Why is Georgia Tech Not a Powerhouse?

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I was just think about GT b/c we play them first next year and I'm an senior engineering student. Thinking about getting my masters there. Idk about the college as a whole but their engineering programs are the best in the south and some of the best in the country.

When I watched Houston take down Oklahoma in week 1 they talked about how Houston has been able to recruit (for the most part) within 50 miles campus. GT is smack dab in the middle of Atlanta, which seems to produce more high quality recruits than anywhere else in the country.

I understand UGA is right next door, but I just can't understand what is holding GT back. I think they should do what Houston is doing, only recruit Atl and surrounding suburbs (Atl is a big city) they shouldn't even go after players outside of 100 miles from campus unless they reach out.

To me it's almost to late for GT b/c Atlanta has turned into the bread basket of the SEC and ACC.

I'm sure most of their players are local, but what prevented.prevents them from getting high quality players?
 
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could be they use the triple option offense -- alot of HS players dont see it much Just guessing
 
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508mikey said:
could be they use the triple option offense -- alot of HS players dont see it much Just guessing
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I don't understand that either, but I feel like it's a result of not being good in the past, so the hired a coach who runs a gimmick offense. If they ran the triple option out of shot gun like Oregon did/does. Then they would be fine, but no WR in their right mind would go there right now.
 
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I'd guess that it's one of those things involving academic standards. I don't know if/ how much they knock them down for athletes. Just a thought. I would think that they'd have huge potential, if they can figure out the recruiting.

One problem with college athletes in STEM courses: those damn labs, that eat up so many afternoons. Scheduling your classes can be a nightmare.
 
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VolNExile said:
I'd guess that it's one of those things involving academic standards. I don't know if/ how much they knock them down for athletes. Just a thought. I would think that they'd have huge potential, if they can figure out the recruiting.

One problem with college athletes in STEM courses: those damn labs, that eat up so many afternoons. Scheduling your classes can be a nightmare.
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My physics lab can suck a fat one.
 
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It is a very nerdy school. The male students tend to me more awkward and the coeds, which are few and far between (~30%), tend to not be very attractive.

Couple that with having to play in the ACC vs the SEC (a lot of kids want to play in the SEC). In addition, you have UGA, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Clemson, and Florida carving up your recruiting ground.
 
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Who the hell would want to go to school in Atlanta?

The answer is academics. And once upon a time, GT was one of our biggest rivals.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
It is a very nerdy school. The male students tend to me more awkward and the coeds, which are few and far between (~30%), tend to not be very attractive.

Couple that with having to play in the ACC vs the SEC (a lot of kids want to play in the SEC). In addition, you have UGA, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Clemson, and Florida carving up your recruiting ground.
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This made me laugh out loud.
 
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Now give Georgia state some time, they're right there also minus the academic quality of tech. Not sayits not a good academic school, but the smarter kids would be at tech.
 
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GA Tech has some of the toughest academic standards in the nation. It's in the same league as Stanford and Duke except that GA Tech has more of a tradition for success in football (albeit, one that seems increasingly distant these days). It's also very STEM-heavy, so it's only suited for certain types of student-athletes. It's an excellent school, but just difficult to find top-notch athletes that are also academically gifted and fit the school's overall STEM profile.

(Interesting, though, Josh Dobbs would be the almost ideal fit for Georgia Tech.)
 
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This question has been asked as long as I can remember. It's literally a 50 year hangover from the worst decision they ever made which was to walk away from the SEC in 1960s.

It's a neat campus in a good town with great academics. But it's the ACC and they're never going to spend the money to really get things rolling.
 
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joevol33 said:
Now give Georgia state some time, they're right there also minus the academic quality of tech. Not sayits not a good academic school, but the smarter kids would be at tech.
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Going to be interesting to see how far Ga State can go. They're about to buy the Turner Field property from the Braves and turn it into a football stadium, and build a baseball field next to it in the old Fulton County Stadium footprint.
 
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VolNExile said:
I'd guess that it's one of those things involving academic standards. I don't know if/ how much they knock them down for athletes. Just a thought. I would think that they'd have huge potential, if they can figure out the recruiting.

One problem with college athletes in STEM courses: those damn labs, that eat up so many afternoons. Scheduling your classes can be a nightmare.
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You don't have to major in STEM there though. They have a business and a liberal arts school. My guess is that you'll find a disproportionate number of athletes in those majors.

Plenty of other institutions have high academic standards and good football programs - Notre Dame and Stanford come to mind. I think running a gimmick offense for the last 9 years has hurt them more than anything else as far as the athletes that they are able to pull in. Demaryius Thomas and Calvin Johnson did go there though.

I think a school that is more of a head scratcher as to why they aren't a football powerhouse is North Carolina. Other than the fact that they are a basketball school, why can't they be consistently better at football? North Carolina should be able to be a Michigan State-type of school and be good at both.
 
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I went down there for the Mercer game a few weeks ago and Bobby Dodd honestly reminded me of a bigger/closed version of Austin Peay's football stadium. I don't know what their other facilities look like, supposedly they got new everything in '94 with the Olympics. Supposedly Ga Tech added this major a few years ago to grease the skids for admitting good football players B.S. in History, Technology, and Society - Georgia Tech - Atlanta so don't think that they're above getting in the mud when it comes to recruiting.
 
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I live in Atlanta and in and around Atlanta you are only a GT fan if, UGA, Braves, and Falcons all are having bad seasons, and you do not have a bandwagon school backup, and/or alumni.
 
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It has the Vandy problem.

Shares the state with a better program. despite being in a big town the number of un associated fans (non alumn or family) is disproportionately slanted to the other school. Georgia has had more success and more recent than Tech. as someone else pointed out Atlanta is a transplant city, and it has a pro-football team to take away from local support.

and there are the other things people have brought up, academics and weird offense, SEC vs ACC.
 
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LouderVol said:
It has the Vandy problem.

Shares the state with a better program. despite being in a big town the number of un associated fans (non alumn or family) is disproportionately slanted to the other school. Georgia has had more success and more recent than Tech. as someone else pointed out Atlanta is a transplant city, and it has a pro-football team to take away from local support.

and there are the other things people have brought up, academics and weird offense, SEC vs ACC.
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Don't forget Auburn either. There are a ton of Auburn people in Atlanta. It doesn't seem like it because it is in another state, but Auburn is basically as far away from Atlanta as Athens is.
 
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also in state representation. Tech is barely over 50% in state. UGA is 87%. and I don't know the history but UGA has about 10k more students than tech. so again more support.

also UGA is cheaper than Tech, and us plebs tend to be more into football than the hoytie toyties. again slanting support.
 
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