Why in the hell has Gary Patterson not been No.1 or 2?

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Yet we have to waste time with Gundy and Strong first? I like Strong, but Patterson was interested in the job the last 2 times around!!! WTF is going on in that Circus Tent on the Hill (UT Athletic Dept.).

Patterson is Brian Kelly 2.0. If he is not interested, make him say so publicly, otherwise Hart is not doing his damn job. Screw SEC recruiting/experience BS. That is why Hamilton passed on Sumlin and settled on Dooley, last time around.
 

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I agree. Sure, he might turn us down, but I'd feel more confident in going after a guy like that than one that is coaching for his alma mater. You have to at least call to ask if he'd take it for $4mil.
 
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I have no doubt Patterson was contacted if Gundy was. Patterson may have not had any desire to excite his fanbase by interviewing for a job he knew he was not interested in taking. Look at what Gundy and Strong did to their fans by even taking the interview. He makes great money and TCU has improved just about everything at TCU facilities wise. I think he is just happy in FT Worth.
 
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I would personally think they had... but this is a damned if you do or damned if you don't situation. Would you really want even more coaches to publicly turn us down? I can't say this for sure but neither can you on your end... but I'd bet money they put the feelers out in a private/backdoor way through his agent, and he probably slammed the door shut.

I know rumors are that he expressed interest back for the Dooley or Kiffin hire, but that amazes me because I remember a big to do around that time about he and Peterson explicitly saying they were happy right where they were at as they didn't want to deal with the BS pressure a high profile coaching job would bring. (And I honestly can say I don't blame them)
 
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First, how do you know UT didn't reach out to him? You don't.

Second, what good does it do to make him publicly say no? That's real smart...have another coach publicly turn you down.
 
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I would agree. Another name I've been putting out there is David Shaw at Stanford. Everyone has been saying he's not leaving Stanford but has anyone even asked him? I haven't seen him come out publicly and say he's not interested.
 
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I have been asking this same question for 2 weeks. I assumed he would not leave TCU. But throw some money his way and see what happens!!!
 
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I don't mind a coach publicly turning us down, if he's a top level guy like Patterson. Look what happened at Arkansas. They got turned down by loads of top candidates, but they kept going until they landed a great top notch guy.

Hart, on the other hand, just went straight for the second tier guys. And it is sort of embarassing to get turned down by them.

Why did Hart bypass the top level guys? Maybe he was afraid of rejection, maybe he was just lazy, or maybe they weren't on the list his buddy Nick Saban gave him. Whatever the reason, Hart is incompetent and needs to be fired before he makes an awful hire that we're stuck with for several years.
 
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Patterson isn't interested in leaving TCU...He would only use us for a big raise...Period
 
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I heard Hamilton interviewed him when Kiffin was hired. From what I understand, Hammy basically told him he was not UT material.
 
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Red Forman said:
And you have absolutely zero knowledge or facts to back that up.
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Um, yes I do. I have reports in all sorts of media outlets by all sorts of respected sports journalists that offers were made to Gundy and Strong, while there are no reports of offers made to top level coaching candidates.
 
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oregonvol said:
Um, yes I do. I have reports in all sorts of media outlets by all sorts of respected sports journalists that offers were made to Gundy and Strong, while there are no reports of offers made to top level coaching candidates.
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Again, you have zero knowledge of who UT reached out to. You have an opinion, but not facts.
 
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oregonvol said:
Um, yes I do. I have reports in all sorts of media outlets by all sorts of respected sports journalists that offers were made to Gundy and Strong, while there are no reports of offers made to top level coaching candidates.
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:eek:lol:
 
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I think Hart got dialed in on those four guys that have publicly turned the job down(Gruden, Fisher, Strong, Gundy) and has no plan B.

I expect it to be quiet for the weekend while he and Cheek reconvene in the Bat Cave.

Can't wait to see the b list from these guys. Most of the "hot" names like Hazell, Dykes, and Doeren have already been snatched up.

Back to the OP, Patterson should have been in the first round of phone calls IMO.

Whether he was or not, only Hart, or Cheek, or whoever is actually running this debacle knows.

I don't see what being embarrassed publicly again is gonna hurt at this point. Make him say no out loud.
 
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Red Forman said:
Again, you have zero knowledge of who UT reached out to. You have an opinion, but not facts.
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So, you're saying that you don't believe Strong turned down an offer from UT? ESPN is just making that up? Or they just didn't report all the offers we made to Petersen, Patterson, Chip Kelly, etc.?

Yeah, I guess we can all just choose to believe whatever we want as long as it makes Hart seem competent.
 
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Seriously people just frankly don't get it. Patterson isn't leaving tcu. Money isn't the issue. He's reported to be in the 3.5 range already. He's in a stable program that he built himself and took through the conference maze to the big 12. His ultimate goal. He's lived in FTW for yrs and his family is established there. FTW is a great place to live and growing right now. Trust me if UL can beat us back from strong trust me tcu will embarrass us even more. Plenty of Oil money flowing through FTW. The list can go on and on and on but if you can't get the above through ur heads then it's pointless.

Now don't come back and say I'm an idiot. Especially if your only comeback is...we r Tennessee and and and we r in the SEC. The guy was reportly turned down for Kiffin so thinking he is someone we can publicly contact is just foolish.

With that said...Patterson is on the top of my list and have said it before. Peterson too. Just being frank and realistic. Some of y'all need to look that word up and really learn it. Now though I don't think he'll leave anything can happen and if hart were to pull it off he'd be AD of the century IMO. Just the chance seriously is .00000000000......0000001%

Move on from this guy. Seriously the more people bring him up as someone we seriously have a shot at makes us look worse.....if that's even possible ATP. :cray:
 
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oregonvol said:
So, you're saying that you don't believe Strong turned down an offer from UT? ESPN is just making that up? Or they just didn't report all the offers we made to Petersen, Patterson, Chip Kelly, etc.?

Yeah, I guess we can all just choose to believe whatever we want as long as it makes Hart seem competent.
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You said Hart went straight to second tier coaches. I said you have no knowledge or facts to back that up.

This isn't about Hart being competent or not. It's about you expressing opinions as facts.
 
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Red Forman said:
You said Hart went straight to second tier coaches. I said you have no knowledge or facts to back that up.

This isn't about Hart being competent or not. It's about you expressing opinions as facts.
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There is no evidence to suggest that Hart went anywhere else. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Hart went straight to second tier guys.
 
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This has to be a joke. We probably had a better chance with Fisher, Gundy and Strong than prying Patterson away from TCU. If he goes anywhere it's Texas if and when they can Brown.
 
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My old highschool football coach never played football, scholarshipped to a college for baseball, yet he has a powerhouse program...

Maybe we should start looking at other sports for great coaches... cannot be embarrassed anymore than we have been... they can only say "no".

Although if it were me I would have also heavily checked the NFL..

The first 4 options, minus Gruden, were not extensive enough. Screw not having a coach by national signing day. This does not need to be rushed, but it needs to be clear.
 
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