Who's to blame??? [Long post]

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This may come as a surprise to some of you, but after some thought and sleep, I have come to the conclusion that I don't blame Cuonzo Martin (head basketball coach at Tennessee) for the bi-polar program that has been Tennessee Basketball for the past 3 years. Also, I don't blame our former coach Bruce Pearl for his actions, which ended what I will call the "glory years" of UT basketball. Nope. I blame one man. Former Athletic Director, Mike Hamilton. Let's go back in time for a moment and think about the decision making history of Hamilton. The Head football coach Philip Fulmer, had just finished a few seasons that didn't quite meet the standards that the Tennessee football program had grown accustom to over the past 20 years.

Fans were calling for Fulmer's head, and I was one of them. So, Hamilton made the decision to ask Fulmer to retire. Subsequently, Hamilton hired Lane Kiffin, the exact opposite "type" of person and coach. Kiffin had been Offensive Coordinator at USC and won National Championships. He had been a head coach for the Oakland Raiders where he had been fired after only winning a few games in a few seasons. Kiffin and Fulmer couldn't be more different as human beings and as football coaches. The fans (including myself) LOVED the hire because of the energy that it brought back to Rocky Top. Then after 1 year Kiffin left Rocky Top for his "dream job" at USC.

Then Hamilton hired a new football coach by the name of Dere..........I can't even type it, it's so disgusting to type......Derek Dooley. Dooley had never beaten a team in the top 25. Derek Dooley was a southern boy from a prestigious football family. He talked with a southern accent. He said all the right things. He was someone the majority of the fan base wanted to see win. He wore orange pants for goodness sake!!! He was the EXACT OPPOSITE of Lane Kiffin. Just as different as Fulmer and Kiffin were, Kiffin and Dooley were just as different, if not more so.

Now lets switch to basketball. Our previous coach, Buzz Peterson, did not have the most exciting offense, sure he was college roommates with Michael Jordan, his Airness, but his teams were not fun to watch and didn't produce on the court the way Tennessee basketball fans expected them too. For all intents and purposes he was boring. So, the athletic director Mike Hamilton fired Buzz and hired this new up and coming coach from a small school who had just made a cinderella run in the NCAA Tournament, Bruce Pearl.

Bruce was a PR dream! He was said all the right things. He excited the students and alumni. He was emotional on the court and in his interviews. He started wearing the orange blazer to pay tribute to Ray Mears (legendary UT coach). He painted his body with some of the players and stood in the student section for the Lady Vols vs. Duke basketball game. He took UT to the NCAA tournament every year as the head coach, including a trip to the Elite 8, where UT had NEVER been before. Under his coaching UT became the #1 team in the country for the first time in history! He oozed orange, white and Tennessee.

Unfortunately, due to a situation with the NCAA he was forced to resign as coach. Hamilton was faced with another coaching search. He hired Cuonzo Martin. Martin was coach at a small mid-major conference school. He had never led a team to the NCAA Tournament. He was soft spoken and quite. He didn't get emotional on the court. He didn't yell, he didn't paint his chest, he came from a tough background. He was considered by the coaching circles as an incredible man of integrity and character. You could say Martin is the exact OPPOSITE of Bruce Pearl. As opposite as Fulmer was to Kiffin and Kiffin was to Dooley and Buzz was to Bruce, Martin was just as opposite a person and coach to who Bruce was. Shortly after Cuonzo was hired, Hamilton resigned as the AD at UT.

Unfortunately, we were stuck with Dooley and Martin. Following Dooley's 4th year as football coach, the current AD at UT, Dave Hart, had seen enough and fired Dooley and hired Butch Jones. ENOUGH SAID about that..... However, Cuonzo Martin is finishing his 3rd year and Tennessee is WORSE now than we were Martins first year on campus, despite having 100 times more talent on the team than he did 3 years ago. Additionally, Martin's teams have had a history of being bi-polar, up and down, up and down. Win games we shouldn't, lose games we shouldn't. And Martin has yet to take UT to the NCAA tournament.

So, lets look at the pattern of Hamilton's time at Tennessee. He had a track record of hiring coaches (basketball & football) who were polar opposites of their predecessor. He would hire someone who was the exact opposite of the previous coach in every way. It was more about finding a coach who was completely different from the last guy, than it was to find a coach who fit what Tennessee Basketball or Tennessee Football NEEDED. Hamilton's pattern of bi-polar hiring decisions is the sole reason Tennessee is where it is today. Dave Hart has begun to put the pieces back together, he's got the glue and the instructions. He's almost completed the Football portion of the puzzle, but he hasn't started on the Basketball portion yet.

In conclusion, I do not blame the coaches, because other than Bruce Pearl, the other coaches should have NEVER been given a head coaching position at The University of Tennessee. It's not the coaches fault that they weren't successful or good at their jobs. Its like having a Parent put a 6 year old in an Organic Chemistry class and then blaming the 6 year old for not knowing how to do Organic Chemistry. THEY ARE 6 YEARS OLD!! They shouldn't be doing Organic Chemistry in the first place. They should be finger painting, learning to tie their shoes, learning their ABC's and learning to write their name. It's not their fault. It's the Parent who put the 6 year old in that situation. It's Hamilton's fault for putting Kiffin, Dooley, Buzz, and Cuonzo in the position they were in. Don't blame the kids, blame the Parent!!!

GBO
 
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Good post. I can't say I disagree with any of it. You can't blame the coaches for taking the carrots dangled in front of them. While mostly inept, I think they all tried their best. Effort without results doesn't cut it at this level though.
 
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The only thing I frown on is Dooleys crazy contract. Besides that, I have no issues with any of the hires. Martin has a ton of potential and couldn't get it done. Three years is long enough so I say cut ties and head in a new direction. Now is the time when we find out if we got an AD worth a crap or not. He's either fired or gets an extension.
 
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I can't believe people still think Hamilton made all those calls on his own. He was a bean counter and a yes man. This goes deeper.

Orange King type deep.
 
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So I guess OP this comes down to LEADERSHIP, not only on the court/field but off. As we have seen CBJ has stressed leadership and accountability on and off the field, where as we are quick to call for a coaches head when he didn't even shot the first shot. I support all of out players and coaches, and will continued to support them. But Tennessee Basketball is missing the leader that will call players out for coasting...CBP had those players that were leaders on the court...its a must!

Leadership starts at the TOP/AD and steps through the coaching ranks down to the players.
 
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Mike Hamilton will go down in history as the worst AD at UT ever. He was overmatched from the beginning and made the worst hire at UT in any sport (Dooley).
 
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So....you're blaming the same guy that hired CBP in the first place for all that ails UT bball?
 
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If you are a good x and o's coach it is easier to get it done in basketball. It has amazed me what stallings has done with vandy this year.

What kills me about CCM is his failure to take advantage of the obvious in games this year. 4 fouls. 1-3-1 defense. running a ragged out team. In game coaching has been null and void.

Add to this the Baseball hires. There is another example of Hamilton's hire prowess....
 
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I can't believe people still think Hamilton made all those calls on his own. He was a bean counter and a yes man. This goes deeper.

Orange King type deep.

The campus has had a power vacuum from the top down since Petersen was president then Jimmy Cheek stepped in to partially fill that vacuum.

Someone needed to reign this guy in a few years ago and it still hasn't happened.

I am not saying Chancellor's don't get involved in big time decisions at other schools but I doubt you'll find anywhere else where one has had such a heavy hand in dealing with the athletics as Cheek has.

All of these coaching debacles have been a failing starting with the donors with the deepest pockets on down to the BOT and the presidents and then down to Cheek and onto Hamilton and Hart( and yeah..Butch had a nice recruiting class but until next season he is a sub .500 SEC coach).

Pointing it at Hamilton alone is short sighted at best.
 
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I don't blame the coaches, I blame the AD for giving most of them the extra year when the hand written is on the wall, that they cant coach in the SEC , then that extra year puts us at least year 3 years behind. Man im 52 im running out of fffffffffffffffffffffffffffing years to wait till next year.:)
 
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The campus has had a power vacuum from the top down since Petersen was president then Jimmy Cheek stepped in to partially fill that vacuum.

Someone needed to reign this guy in a few years ago and it still hasn't happened.

I am not saying Chancellor's don't get involved in big time decisions at other schools but I doubt you'll find anywhere else where one has had such a heavy hand in dealing with the athletics as Cheek has.

All of these coaching debacles have been a failing starting with the donors with the deepest pockets on down to the BOT and the presidents and then down to Cheek and onto Hamilton and Hart( and yeah..Butch had a nice recruiting class but until next season he is a sub .500 SEC coach).

Pointing it at Hamilton alone is short sighted at best.

This ^

IMO, there's been a fundamental failure of leadership on The Hill for years now. Hamilton was simply the tip of the proverbial iceberg. And I'm not convinced that there has been sufficient turnover at the highest levels to correct the problem.

I fear the power players are so insulated within their bubble that they're oblivious to something that is obvious for anyone to see.
 
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Mike Hamilton will go down in history as the worst AD at UT ever. He was overmatched from the beginning and made the worst hire at UT in any sport (Dooley).

Phenomenal fundraiser. We owe Mike for our facilities

Terrible contract manager. The OP stated he asked Fulmer to retire. I wish. He paid Fulmer to retire a year after extending his contract. In football, that was expensive.

Dooley and Cuonzo were terrible hired. His handling if the Pearl situation was unprofessional.

But TBA is one of the best venues to watch ball in the country. Book it.
 
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This may come as a surprise to some of you, but after some thought and sleep, I have come to the conclusion that I don't blame Cuonzo Martin (head basketball coach at Tennessee) for the bi-polar program that has been Tennessee Basketball for the past 3 years. Also, I don't blame our former coach Bruce Pearl for his actions, which ended what I will call the "glory years" of UT basketball. Nope. I blame one man. Former Athletic Director, Mike Hamilton. Let's go back in time for a moment and think about the decision making history of Hamilton. The Head football coach Philip Fulmer, had just finished a few seasons that didn't quite meet the standards that the Tennessee football program had grown accustom to over the past 20 years.

Fans were calling for Fulmer's head, and I was one of them. So, Hamilton made the decision to ask Fulmer to retire. Subsequently, Hamilton hired Lane Kiffin, the exact opposite "type" of person and coach. Kiffin had been Offensive Coordinator at USC and won National Championships. He had been a head coach for the Oakland Raiders where he had been fired after only winning a few games in a few seasons. Kiffin and Fulmer couldn't be more different as human beings and as football coaches. The fans (including myself) LOVED the hire because of the energy that it brought back to Rocky Top. Then after 1 year Kiffin left Rocky Top for his "dream job" at USC.

Then Hamilton hired a new football coach by the name of Dere..........I can't even type it, it's so disgusting to type......Derek Dooley. Dooley had never beaten a team in the top 25. Derek Dooley was a southern boy from a prestigious football family. He talked with a southern accent. He said all the right things. He was someone the majority of the fan base wanted to see win. He wore orange pants for goodness sake!!! He was the EXACT OPPOSITE of Lane Kiffin. Just as different as Fulmer and Kiffin were, Kiffin and Dooley were just as different, if not more so.

Now lets switch to basketball. Our previous coach, Buzz Peterson, did not have the most exciting offense, sure he was college roommates with Michael Jordan, his Airness, but his teams were not fun to watch and didn't produce on the court the way Tennessee basketball fans expected them too. For all intents and purposes he was boring. So, the athletic director Mike Hamilton fired Buzz and hired this new up and coming coach from a small school who had just made a cinderella run in the NCAA Tournament, Bruce Pearl.

Bruce was a PR dream! He was said all the right things. He excited the students and alumni. He was emotional on the court and in his interviews. He started wearing the orange blazer to pay tribute to Ray Mears (legendary UT coach). He painted his body with some of the players and stood in the student section for the Lady Vols vs. Duke basketball game. He took UT to the NCAA tournament every year as the head coach, including a trip to the Elite 8, where UT had NEVER been before. Under his coaching UT became the #1 team in the country for the first time in history! He oozed orange, white and Tennessee.

Unfortunately, due to a situation with the NCAA he was forced to resign as coach. Hamilton was faced with another coaching search. He hired Cuonzo Martin. Martin was coach at a small mid-major conference school. He had never led a team to the NCAA Tournament. He was soft spoken and quite. He didn't get emotional on the court. He didn't yell, he didn't paint his chest, he came from a tough background. He was considered by the coaching circles as an incredible man of integrity and character. You could say Martin is the exact OPPOSITE of Bruce Pearl. As opposite as Fulmer was to Kiffin and Kiffin was to Dooley and Buzz was to Bruce, Martin was just as opposite a person and coach to who Bruce was. Shortly after Cuonzo was hired, Hamilton resigned as the AD at UT.

Unfortunately, we were stuck with Dooley and Martin. Following Dooley's 4th year as football coach, the current AD at UT, Dave Hart, had seen enough and fired Dooley and hired Butch Jones. ENOUGH SAID about that..... However, Cuonzo Martin is finishing his 3rd year and Tennessee is WORSE now than we were Martins first year on campus, despite having 100 times more talent on the team than he did 3 years ago. Additionally, Martin's teams have had a history of being bi-polar, up and down, up and down. Win games we shouldn't, lose games we shouldn't. And Martin has yet to take UT to the NCAA tournament.

So, lets look at the pattern of Hamilton's time at Tennessee. He had a track record of hiring coaches (basketball & football) who were polar opposites of their predecessor. He would hire someone who was the exact opposite of the previous coach in every way. It was more about finding a coach who was completely different from the last guy, than it was to find a coach who fit what Tennessee Basketball or Tennessee Football NEEDED. Hamilton's pattern of bi-polar hiring decisions is the sole reason Tennessee is where it is today. Dave Hart has begun to put the pieces back together, he's got the glue and the instructions. He's almost completed the Football portion of the puzzle, but he hasn't started on the Basketball portion yet.

In conclusion, I do not blame the coaches, because other than Bruce Pearl, the other coaches should have NEVER been given a head coaching position at The University of Tennessee. It's not the coaches fault that they weren't successful or good at their jobs. Its like having a Parent put a 6 year old in an Organic Chemistry class and then blaming the 6 year old for not knowing how to do Organic Chemistry. THEY ARE 6 YEARS OLD!! They shouldn't be doing Organic Chemistry in the first place. They should be finger painting, learning to tie their shoes, learning their ABC's and learning to write their name. It's not their fault. It's the Parent who put the 6 year old in that situation. It's Hamilton's fault for putting Kiffin, Dooley, Buzz, and Cuonzo in the position they were in. Don't blame the kids, blame the Parent!!!

GBO
A long post just to say Hambone set the football program back about 10 years and the basketball program back about 6 years assuming we do the obvious and fire CCM and bring in a quality coach. Way to looong and has been said MANY TIMES BEFORE but accurate!
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Phenomenal fundraiser. We owe Mike for our facilities

Terrible contract manager. The OP stated he asked Fulmer to retire. I wish. He paid Fulmer to retire a year after extending his contract. In football, that was expensive.

Dooley and Cuonzo were terrible hired. His handling if the Pearl situation was unprofessional.

But TBA is one of the best venues to watch ball in the country. Book it.

Not trying to start a holy war with you here Dorn, but I can think of at least a dozen better places to watch a basketball game. I love the Vols but this is false. IMO

Its too big and they cater to the blue hairs way too much. Our student section needs to be on the side most cameras are pointing not in the corner and baseline only. also JMO
 
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Not trying to start a holy war with you here Dorn, but I can think of at least a dozen better places to watch a basketball game. I love the Vols but this is false. IMO

Its too big and they cater to the blue hairs way too much. Our student section needs to be on the side most cameras are pointing not in the corner and baseline only. also JMO

Agree about the student section. I've seen games in many of basketballs holy grails, Cameron Indoor vs Michigan State about a decade ago. Cameron is made what it is by the fans, knowledge, and passion.

Tennessee was developing a basketball culture but it has been slipping. The student section on the sideline was pushed for while Bruce was there, but it didn't happen.

TBA is nicer than many NBA arenas. That's all I'm saying. I think you are focusing on atmosphere, of which, I agree.
 
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Agree about the student section. I've seen games in many of basketballs holy grails, Cameron Indoor vs Michigan State about a decade ago. Cameron is made what it is by the fans, knowledge, and passion.

Tennessee was developing a basketball culture but it has been slipping. The student section on the sideline was pushed for while Bruce was there, but it didn't happen.

TBA is nicer than many NBA arenas. That's all I'm saying. I think you are focusing on atmosphere, of which, I agree.

:good!: in that case I agree 100%.

TBA could be a phenomenal place to watch a college basketball game.
 

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