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volswillrise12

volswillrise12

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I have a theory that no matter whom we decided to hire some of our nutball fanbase would complain or pick apart something. Let's say Butch Jones is a big winner here (it's entirely possible)----Did anyone predict Nick Saban would be a big winner at LSU when he had one great year at Michigan State? Same for other prominent coaches (Miles, Brian Kelly, Pete Carroll was supposedly Trojans 4th or 5th choice)...they didn't just come to the SEC preordained for dominance. We passed on two no SEC experience guys in Sumlin and Brian Kelly--now look. So can our fanbase just wash down a good stiff highball and some Valium and chill?
 
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There are people who complain about everything. That's the only way they know how to function. Seriously! They see it through a negative glass and only a major change will cause them to see differently.

My opinion is that UT has more than the national average. If you looked hard enough we could be tops in the nation for the most complaining fan base. Really
 
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Ill add that talking back negatively is from lack of discipline and/or respect. A large portion on this board seem to lack both.
 
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The saddest part of this hire for me is that ARKANSAS has managed to hire considerably bigger names for their last two coaches than UT. Why? Arkansas gets Petrino / Tennessee gets Dooley...Arkansas gets Bielema / Tennessee gets Jones. Either Tennessee, for some reason, is less attractive to potential coaches than Arkansas, who faces LSU and Alabama...OR, the hiring efforts of UT have been deficient. For clarity, I'm not suggesting Bielema is a home run hire, but he is undeniably more highly regarded than Jones. From my perspective, it appears as though Arkansas' AD has simply been more determined. Why?
 
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straferockefeller said:
The saddest part of this hire for me is that ARKANSAS has managed to hire considerably bigger names for their last two coaches than UT. Why? Arkansas gets Petrino / Tennessee gets Dooley...Arkansas gets Bielema / Tennessee gets Jones. Either Tennessee, for some reason, is less attractive to potential coaches than Arkansas, who faces LSU and Alabama...OR, the hiring efforts of UT have been deficient. For clarity, I'm not suggesting Bielema is a home run hire, but he is undeniably more highly regarded than Jones. From my perspective, it appears as though Arkansas' AD has simply been more determined. Why?
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Not sure i agree. It maybe be how they viewed these coaches IMO. Arkansas may have known for awhile that Bielema was interested so it wasn't hard after Gruden passed. We never knew that inside info on him until it was too late. As far as Cool points Bielema comes in with more but they have the same record. Evaluating the hires need to be addressed 2/3 years from now. I like our chances.
 
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Let's say Butch Jones is a big loser here and in three years we're looking at another big buyout, are you going to think this hire was good or are you going to remember Hart whiffed several times before getting a yes. Call the fanbase whiny and jaded all you want, but some of us remember winning and being relevant. It was fun when you went into a game knowing you might actually get a W.

Jones could succeed, or he could fail. Neither of us know how it'll turn out. If you believe Jones is the best UT could pull, well, that's your expectations. I expect a more competent AD could have done a better job. We're both entitled to our opinions.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
I have a theory that no matter whom we decided to hire some of our nutball fanbase would complain or pick apart something. Let's say Butch Jones is a big winner here (it's entirely possible)----Did anyone predict Nick Saban would be a big winner at LSU when he had one great year at Michigan State? Same for other prominent coaches (Miles, Brian Kelly, Pete Carroll was supposedly Trojans 4th or 5th choice)...they didn't just come to the SEC preordained for dominance. We passed on two no SEC experience guys in Sumlin and Brian Kelly--now look. So can our fanbase just wash down a good stiff highball and some Valium and chill?
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Totally agree. Legions of the miserable.
 
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VolinMC said:
I just find it hard to judge any coach before he coaches his first game.
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You're right about the coach, but it's not hard to judge a hire. I'm sure this will get me that dreaded negavol label people like to throw around, but it is a bad hire. Why? Because he was way down Hart's list. One of the key components to an AD's job is being able to sell his university. Not only to boosters but potential hires, fans, etc. Hart couldn't sell UT to several other coaches. He failed at his job more than once. That's why this is a bad hire, because the AD fumbled it from the get go.

Personally, I hope CBJ succeeds here, but I think every fan has the right to question this hire when we were publicly embarassed by our bumbling AD. First there was the Gruden fiasco, then being told no by Gundy and Strong. Once again, a coaching search has left us with egg on our face in the public eye. And I lay it at Dave Hart's feet. If you haven't guessed yet, I'm not a big fan of DH. I think he did a piss poor job and wouldn't mind seeing him replaced. Somewhere out there there has to be an AD who can do a good job.
 
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Every school has whiners. Louisville has its share too. Everyone needs to just get over it and move on. Btw Butch Jones comes from the same lineage as Brian Kelly. What's Brian Kelly doing now?
 
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VolCard said:
Every school has whiners. Louisville has its share too. Everyone needs to just get over it and move on. Btw Butch Jones comes from the same lineage as Brian Kelly. What's Brian Kelly doing now?
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And Dooley came from Saban lineage. What's your point?
 
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To be clear on what I was saying earlier, I'm not saying CBJ will be a failure as a HC here, but Dave Hart, with this coaching search, has proven to be an inept AD.
 
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and Rich Rod spread offense lineage. Hows that working out for Michigan who finally hired someone who craps michigan and are still trying to recover from that debacle. When were finally over medling in mediocrity we might try spending whatever it takes to get who we need.
 
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volswillrise12 said:
I have a theory that no matter whom we decided to hire some of our nutball fanbase would complain or pick apart something. Let's say Butch Jones is a big winner here (it's entirely possible)----Did anyone predict Nick Saban would be a big winner at LSU when he had one great year at Michigan State? Same for other prominent coaches (Miles, Brian Kelly, Pete Carroll was supposedly Trojans 4th or 5th choice)...they didn't just come to the SEC preordained for dominance. We passed on two no SEC experience guys in Sumlin and Brian Kelly--now look. So can our fanbase just wash down a good stiff highball and some Valium and chill?
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I've been doing exactly that for the last 8 years, now I can't get enough wiskey or Valium, but I appreciate the advise
 
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I don't think it is whining to be displeased with our AD hiring the 5th name down his list.
 
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I know these whiny fans, you would think they be used to losing by now, don't know what's wrong with them?
You stupid OP.......nothings wrong with them that winning wouldn't cure....you loser
 
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Funny how half the current sunshine pumpers were all nega vols when Phil was still getting winning seasons even if he had slipped, and those of us who wanted to stick by the guy who won a NC, was FROM here, played here, had a career here....and loyalty was called "sunshine pumping" then.....now it appears leaping on the next bright and shiney is what true Vols do....

Last 4 years have been utter karmic perfection, for what was done, and was done wrongly to a true Vol for life. Pardon if i don't like the taste of it and miss when our "coach" was here and won.
 
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photovol said:
I know these whiny fans, you would think they be used to losing by now, don't know what's wrong with them?
You stupid OP.......nothings wrong with them that winning wouldn't cure....you loser
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Name-calling, is that really necessary?
 
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I'm also in a wait and see mode; and, like many others, I wasn't excited about the hire. However, don't blur the line between whining and passion. We are passionate because we still care - after 5 (or more) years of mediocrity, we STILL care. I think that actually says a lot.

I don't own a wagon and I don't play in a band . . . and neither do many of the members of our Volnation.
 
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