When Does Biden Step Down?

[volinbham]

It's been suggested off and on but since we are getting into campaign mode:

1. Do you think Biden will be on the ticket in 2012?

2. If not who is a likely replacement?

3. If so, is there any chance he could win in 2016?


My view is that if they don't dump him there will be a big primary fight in 2016 (assuming he runs) and he is not electable.

 

[utvolpj]

I doubt he would step down willingly anymore than Fulmer did but would the Obama campaign really get rid of him? Do you really want to anger a speak-before-I-think guy who has had access to your admin for 4 years?

 

[lawgator1]

It's been suggested off and on but since we are getting into campaign mode:

1. Do you think Biden will be on the ticket in 2012?

2. If not who is a likely replacement?

3. If so, is there any chance he could win in 2016?


My view is that if they don't dump him there will be a big primary fight in 2016 (assuming he runs) and he is not electable.

Would not surprise me at all if he resigned. Replacements could be Hillary or someone with a military or strong business background. Have to mull that a bit.

 

[droski]

hilary makes complete sense, though she is getting old.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Biden - This is a big F&#ing deal

 

[volinbham]

Biden - This is a big F&#ing deal

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Can't see him stepping down either. At least not willingly.

 

[volinbham]

I would have thought Hillary but the populace may be a bit tired of her.

If Biden stays, do you think he seeks the 2016 nomination?

 

[n_huffhines]

hilary makes complete sense, though she is getting old.

Vince Foster says making Hillary your #2 is not a good idea.

 

[utgibbs]

1. He will not be on the ticket.

2. If there isn't internecine strife within the Far Right camp (remember, Obama is right-of-center), and only one Far Right candidate runs, the choice will be determined by who can turn a red state blue.

3. Biden would be the worst candidate the Dems have put up since Truman. He is about to be relegated.

 

[droski]

(remember, Obama is right-of-center)

still waiting for you to explain how the majority of the country is right of center. considering the definition of being center in the first place.

 

[utgibbs]

(remember, Obama is right-of-center)

still waiting for you to explain how the majority of the country is right of center. considering the definition of being center in the first place.

It's not a slide rule, droski. It has no meaning if it is relative.

For example, what is "center" between Hitler and neo-fascism? Does that make Il Duce a "centrist?"

No, these are all on the far right of the political spectrum. It is not relative.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

It's not a slide rule, droski. It has no meaning if it is relative.

For example, what is "center" between Hitler and neo-fascism? Does that make Il Duce a "centrist?"

No, these are all on the far right of the political spectrum. It is not relative.

You continue to astound. If nothing else, you are consistent.

 

[utgibbs]

You continue to astound. If nothing else, you are consistent.

Of course! The real world is nothing if not consistent. :hi:

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Of course! The real world is nothing if not consistent. :hi:

Real world is filled with different perspectives. Just ask Mr. Gorilla.

 

[volinbham]

It is relative - it is relative to a sovereign nation's adopted political philosophy. Ours is a a representative democracy with a Constitution that limits government power. Within that system there is left and right. Obama is clearly left in our system (the system he is bound and constrained by). He might be a right winger in Cuba but we ain't Cuba no matter how much you wish we were.

 

[CSVol]

It is relative - it is relative to a sovereign nation's adopted political philosophy. Ours is a a representative democracy with a Constitution that limits government power. Within that system there is left and right. Obama is clearly left in our system (the system he is bound and constrained by). He might be a right winger in Cuba but we ain't Cuba no matter how much you wish we were.

So by today's standard, Bush I was a lefty?

 

[volinbham]

So by today's standard, Bush I was a lefty?

Huh?

I said it was relative within a country's political approach and Constitution.

Given that I'd say Bush I was right of center.

 

[IPorange]

The idea of a linear one-dimensional spectrum in an age with so many issues and dynamics in play is laughable anyway.

 

[droski]

Huh?

I said it was relative within a country's political approach and Constitution.

Given that I'd say Bush I was right of center.

just like obama

 

[IPorange]

I kind of wish Obama would slide down to the VP slot and let H. Clinton be the prez candidate. I know I'm dreaming, but that is how it should have gone down anyway.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

The idea of a linear one-dimensional spectrum in an age with so many issues and dynamics in play is laughable anyway.

Except for in the real world.

 

[tim]

Im going to guess a female latino. No idea who, bit that's how he's gonna roll
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[CSVol]

just like obama

I say that's fair. He and GB1 both liked Cap and Trade and combining tax increases with cuts to spending as a way to a balanced budget.

 

[utgibbs]

It is relative - it is relative to a sovereign nation's adopted political philosophy. Ours is a a representative democracy with a Constitution that limits government power. Within that system there is left and right. Obama is clearly left in our system (the system he is bound and constrained by). He might be a right winger in Cuba but we ain't Cuba no matter how much you wish we were.

It is not relative, as your example of Cuba clearly demonstrates.