Why Georgia Shouldn't Fire Richt

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After watching Georgia get humiliated in that Florida game, I knew there would be calls for Mark Richt's head. As I was watching, I thought to myself, "this is the biggest waste of talent I've seen since Ron Zook." It's true that Georgia's QB situation is less than ideal, and they've lost their best player (Nick Chubb), but they are still loaded at most positions. They shouldn't be struggling this much.

On the other hand, there's this.

1. Mark Richt is Georgia's Best Coach in History

Sounds like a bold claim, but it's very defensible. Richt is 141 - 51 at UGA for a .734 win percentage. The man who is considered Georgia's greatest coach of all-time is Vince Dooley. Dooley was 201-77-10 for a .715 win percentage. Also factor in that Mark Richt likely had a higher strength of schedule in the 00s and 10s than Dooley had in the 70s and 80s. Then also consider that Dooley's record was dramatically improved by having arguably the greatest college football player of all-time, Herschel Walker. Dooley went 33-3 in the Walker years, so his win % drops to .687 without Walker. Based on all this, I think the claim that Mark Richt is Georgia's greatest coach looks very strong.

2. Vince Didn't Win Big Till His 17th Season

Amazing stat, but Dooley never won a national title till his 17th season at UGA. Interestingly, Dooley's 14th and 16th seasons were considered huge disappointments, going 5-6 and 6-5. He recruited Herschel Walker in his 17th season and the rest is history. Now he's known as the best coach in Georgia history. For the record, Mark Richt is in his 15th season, so he's almost at exactly the same point in his career where Dooley had a few disappointing seasons, but then turned it around and won a national title.

3. Georgia's 2016 Class May Be Its Best Since the Herschel Walker Class

Seriously, it's only ranked #6 right now, but they have the #1 QB recruit in the nation with Jacob Eason, and the rumor is that there are 5-6 silent commits right now. This likely includes 5 star WR Mecole Hardman, 5-star DE Derrick Brown, and a handful of 4 star recruits. If this is true (and it seems very plausible), then it's likely that Georgia ends up with a top 3 class, and maybe even a #1 or #2 class in the nation.

Don't Think UGA Will Pull a Hamilton

While I don't think Georgia should pull the plug on Mark Richt yet, I also don't think they'll pull a Hamilton and hire incompetents like Kiffin and Derek Dooley. They'll get a top-notch coach and it won't be a disaster, but they might end up losing this one spectacular class that could have the potential to be national title worthy.

Georgia Should Fire Schottenheimer

While Richt certainly deserves some blame for this season's debacle, it really all goes back to one very terrible hire: Brian Schottenheimer as OC. Schottenheimer was known for overly complex, mediocre offenses in the NFL. I'm not really sure why Richt decided he was the perfect fit for the job, but after the Florida game, it's starting to look like his reputation might be deserved.

For whatever reason, UGA can't seem to have two good coordinators at the same time. Mike Bobo, in spite of constant criticism from UGA fans, regularly had some of the best offenses in college football. Yet, UGA was held back by Todd Grantham's awful defenses for several years. Finally, Grantham takes a new job (Louisville inexplicably decided he was so good, he deserved a raise!) and UGA gets a better DC. Then Mike Bobo leaves and Georgia hires an incompetent OC.

If UGA just found a good OC and kept this class together, they'd probably be a threat to win a national title once again.

As a UT Fan, I'm Torn

As much as I'd like to destroy Georgia for the next 10 years, I'm not sure that either option really yields that. Mark Richt's 2016 class is special and so long as he can replace Schottenheimer and find a quality OC, they'll be a threat to win the East again soon. On the other hand, if Georgia fires Richt, we may gain a short-term advantage, but they may end up with an even-better long-term coach like Justin Fuente.

I suppose as a UT fan, I'm hoping UGA fires Richt and then hires Kirby Smart, or some other unproven coordinator. That would be the best case scenario for us. I see UGA hiring Justin Fuente as the worst case scenario for us (particularly given his Memphis recruiting ties). And Mark Richt staying as a sort of middle ground.
 
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Good points. I'm torn like you, but hope if they fire him thst it blows up in their face.
 
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I truly believe Mark Richt is good guy, good morals, etc.

The world we live in is very impatient. I believe, after what we have been through, the prudent action for UGA would be to stay with Richt based on the very fact, pointed out by joevol33, that it could all blowup in their face and set them back 10 years. I would lean toward they are going to make a move.
 
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GA should only make the move if they know who they want and that that person wants the job. Although seeing them go through a few search debacles like we did wouldn't hurt my feelings.:)
 
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How many "great" classes has Ga hauled in that were supposed to really get them going? How many "great" qb's have they waisted? Christian LeMay, Brice Ramsey, Matthew Stafford, and Aaron Murray were all very highly rated and delivered what exactly for UGA in the way of championships?
 
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It's been a long time since UT got a really great qb prospect. Now, they have a few in the future headed this way possibly but nothing is concrete yet. The last great qb prospect UT had was probably Casey Clausen or Tee Martin. UT hasn't had a 5 * qb commit in a long, long time and I am not 100% sure if Clausen or Martin were.
 
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Well reasoned argument.

Sorry, but Richt always pulls a Richt. I just don't think he can put it all together.
 
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Don't count the walker years? Why not? He landed the kid. He won with the kid. What does Richts winning percentage look like if you take away his three best years!
 
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He's gone more than a decade without an SEC title. At what point does UGA have to acknowledge that that's unacceptable?
 
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UGA with Mark Richt is where Great players go to become average. There are some exceptions but so many highly recruited guys don't seem to work out at UGA. These are all the guys that were a 6.0 or higher on Rivals so a top 50-75 player and guys that should make an impact on the field. Its to early to see what happens to the 2014 and 2015 guys.
2010 Class
Jakar Hamilton 6.0 4* DB - I dont know anything about him
Alec Ogletree 6.0 4* DB - Solid Career at UGA
T.J. Stripling 6.0 4* DT - I dont know anything about him
2011 Class
Isaiah Crowell 6.1 5* RB - Dismissed from the team
Ray Drew 6.1 5* DE - I would think he didn't work out as well as they thought
Malcolm Mitchell 6.0 4* DB - Solid WR
2012 Class
Todd Gurley 6.0 4* RB - Beast
Josh Harvey-Clemons 6.1 5* ATH - Dismissed from the team
Jordan Jenkins 6.0 4* DE - I would say solid career
Keith Marshal 6.0 4* RB - Guy was a stud but injuries hurt him
John Theus 6.1 5* OL - I would say a solid career
2013 Class
Tray Matthews 6.0 4* DB - Dismissed from the team
2014 Class
Lorenzo Carter 6.0 4* DE - Looking to fill Floyds role
Nick Chubb 6.0 4* DE - Beast
Sony Michel 6.1 5* RB - He hasn't found his role yet and needs more opportunities with the ball in his hand
2015 Class
Terry Godwin 6.1 5* ATH - Learning the WR role and gaining playing time
Jonathan Ledbetter 6.0 4* DE - Maybe redshirting
Natrez Patrick 6.0 4* DE - Maybe redshirting
Rashad Roundtree 6.0 4* DB - Maybe redshirting
Trenton Thompson 6.1 5* DT- Guy is making plays
 
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Compare that to UT
2010 Class
DaRick Rodgers 6.1 5* WR - Solid while on the team but dismissed
2011 Class
No 6.0 players
2012 Class
Cordarrelle Patterson 6.0 4* WR - I think he lived up to his ranking
2013 Class
Marquez North 6.0 4* WR - Solid Freshman year then injuries, still has one season to improve
2014 Class
Dillion Bates 6.0 4* LB - Hasn't been able to find his role yet beside special teams
Jalen Hurd 6.1 5* RB - One of the top backs in the SEC
Todd Kelly 6.0 4* DB - Solid player and will start next couple years
Josh Malone 6.1 5* WR - Showing lots of promise lately of a great WR
LeVon Pearson 6.0 4* WR - Solid player at UT
2015 Class
Alvin Kamara 6.1 5* RB - Quick back with great hands
Kahil McKenzie 6.1 5* DL - Conditioning slowed him at first but hes playing now
Kyle Phillips 6.1 5* DE - Should be a starter opposite of Barnett next year
Drew Richmond 6.1 5* OL - Redshirting and hopefully a starting tackle for years to come
Shy Tuttle 6.0 4* DL - Solid season until UGA cut it short with the dirty play
 
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I think he's toast. It's been way too many years where the "Richt can't win the big one" label is talked about in the preseason. This year, all the talking heads on the SEC network picked them (with the exception of the big swagu).

And once again, they have stumbled badly.

Living on the rollercoaster ride that has been UT football over the last 7 seasons, it's EASY to have an out of body UGA experience and understand how that fan base is frustrated and suffering.

Granted - the injuries to potential Heisman running backs can't be dismissed in Chubb and Gurly. A back like either one of those guys can be the difference in a winning and losing season, however if you have all your eggs in one basket, a catastrophe can happen.

I barely follow GA, but watched the game because I really wanted Florida to lose. I was baffled by the new QB - hanging in there the whole game - throwing interceptions galore, when Lambert (who I thought looked pretty good in Knoxville) stood idly by. That is the sort of thing that the Monday morning quarterbacks slam a coach for - and makes them forget about the injuries.

Spurrier might have just had one last win. He hung up the jock strap before it got ugly. Is it too late for Richt to save face?
 
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I truly believe Mark Richt is good guy, good morals, etc.

The world we live in is very impatient. I believe, after what we have been through, the prudent action for UGA would be to stay with Richt based on the very fact, pointed out by joevol33, that it could all blowup in their face and set them back 10 years. I would lean toward they are going to make a move.

Yep. One example is all of the "win now" crowd that constantly calls for Butch's head on here.
 
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I can promise you they are looking at UT as a cautionary tale. I dont want the guy fired, he's the best thing we've got going for us right now.
 
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Right now you have two great coaches in waiting at Memphis and Houston. I think most experts agree that these guys are very talented young coaches who will be big time stars in the future at the right school. If UGA could land either one of them then they should go for it. Because if they don't some other school will.

What they can't afford is lousy timing with no good rising coaching candidates out there. In that case they would face getting turned down by established coaches and established schools (ie Pipe Dreams) and then getting desperate and pulling a WTF hire like Hamilton did.

And please, no more Kirby Smart hype. Hasn't Muschamp taught the world the danger of the way overhyped coordinator.
 
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If Butch is so great, why should we care who Georgia hires?

I mean, I would like for them to keep Richt for obvious reasons.
 
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Richt underachieves with his talent, period. Georgia is better than average usually, but rarely great, and no one fears them.
 

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