(IBleedOrange24/7 @ Jan 21 said:But my overrated Vol selection would be Munoz...This kid sat out most of a Vandy game, the entire KY game, didnt dress for the SECCG or the Cotton Bowl. His injury, he had played with over and over...He wanted to protect his draft stock and we all know where that went.
Kiner played with Jack "Hacksaw" Reynolds. The best two LB combo fo UT until Wilson/R. Thompson.(Walkerhound @ Jan 22 said:Hey, I thought of another one! What about "all world", large mouth (not the fish, bass type) linebacker Steve Kiner. He's the one for you younger folks, that shot his mouth off to the tune of, "Some people don't know the difference in a race horse and a jack ass", when questioned about Ole Siss possibly being a dark horse in the SEC. I watched him laying on his back all day the weekend after that statement in Jackson, MS as Ole Siss whipped the then 3rd ranked Vols 38-0. He went to Dallas and warmed the bench there a while and I think he may have opened his mouth and fell in and vanished, never to be heard of again. He's certainly a fine candidate for the overrated award. The Hound
(rockydoc @ Jan 22 said:Kiner played with Jack "Hacksaw" Reynolds. The best two LB combo fo UT until Wilson/R. Thompson.
P.S. Reynolds was much underrated and very mean.
Sorry to offend you, Dog. Steve Kiner played when I was a student. He was a great college linebacker. Just because he popped off and called Ole Miss a bunch of mules and they beat us 38-0 and knocked us out of the Orange Bowl and possibly the NC doesn't diminish his talents. My point was that Reynolds was the better of the two though Kiner was the consensus All American.(Walkerhound @ Jan 22 said:Don't recall mentioning Reynolds in my post, and as I look back at it I still fail to see Reynolds' name in it anywhere. So, if your point is that because Kiner played with Reynolds he should have exclusion rights to shoot his mouth off and fire up a team that would most likely not have beaten UT, well I disagree. And if Kiner wasn't on his back most of that afternoon I referred to then I must be blind too. Just stating facts. I've been a fan of UT for 55+ years and needless to say Kiner never did squat in the pros as I stated and because of that and his mouth I have nominated him for the coveted overrated award, like it or not. Mr. Hound to you!
Alright, I'll go along with you in some aspects. Through those years my pet peeve was allowing the players to pop off to the press. The coaches were bad about that, I thought. Yes, you are correct in that I haven't gotten over it. It was stupid. As far as how good he was, look at what the thread says. "Who was the most overrated Vol of all time?" Not who was the most overrated "college" player or whatever. I stated that he warmed the bench in Dallas for a while, and he did. I added a chuckle after that, maybe I shouldn't have. End results, was he a great linebacker, no. I stand by my statements to the thread question. No ill feelings, I assure you! The Dog (if u please)(rockydoc @ Jan 22 said:Sorry to offend you, Dog. Steve Kiner played when I was a student. He was a great college linebacker. Just because he popped off and called Ole Miss a bunch of mules and they beat us 38-0 and knocked us out of the Orange Bowl and possibly the NC doesn't diminish his talents. My point was that Reynolds was the better of the two though Kiner was the consensus All American.
P.S. Don't forget who was the QB on the Ole Miss team, Archie Manning. I suspect that may have had a lot to do with the loss which was a sad day in UT football history. I got over it. Sounds like you haven"t. :hi:
Welcome aboard. Good to have someone other than myself and Oldvol (who sometimes sees everything thru orange tinted glasses) to reflect on players or events more than a few years ago! :bow:(Walkerhound @ Jan 22 said:Alright, I'll go along with you in some aspects. Through those years my pet peeve was allowing the players to pop off to the press. The coaches were bad about that, I thought. Yes, you are correct in that I haven't gotten over it. It was stupid. As far as how good he was, look at what the thread says. "Who was the most overrated Vol of all time?" Not who was the most overrated "college" player or whatever. I stated that he warmed the bench in Dallas for a while, and he did. I added a chuckle after that, maybe I shouldn't have. End results, was he a great linebacker, no. I stand by my statements to the thread question. No ill feelings, I assure you! The Dog (if u please)
(Walkerhound @ Jan 22 said:Hey, I thought of another one! What about "all world", large mouth (not the fish, bass type) linebacker Steve Kiner. He's the one for you younger folks, that shot his mouth off to the tune of, "Some people don't know the difference in a race horse and a jack ass", when questioned about Ole Siss possibly being a dark horse in the SEC. I watched him laying on his back all day the weekend after that statement in Jackson, MS as Ole Siss whipped the then 3rd ranked Vols 38-0. He went to Dallas and warmed the bench there a while and I think he may have opened his mouth and fell in and vanished, never to be heard of again. He's certainly a fine candidate for the overrated award. The Hound