Where are our linebackers

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Tampavolz

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We only have two commits,,, these guys will stop the outside attack and play a huge role in the Tampa 2. why aren't they committing? I don't want to see another year of walk ons.
Lance T should get some of his own kids into the barn.
 
#2
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We only have two commits,,, these guys will stop the outside attack and play a huge role in the Tampa 2. why aren't they committing? I don't want to see another year of walk ons.
Lance T should get some of his own kids into the barn.

Just like speculation on some of our talent (Meline, Dixon, etc), there are D line commits who might be good talents at LB and don't throw out RB prospects for that reason too. Just saying.
 
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There is a chance Smith will play LB. I think C Jones ends up at FSU and Owens sticks with AU. Nelson is the only guy I can think of that we have a good shot at, but I'm sure the coaches will uncover a gem if they miss on everyone.
 
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well we get Reveiz back which is a solid tackling guy, not a burner, but dependable.

Lemarcus Thompson will be back and healthy hopefully...

after that, well that leaves us with Savion Frazier and Nigel Mitchell-Thornton, which have not shown much yet, but have upside...

And hopefully Jerod Askew gets his act together and learns how to see the field vs. just hitting someone...
 
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There is a chance Smith will play LB. I think C Jones ends up at FSU and Owens sticks with AU. Nelson is the only guy I can think of that we have a good shot at, but I'm sure the coaches will uncover a gem if they miss on everyone.

I really hope you are wrong about C Jones. I want him and Nelson.

The OP did not mention the fact that Ralph Williams is likely to end up elsewhere. J Smith would be a mean OLB.

Josh Shirley? You think he definitely ends up on the left coast?

Lance Thompson with all his bragging about how he built Alabamas class should be able to pull L Owens or CJ Mosley. I do not think he will be able to pull either one, but he should be able to with all his deep connections in AL yada yada yada.
 
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At this point we have possibly 3. Thats not bad considering the amount we already have, and the fact that Myles maybe moving down is a possibility as well

Frazier/Askew/Maybe Myles
Reveiz/Lathers/Taylor/NMT
King/Thompson/Williams
 
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Yeah we dont need linebackers near as bad as we need O-Line.

Defense is not of any concern to me with players and depth. We are going to be solid there for many years to come...

O-Line is a must and continuing QB searches and Playmakers are a need...
 
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We will be fine with just Michael taylor and Ralph Williams.

We were very young at LB, Greg King and Lathers will get so much better from last year, the sky's the limit with those two.

Hopefully Askew can come in and play like we all expected him to. I fully expect Michael Taylor to be starter in year 2
 
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We only have two commits,,, these guys will stop the outside attack and play a huge role in the Tampa 2. why aren't they committing? I don't want to see another year of walk ons.
Lance T should get some of his own kids into the barn.



It's a good thing UT doesn't run the Tampa 2 .....

They played an 8 man front last season out of the 4-3 base . You might call it a speed 4-4 ...but definately not a Tampa 2. You would see Tampa 2 stuff ...maybe 3 times a game . I really don't think they are going towards the Tampa 2 . The Tampa 2 is not gonna be successful against many college offenses. It is a D for the Pro sets .
 
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At this point we have possibly 3. Thats not bad considering the amount we already have, and the fact that Myles maybe moving down is a possibility as well

Frazier/Askew/Maybe Myles
Reveiz/Lathers/Taylor/NMT
King/Thompson/Williams

Lathers was one of the Bright spots at the Chicken Bowl. I thought he actually looked liked he was catching on finally. But as we saw this past season, here is another spot we are lacking in depth. i would feel better with at least 4 linebacker commits, three outside and another Mike.
 
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It's a good thing UT doesn't run the Tampa 2 .....

They played an 8 man front last season out of the 4-3 base . You might call it a speed 4-4 ...but definately not a Tampa 2. You would see Tampa 2 stuff ...maybe 3 times a game . I really don't think they are going towards the Tampa 2 . The Tampa 2 is not gonna be successful against many college offenses. It is a D for the Pro sets .

Why do you think Berry played up at the line so much?,,,
we needed the run stopping ability because our LBs were weak. with better LBs we don't need the safety up at the line,,, different D
 
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Lathers and King were impressive as freshmen and i think Taylor and Williams have nice upside
losing McCoy hurts a little but not devastating so I think we will be fine at linebacker
 
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Why do you think Berry played up at the line so much?,,,
we needed the run stopping ability because our LBs were weak. with better LBs we don't need the safety up at the line,,, different D


I have heard this and don't buy it . The backers were servicable , considering the multiple injuries they delt with . They played an eight man front because of the 'spread' offense used in college . Ohio , Florida , Auburn , Ole miss , and Va tech all run some sort of spread that is run heavy .

The Tampa 2 is a variation of the Cover 2 using the middle LB to shore up the zone weaknesses in the soft middle . It funnels the pass to a predetermined area .

The problem with the college running styles used in the 'spread' , option , zone read games that many teams use is the same set of problems it has always caused dating back to the single wing . It creates more gaps at the point of attack than the standard pro sets . You can't use a gap control tampa 2 defense designed to control pro set style gaps and ignore the gaps caused by the college style of running . There are just not enough bodies with the outside LBs and downed linemen...no matter how good they are.

They are not building a Tampa 2 D . You will continue to see 8 men in the box regardless of the perceived linebackers strength . Monte is running a 4-3 and adjusting without personell changes to the 5-2 , the 46 , 4-4 and nickel based on down and distance and O personel package. You will see elements of the T2 on 3rd and deep , but it would be crazy to run a Tampa system when you are cleary playing offenses that demand assignment defense.
 
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I have heard this and don't buy it . The backers were servicable , considering the multiple injuries they delt with . They played an eight man front because of the 'spread' offense used in college . Ohio , Florida , Auburn , Ole miss , and Va tech all run some sort of spread that is run heavy .

The Tampa 2 is a variation of the Cover 2 using the middle LB to shore up the zone weaknesses in the soft middle . It funnels the pass to a predetermined area .

The problem with the college running styles used in the 'spread' , option , zone read games that many teams use is the same set of problems it has always caused dating back to the single wing . It creates more gaps at the point of attack than the standard pro sets . You can't use a gap control tampa 2 defense designed to control pro set style gaps and ignore the gaps caused by the college style of running . There are just not enough bodies with the outside LBs and downed linemen...no matter how good they are.

They are not building a Tampa 2 D . You will continue to see 8 men in the box regardless of the perceived linebackers strength . Monte is running a 4-3 and adjusting without personell changes to the 5-2 , the 46 , 4-4 and nickel based on down and distance and O personel package. You will see elements of the T2 on 3rd and deep , but it would be crazy to run a Tampa system when you are cleary playing offenses that demand assignment defense.

That was good:hi:
 
#15
#15
There is a chance Smith will play LB. I think C Jones ends up at FSU and Owens sticks with AU. Nelson is the only guy I can think of that we have a good shot at, but I'm sure the coaches will uncover a gem if they miss on everyone.

Agreed. Nelson is the one we try to turn. If he comes the 15th, we got a shot...

As for their gem at LB, watch for Patrick Swilling. Dude is 6-4 225 and plays CB in high school. That is crazy. ATHLETE. I think the staff likes him alot. He's supposed to visit sometime this month...
 
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I have heard this and don't buy it . The backers were servicable , considering the multiple injuries they delt with . They played an eight man front because of the 'spread' offense used in college . Ohio , Florida , Auburn , Ole miss , and Va tech all run some sort of spread that is run heavy .

The Tampa 2 is a variation of the Cover 2 using the middle LB to shore up the zone weaknesses in the soft middle . It funnels the pass to a predetermined area .

The problem with the college running styles used in the 'spread' , option , zone read games that many teams use is the same set of problems it has always caused dating back to the single wing . It creates more gaps at the point of attack than the standard pro sets . You can't use a gap control tampa 2 defense designed to control pro set style gaps and ignore the gaps caused by the college style of running . There are just not enough bodies with the outside LBs and downed linemen...no matter how good they are.

They are not building a Tampa 2 D . You will continue to see 8 men in the box regardless of the perceived linebackers strength . Monte is running a 4-3 and adjusting without personell changes to the 5-2 , the 46 , 4-4 and nickel based on down and distance and O personel package. You will see elements of the T2 on 3rd and deep , but it would be crazy to run a Tampa system when you are cleary playing offenses that demand assignment defense.

:salute:
 

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