noticed they now play on a floor emblazened with "The Summit". My question is when did this happen???

I think it is totally cool!!!

 

[vols2345]

happend the day she broke dean smiths record for all time wins..

 

[hatvol96]

happend the day she broke dean smiths record for all time wins..

She didn't break Dean Smith's record. The last time I checked, she has the same number of D1 men's victories as Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

 

[vols2345]

She didn't break Dean Smith's record. The last time I checked, she has the same number of D1 men's victories as Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

sorry but she broke the record for d-1a basketball wins in any type of basketball.. making her break dean smith's record of basketball wins. please lets not argue over this, i would hate to prove you wrong.

 

[hatvol96]

sorry but she broke the record for d-1a basketball wins in any type of basketball.. making her break dean smith's record of basketball wins. please lets not argue over this, i would hate to prove you wrong.

You proving me wrong on anything, except maybe the chemical composition of your bong water, isn't going to happen. Summit holds the women's record, that's cute and all. Please don't give me this PC crap about her being the winningest D1 coach. Let's compare apples to apples if there's going to be a debate. Also, a large number of Summit's victories were when UT was a member of the AIAW, not the NCAA for purposes of women's athletics. Subtract those wins and she still trails Smith in D1 wins.

 

[tvolsfan]

give the lady her credit she deserves.

maybe its tougher in mens bball, but the fact of the matter is she has the most wins.

 

[lawgator1]

I think its great that UT is such a perrenial powerhouse at CWBB, but I just can never see the sport taking off in terms of really being popular nationwide. Out of curiosity, have they ever really sat down and ACCURATELY accounted for the expense of running the UT CWBB program versus its revenue? If your progrma cannot turn a "profit" for the school, then none can. I have got to think that CWBB on the whole loses a fortune every year.

 

[hatvol96]

I think its great that UT is such a perrenial powerhouse at CWBB, but I just can never see the sport taking off in terms of really being popular nationwide. Out of curiosity, have they ever really sat down and ACCURATELY accounted for the expense of running the UT CWBB program versus its revenue? If your progrma cannot turn a "profit" for the school, then none can. I have got to think that CWBB on the whole loses a fortune every year.

As a whole, I'm sure women's basketball is a financial loser. The Lady Vols make a decent profit, and have for a fair number of years.

 

[hatvol96]

give the lady her credit she deserves.

maybe its tougher in mens bball, but the fact of the matter is she has the most wins.

I'll give her credit, I'm just not going to overstate her accomplishments by placing them in the same league with the men's record.

 

[Leonard Shelby]

I think its great that UT is such a perrenial powerhouse at CWBB, but I just can never see the sport taking off in terms of really being popular nationwide. Out of curiosity, have they ever really sat down and ACCURATELY accounted for the expense of running the UT CWBB program versus its revenue? If your progrma cannot turn a "profit" for the school, then none can. I have got to think that CWBB on the whole loses a fortune every year.

The Lady Vols basketball team broke even prior to the 1998 season, and has continued to turn profits since. I would argue, and I am not a fan of women's bball, that NCAA Women's basketball is more popular than NCAA Baseball...

 

[Vol67]

For those eat up with ignorance Pat Summitt owns the D-1 reacord for wins not Dean Smith. That is a FACT and all your crying and chauvinist caveman rants doesn't change that but shows exactly what type of person you really are. Go sit will small Mike because your mind is a small and shollow as his and you don't deserve the right to be a Tennessee Vol fan!

 

[hatvol96]

For those eat up with ignorance Pat Summitt owns the D-1 reacord for wins not Dean Smith. That is a FACT and all your crying and chauvinist caveman rants doesn't change that but shows exactly what type of person you really are. Go sit will small Mike because your mind is a small and shollow as his and you don't deserve the right to be a Tennessee Vol fan!

"Reacord?" Shollow?" Learn to spell before you attack other people's intellect. Also, why does Summitt get to count the AIAW wins? Does that mean if Carson Newman joins D1 tommorow Ken Sparks automatically becomes one of the winningest coahes of all time? Also, 67 , does this mean you think the UNC women's soccer coach is the greatest coach in NCAA history? Nobody has dominated their sport as he has. If you're not going to draw the distinction between a sport with a half a billion dollar contract and a niche sport whose championship game is on cable, that's your delusion. Your Alan Alda "sensitive guy act" would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic. How is it a chauvinist statement to point out there is a difference between the men's game and the women's game?

 

[GAVol]

Oh brother . . . Let's not have this debate all over again.

P.S - You misspelled "coaches".

 

[hatvol96]

Oh brother . . . Let's not have this debate all over again.

P.S - You misspelled "coaches".

I haven't attacked anyone's intellect.

 

[hatvol96]

Oh brother . . . Let's not have this debate all over again.

P.S - You misspelled "coaches".

Good eye.

 

[hatvol96]

Oh brother . . . Let's not have this debate all over again.

P.S - You misspelled "coaches".

I don't see it as a debate. I'm puzzled why Lady Vol fans can't simply be happy with Coach Summitt's accomplishments. It is like they have some desperate need for validation and they attempt to fill said need by trying to interject her records into an arena where they don't compute. How many wins would Dean Smith or Bob Knight have if only 15-20 other schools really committed resources to men's basketball? The women's game doesn't have competitive depth. That's just a fact. It doesn't make the women's game bad or inferior, it just isn't intellectually honest to compare it to the men's game.

 

[MachiaVolli]

Some men are intimidated by successful women. It's a fact of life and will never change.

 

[vols2345]

I don't see it as a debate. I'm puzzled why Lady Vol fans can't simply be happy with Coach Summitt's accomplishments. It is like they have some desperate need for validation and they attempt to fill said need by trying to interject her records into an arena where they don't compute. How many wins would Dean Smith or Bob Knight have if only 15-20 other schools really committed resources to men's basketball? The women's game doesn't have competitive depth. That's just a fact. It doesn't make the women's game bad or inferior, it just isn't intellectually honest to compare it to the men's game.

yeah how many times has bob knight and dean smith beat up on nothing but scrub opponets??? Year in and year out Pat summit beats THE BEST teams in womens basketball. its not like they are beating up on baylor or iupui they are beating duke and uconn and lsu... And her records do compute cause its baketball... and why are you calling out vols fans saying we can't be happy with summit's acomplishments?? you seem to be the only one disgruntal about the whole thing..... everyone else in the basketball world excepts it... why dont you go find DonSarge and go have a drink with him or something. yall would really get along....

 

[vols kick balls]

its not like they are beating up on baylor or iupui they are beating duke and uconn and lsu...

actually if im not mistaken im pretty sure that baylor is one of the best womens teams in the country

 

[hatvol96]

yeah how many times has bob knight and dean smith beat up on nothing but scrub opponets??? Year in and year out Pat summit beats THE BEST teams in womens basketball. its not like they are beating up on baylor or iupui they are beating duke and uconn and lsu... And her records do compute cause its baketball... and why are you calling out vols fans saying we can't be happy with summit's acomplishments?? you seem to be the only one disgruntal about the whole thing..... everyone else in the basketball world excepts it... why dont you go find DonSarge and go have a drink with him or something. yall would really get along....

The vast majority of the basketball world doesn't pay any more than passing attention to the women's game. Also, given UT's record in Final Four games against UCONN, I don't think I would be using Geno's ladies as an example of someone Summitt has success against. Again, it's a simple fact, the same 10-15 teams win every year in women's basketball. Part of it is certainly attributable to those schools having great coaches like Summitt, Auriemma, etc. The other driving factor is that most schools, following the interests of their fan base, don't commit resources to their women's program.

 

[vols2345]

actually if im not mistaken im pretty sure that baylor is one of the best womens teams in the country

i was talking about texas tech beating up on baylor and iupui... should have clarified sorry

 

[vols2345]

The vast majority of the basketball world doesn't pay any more than passing attention to the women's game. Also, given UT's record in Final Four games against UCONN, I don't think I would be using Geno's ladies as an example of someone Summitt has success against. Again, it's a simple fact, the same 10-15 teams win every year in women's basketball. Part of it is certainly attributable to those schools having great coaches like Summitt, Auriemma, etc. The other driving factor is that most schools, following the interests of their fan base, don't commit resources to their women's program.

I am pretty sure there are alot of people that care for the ladies basketball.... funny how you say no one cares but ladies basketball sales out alot of games for tennessee...... how many has our mens program sold out??? duke ladies get in as much as the duke men at there games! and pat has a 2 game winning streak on uconn, thats good enough for me!!!

 

[hatvol96]

I am pretty sure there are alot of people that care for the ladies basketball.... funny how you say no one cares but ladies basketball sales out alot of games for tennessee...... how many has our mens program sold out??? duke ladies get in as much as the duke men at there games! and pat has a 2 game winning streak on uconn, thats good enough for me!!!

And what is the face value on a UT or Duke women's ticket compared to a men's ticket? Volkwagen sells more cars than Maserati. I guess VW has a better product by your logic. Check the numbers across college hoops. Indiana, Kentucky, and Kansas would be good places for you to start. Compare men's and women's attendance at those places.

 

[hatvol96]

I am pretty sure there are alot of people that care for the ladies basketball.... funny how you say no one cares but ladies basketball sales out alot of games for tennessee...... how many has our mens program sold out??? duke ladies get in as much as the duke men at there games! and pat has a 2 game winning streak on uconn, thats good enough for me!!!

I will also make this point one final time: CBS pays half a BILLION dollars for the rights to the men's tournament. Comparably, the women's tournament is on CABLE.

 

[GAVol]

I understand what you are trying to say, but personally I wouldn't care if Pat's wins came in tiddly winks. She deserves the recognition.