Where in College Football is...............

[Advol]

College.

The NFL's Minor League is in full swing.

QBs quitting midseason wanting more money.
Indiana undefeated.............with JMUs Coach, most of JMUs Team and over 30 Nils.
Players being payed with NO Contracts.......or commitment.

I realize Im an old fart.............but it is what it is.
It it going to get much worse.

 

[Voltopia]

College.

The NFL's Minor League is in full swing.

QBs quitting midseason wanting more money.
Indiana undefeated.............with JMUs Coach, most of JMUs Team and over 30 Nils.
Players being payed with NO Contracts.......or commitment.

I realize Im an old fart.............but it is what it is.
It it going to get much worse.

You're not wrong. And loyalty easily bought, is loyalty easily sold. But that's what people wanted. And so here we are. There is no going back.

 

[rjd970]

It’s not a coincidence parity is all of a sudden a thing when the NCAA no longer has any power.

 

[Firebirdparts]

They’ll need to make a name for the week of the season where a starter can no longer redshirt himself.

 

[deezvols]

Meh, it doesn’t much matter where these kids go to school. Transferring won’t hurt their academic career all that much. Schools all over the country are trying to make transferring easier on those transferring.

 

[Advol]

Meh, it doesn’t much matter where these kids go to school. Transferring won’t hurt their academic career all that much. Schools all over the country are trying to make transferring easier on those transferring.

Academic career.........................seriously..............I would bet over half do not have declared Majors let alone go to class. Add to that the massive amount of tutors, special study halls just for the Jocks.......Academics are the last thing on their mind. Check out the cars they are driving.................most will be opting out of school after a couple of years at most. They took no classes evening resembling "academics"

 

[deezvols]

Academic career.........................seriously..............I would bet over half do not have declared Majors let alone go to class. Add to that the massive amount of tutors, special study halls just for the Jocks.......Academics are the last thing on their mind. Check out the cars they are driving.................most will be opting out of school after a couple of years at most. They took no classes evening resembling "academics"

I mean, you’re right in some instances, but I know Ole Miss has dedicated people who go around to make sure the football players are in class. They will peek their heads into classrooms to check the attendance of the athletes in that class. All universities that I know of have some sort of progress report that student athletes have to get filled out by their professor and signed/initialed.

Many places at least put a lot of effort into the facade that they care about the academic success of their student athletes, and others actually care.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

It’s not a coincidence parity is all of a sudden a thing when the NCAA no longer has any power.

Yes, but the NCAA created this vacuum and they also created this freedom of movement. They’ve also turned the end of September/beginning of October into this odd opt out/free agency week where if players are unhappy after 4 games they can go into free agency for the next season. These unintended consequences aren’t exactly preparing people for real life .

 

[VolsSportsFan]

It needs some order but otherwise, this is the system that was being formed for decades. When college football and to a lesser extent basketball became billion dollar maker it no longer was about the "college" in "college athlete".

 

[RDU VOL#14]

 

[rjd970]

Yes, but the NCAA created this vacuum and they also created this freedom of movement. They’ve also turned the end of September/beginning of October into this odd opt out/free agency week where if players are unhappy after 4 games they can go into free agency for the next season. These unintended consequences aren’t exactly preparing people for real life .

Agree, but my point was the protected few that were able to hoard talent aren't so protected anymore. I think that is a big reason why parity is better now. The NCAA has been neutered which is good, but also has some negative consequences as you point out.

 

[LouderVol]

Yes, but the NCAA created this vacuum and they also created this freedom of movement. They’ve also turned the end of September/beginning of October into this odd opt out/free agency week where if players are unhappy after 4 games they can go into free agency for the next season. These unintended consequences aren’t exactly preparing people for real life .

how is it not? you do a great job at your current job. maybe you bring in the biggest sale in companies history. maybe you over perform the expected metrics, solve a problem no one else can. most places would offer a promotion or a bonus for that type of work. no one is staying at a job that undervalues them when they have better opportunities.

the redshirt is the two week notice.

the new boss (coach) will ask about why they left, and it will be an ongoing part of the discussion at the new place.

plenty of head hunters, recruiters, and just cold calls in real life trying to get people from their current place to the next.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

how is it not? you do a great job at your current job. maybe you bring in the biggest sale in companies history. maybe you over perform the expected metrics, solve a problem no one else can. most places would offer a promotion or a bonus for that type of work. no one is staying at a job that undervalues them when they have better opportunities.

the redshirt is the two week notice.

the new boss (coach) will ask about why they left, and it will be an ongoing part of the discussion at the new place.

plenty of head hunters, recruiters, and just cold calls in real life trying to get people from their current place to the next.

Not everyone is doing a good job at their current job, in fact most who hit the portal aren’t. . Maybe if they put in the extra hours, maybe signed a few more cards, made a few more cold calls and listened to the managers advice they would be having better sales figures.

Point in case

 

[LouderVol]

Not everyone is doing a good job at their current job, in fact most who hit the portal aren’t. . Maybe if they put in the extra hours, maybe signed a few more cards, made a few more cold calls and listened to the managers advice they would be having better sales figures.

Point in case

plenty of bums in the real world.

plenty of people who job hunt, and bounce around to a new job every year.

 

[05_never_again]

plenty of bums in the real world.

plenty of people who job hunt, and bounce around to a new job every year.

Yep. The rules allow these guys to do what people do in "normal jobs" all the time. I think we all know people who start looking for a new job as soon as they get one.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Yep. The rules allow these guys to do what people do in "normal jobs" all the time. I think we all know people who start looking for a new job as soon as they get one.

Yes, they’re called young people.

 

[Pennheel]

Yep, this kind of unfettered free agency was going to come with the territory when you're dealing with 18-22 year olds. That was going to be a given when NIL and the portal were introduced.

 

[GroverCleveland]

I have wondered over the years if it would behoove the NFL to require a college degree? Not just any degree, but things like business, sports admin, or professional like pre-law -med, engineering.

1) would the prospect be better prepared to deal with all aspects of the job?
2) would such a requirement be any different from many jobs?

I am unfamiliar with any studies on the topic and would be interested in reading any available ones.

 

[LouderVol]

I have wondered over the years if it would behoove the NFL to require a college degree? Not just any degree, but things like business, sports admin, or professional like pre-law -med, engineering.

1) would the prospect be better prepared to deal with all aspects of the job?
2) would such a requirement be any different from many jobs?

I am unfamiliar with any studies on the topic and would be interested in reading any available ones.

I could maybe see an "Minor in NFL". that touches on a bunch of stuff. Would also love a class that goes over CTE. goes over contract language. legal items. tax items. some sort of business or marketing class. Press relations/public speaking.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I have wondered over the years if it would behoove the NFL to require a college degree? Not just any degree, but things like business, sports admin, or professional like pre-law -med, engineering.

1) would the prospect be better prepared to deal with all aspects of the job?
2) would such a requirement be any different from many jobs?

I am unfamiliar with any studies on the topic and would be interested in reading any available ones.

I don't think the NFL has cared that much about a Wonderlic score nor does having a criminal record deter them in most cases.

Can you ball ranks much higher than can you balance a checkbook and has for years in pro sports.

 

[hog88]

I have wondered over the years if it would behoove the NFL to require a college degree? Not just any degree, but things like business, sports admin, or professional like pre-law -med, engineering.

1) would the prospect be better prepared to deal with all aspects of the job?
2) would such a requirement be any different from many jobs?

I am unfamiliar with any studies on the topic and would be interested in reading any available ones.

I'd love to see the NFL establish a minor league system. But that's probably not happening since they essentially have a free one now.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Yes, but the NCAA created this vacuum and they also created this freedom of movement. They’ve also turned the end of September/beginning of October into this odd opt out/free agency week where if players are unhappy after 4 games they can go into free agency for the next season. These unintended consequences aren’t exactly preparing people for real life .

Fact checking:

The NCAA fought to keep huge media deals, ie., big money, out of college athletics and the schools sued and won.

The US Supreme Court ushered in NIL and the NCAA fought it all the way.

The states, including Tennessee, sued the NCAA and essentially won on the issue of multiple transfers for players.

The NCAA prepared for none of this but, in the end, they tried to keep things from spinning to this level and lost.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Fact checking:

The NCAA fought to keep huge media deals, ie., big money, out of college athletics and the schools sued and won.

The US Supreme Court ushered in NIL and the NCAA fought it all the way.

The states, including Tennessee, sued the NCAA and essentially won on the issue of multiple transfers for players.

The NCAA prepared for none of this but, in the end, they tried to keep things from spinning to this level and lost.

The NCAA was the Titanic headed for an iceberg the size of Texas and they knew they would hit the iceberg a full decade in advance and still never changed course.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

The NCAA was the Titanic headed for an iceberg the size of Texas and they knew they would hit the iceberg a full decade in advance and still never changed course.

But what course would've worked?

Directly compensating or revenue sharing with players by the schools is going to lead to them being classed as employees. That's not going to be a good outcome.

When the Supreme Court tells you the core of your amateur athletic business is flawed, what the heck did you expect them to do?

 

[LouderVol]

Fact checking:

The NCAA fought to keep huge media deals, ie., big money, out of college athletics and the schools sued and won.

The US Supreme Court ushered in NIL and the NCAA fought it all the way.

The states, including Tennessee, sued the NCAA and essentially won on the issue of multiple transfers for players.

The NCAA prepared for none of this but, in the end, they tried to keep things from spinning to this level and lost.

they fought it to the very end, and lost. which created the vacuum. there has been plenty of chances to nibble away at the problem without giving up the whole game. but once it ended up in the Supreme Court, it was all or nothing for the NCAA because they had nothing prepared for their inevitable loss.

if they had compromised we COULD, depending on NCAA ineptitude, have better solutions now. maybe something with contracts worked out. maybe still a limit on transfers. maybe a cap on payment. Now they have absolutely no power to fight any of those. but before they lost they at least had a bargaining position.

to continue the Titanic analogy, they could have turned off the engines, and maybe steered away from the worst of it, while preparing more make shift life boats. instead they were full speed ahead with the captain ignoring the danger ahead.