Why lie??

[gsvol]

In his 1925 autobiography, Mein Kampf, Adolph Hitler wrote that people would assume that an outrageous lie must be true because no one would have the audacity to have made it up. Later, that propaganda technique evolved into: If a big lie is repeated enough times it will become widely accepted as truth.

This bit of Nazi propaganda is being used today by the Palestinians. Their Big Lie is preached from the pulpits of the mosques and in the classrooms of their madrasas -- and more and more of the untutored masses are believing it.

What is the Palestinian Big Lie?

(lot's of interesting historical information about Jerusalem.)

Makes perfect sense … in Palestine.

 

[J-P]

As long as people have the Scriptures, the world will know they are lies. At some point the temple will be rebuilt and sacrifices will begin again, but I'm not enough of a prophecy expert to know whether Al Aqsa qualifies as "the temple rebuilt".

At the risk of exposing your thread to hijacking, I'd hate to be them come Judgement Day.

 

[IPorange]

So isotope dating can be used to prove things in the Bible correct, but it can't be used to prove things incorrect? Interesting.

 

[Gramps]

In his 1925 autobiography, Mein Kampf, Adolph Hitler wrote that people would assume that an outrageous lie must be true because no one would have the audacity to have made it up. Later, that propaganda technique evolved into: If a big lie is repeated enough times it will become widely accepted as truth.

Sounds like the Bush 43 administration.

 

[gsvol]

As long as people have the Scriptures, the world will know they are lies. At some point the temple will be rebuilt and sacrifices will begin again, but I'm not enough of a prophecy expert to know whether Al Aqsa qualifies as "the temple rebuilt".

At the risk of exposing your thread to hijacking, I'd hate to be them come Judgement Day.

A few years ago at Christmas I had the opportunity to talk at length with an Arab Christian living in Bethlehem which is under muslim rule.

I wanted to know what it was like for a Christian in Bethlehem and he said it grows steadly worse and that most Christians have left.

For those who decide to stay, there can be no outward sign of one's faith whatsoever otherwise gangs of thugs will tear up and destroy property and severely beat the offender and his family, maybe even burn down the house. Those in authority are no help, no point in going to them or even the UN.

If one is in business there can be no visible evidence of Christian belief, to display a cross in the window of one's home is forbidden and even the traditional candle in the window on Christmas eve is also a thing of the past.

Christian children can't go out and play in public becasue they will be beat up or even kidnapped, they must be accompanied by an adult in public at all times.

Not only in Bethlehem but throughout most of the world where islam is prevelent, Christian girls are kidnapped, raped and then told they are now married to a muslim man. Going to court almost universially means the judge will accept the word of the man that the marriage was consensual.

In his 1925 autobiography, Mein Kampf, Adolph Hitler wrote that people would assume that an outrageous lie must be true because no one would have the audacity to have made it up. Later, that propaganda technique evolved into: If a big lie is repeated enough times it will become widely accepted as truth.

Sounds like the Bush 43 administration.

True in some respects but nothing to compare with all the crap thrown his way by the opposing party and he looks to be rank amateur in the field of propaganda if you take the least bit of time to examine that these two are saying and have said.

 

[KB5252]

In his 1925 autobiography, Mein Kampf, Adolph Hitler wrote that people would assume that an outrageous lie must be true because no one would have the audacity to have made it up. Later, that propaganda technique evolved into: If a big lie is repeated enough times it will become widely accepted as truth.

Sounds like the Bush 43 administration.

Let's be intellectually honest and admit that this applies to all presidents, the current one included.

 

[gsvol]

So isotope dating can be used to prove things in the Bible correct, but it can't be used to prove things incorrect? Interesting.

Just what have you disproven??

Let's be intellectually honest and admit that this applies to all presidents, the current one included.

Partially true, some though are pathological liars, incapable of ever telling the truth about anything.

One example off the top of my head would be Jimmy Carter who claimed to have served on a USN nuclear submarine even though he was out of the Navy two years before we launched our first one.

He also takes the side of the Palistinians on this topic, so do Barry and Hitlary.

 

[Gramps]

Let's be intellectually honest and admit that this applies to all presidents, the current one included.

That is very true. IMO Bush took it to a new level.

 

[KB5252]

That is very true. IMO Bush took it to a new level.

Your entitled to your opinion, I will say that perhaps the man who had the most trouble with the truth was Clinton. Overall I think he was a pretty good president save a couple of issues but the man made a living playing fast and loose with the truth.

 

[rjd970]

Your entitled to your opinion, I will say that perhaps the man who had the most trouble with the truth was Clinton. Overall I think he was a pretty good president save a couple of issues but the man made a living playing fast and loose with the truth.

I can see where you're coming from with Clinton, but I don't think he was that much worse with some of the stuff that went down during the Bush years. I think Bush's problem was he was too stupid to realize he was getting bad information much of the time and the power brokers of his administration (Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, etc) defined priorities and agendas more so than he did.

As far as Obama is concerned, I don't think he is that bad outside of the healthcare strong-arming and fearmongering. There really is no excuse for what he is doing on that front. I couldn't care less about the climate stuff he his peddling, but I could see that being an area of concern for most people.

 

[utvolpj]

I couldn't care less about the climate stuff he his peddling, but I could see that being an area of concern for most people.

the stupid amount of money he's promising to spend on it is what worries me. He's using our checkbook

 

[BeecherVol]

the stupid amount of money he's promising to spend on it is what worries me. He's using our checkbook

It will start a trend. That will not end with just climate change/ control issues.
It will futher push us into a service based country, instead of product based (which we are headed toward anyway). That will push even more industry type jobs to China suchplaces.

And as you said, will hurt our checkbooks in the process. In more than 1 way.

 

[gsvol]

Way to stay on topic guys.

Someone once said; "Great minds discuss ideas, mediocre minds discuss people and little minds talk about things."

What bothers me most is that this sort of propaganda is now being taught in America.

 

[J-P]

I heartily agree with the concern about our younger generations being propagandized. Not just on this topic, either. However, I also see that the propaganda tends to wear off as people age. Reality is a thorough schoolmaster. You can almost tell the folks fresh out of college by their political ideas, which for the most part are usually regurgitations of the ideas that they heard in class discussions or from their professors.

Another very positive thing, in my opinion, is the increasing number of parents who are taking the time to home school their children. These children seem to develop the abilities for independent critical thinking quicker than their federally schooled counterparts.

 

[arTfuldodger]

I want RR back! No joke!In all seriousness, I think that the fed gov is attempting this type of thing so far as global warming is concerened. The high profile scientists that go along with it do so bc they receive all the funds for their carreer projects and such. A scientist that disputes their theory, gets significally less federal funding. BTW, great discussion by everyone, wish the football threads could do the same.e=1]Posted via VolNation Mobile[/size]

 

[gsvol]

I want RR back! No joke!In all seriousness, I think that the fed gov is attempting this type of thing so far as global warming is concerened. The high profile scientists that go along with it do so bc they receive all the funds for their carreer projects and such. A scientist that disputes their theory, gets significally less federal funding. BTW, great discussion by everyone, wish the football threads could do the same.e=1]Posted via VolNation Mobile[/size]

“…the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”

Dwight Eisenhower.

 

[gsvol]

I heartily agree with the concern about our younger generations being propagandized. Not just on this topic, either. However, I also see that the propaganda tends to wear off as people age. Reality is a thorough schoolmaster. You can almost tell the folks fresh out of college by their political ideas, which for the most part are usually regurgitations of the ideas that they heard in class discussions or from their professors.

Another very positive thing, in my opinion, is the increasing number of parents who are taking the time to home school their children. These children seem to develop the abilities for independent critical thinking quicker than their federally schooled counterparts.

How right you are.

IMO the very best program is the Beka Program from Pensacola Baptis College, by seventh grade students are oing college level work.

Done correctly, kids can learn to really enjoy learning instead of the way most public school kids think of school work as drudgery, dull and boring.