Why not Cutcliffe?

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indyvol15

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Not only did he produce talent,he was instrumental in getting it here..The problem now is not getting talent here,but we have no one producing it. Before you johnny come lately's start throwing out Peyton, Heath, and Tee also remember he was QB coach before OC and worked with Jeff Francis, Andy Kelly and Tony Robinson Oh and lets not forget the job he did in Peytons freshman year when Jerry Colquitt got hurt 6 plays into the UCLA game and hmmmm Todd Helton came in and played well and almost got the comback win...It's not wise to go outside the box in this case when one of the best is right under our noses...We need new blood my A$$, there is not a soul here that is willing to go thru another year or two for a team to get use to another system....The system is NOT the problem!!!!! the execution and discipline IS!!!! and yes that does fall upon the coaches...While Cutt was the OC I thought RS did a good job with the backs and recievers....
 
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i like Dave, but i would rather have a younger guy that will bring a high power offense and open things up. i don't think it will happen though.
 
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Why would you want David C.
If I have to see one more wide reciecer screen pass to the
sidline for a net gain of 2 yards I'll puke.
We need new blood no UT ties.
 
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The fact that Cutcliffe turned Heath Shuler into a Heisman candidate (2nd place finish during junior season) is enough for me to say that Cutcliffe can develop alot better quarterbacks than Sanders. And the fact that everyone is raving about how much of a genius Notre Dame's Charlie Weis is and he wanted Cutcliffe as his quarterbacks coach! That is a resounding affirmation on a resume.

Past 6 QBs include: Andy Kelly (NFLEL/ AFL career passing leader), Heath Shuler (1st QB taken in NFL draft), Tee Martin (NFL/CFL), Peyton Manning (NFL MVP, 1st pick in NFL draft), Romaro Miller (NFL/CFL), and Eli Manning (NFL, 1st pick in NFL draft).
 
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New blood,new blood,new blood phewy, Coach Cutcliff is a first rate coach. He is a QB guru. And if our QB's would have played worth a crap this season we wouldn't be 3-4. Any new OC would still be under Fulmers control. Fulmer want's a ground crontrol, play action passing system. I believe he will let Cutcliff have complete control over the offense, something Sanders never had.
 
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Originally posted by wid73cam@Nov 3, 2005 3:00 PM
Why would you want David C.
If I have to see one more wide reciecer screen pass to the
sidline for a net gain of 2 yards I'll puke.
We need new blood no UT ties.
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So basically you would be willing to throw away a year maybe two to learn a new system? That might be ok in the big ten or other conferences,but this is UT and .500 or less seasons are not acceptable.....I would suggest you take a look back at some stats on how the offense performed under DC....Actually no need to do that because I am quite sure that at no time during the DC era did the offense EVER rank 109 out of 118 in the country....
 
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Coach Cut for OC in 2006!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rock:
 
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Originally posted by swami2302@Nov 3, 2005 3:53 PM
New blood,new blood,new blood phewy,  Coach Cutcliff is a first rate coach.  He is a QB guru.  And if our QB's would have played worth a crap this season we wouldn't be 3-4.  Any new OC would still be under Fulmers control.  Fulmer want's a ground crontrol, play action passing system.  I believe he will let Cutcliff have complete control over the offense, something Sanders never had.
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The key is trust. CPF, wants a guy that he can turn the Offense over to, as he's been able to do with Chavis and the Defense.
Be it DC or else, I think the new OC will bring a lot of resources to the UT table from position coaching, to player development.

 
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Dave C. is a great guy, but we shouldn't bring him back as OC...Maybe as a recruiter (did land the Manning boys), but his energy level is low and schemes are outdated...I'd like to see some OC's that run the West Coast Offense come to UT...One guy to ck out is Gary Kubiak from the Denver Broncos...Denver has always been strong offensively and he has Super Bowl level coaching experience...A NFL type coach would help recruiting as well...Lastly, is only 44 yrs, not too young or old!!
 
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Originally posted by destin1983@Nov 3, 2005 10:53 PM
Dave C. is a great guy, but we shouldn't bring him back as OC...Maybe as a recruiter (did land the Manning boys), but his energy level is low and schemes are outdated...I'd like to see some OC's that run the West Coast Offense come to UT...One guy to ck out is Gary Kubiak from the Denver Broncos...Denver has always been strong offensively and he has Super Bowl level coaching experience...A NFL type coach would help recruiting as well...Lastly, is only 44 yrs, not too young or old!!
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How long did it take him to get Plummer going???? 2 or 3 years? Thats what I'm saying, we need an instant jolt.
 
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Didn't we get rid of this guy once? NEVER go backwards when you can go forward.

For all the good it will do, get someone NEW. Perhaps, CPF will give the guy some rein and quit being stubborn.





 
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what about a trade????


How bout we trade "old decrepid walking pumpkin" Phillip Fulmer for....... "young sexy" Phillip Fulmer?????

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sorry but all the sudgestions and rumors of changing head coaches has got me on the sarcastic side....
 
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How soon we forget that Cutcliffe's head was on the chopping block in the 90's! We were all hoping Sanders would open up the offense in '99 and beyond. He opened it up against Florida State, and then closed it right back up again. Cutcliffe is a good coach, but I would personally like to see someone who can view the program from an outsider's perspective. There is a lot to be said for tradition, but it becomes a stumbling block when you can't see past the 'T'.
 
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I am not speaking for or against the coaching abilities of David Cutcliffe. But, everybody spits out all these numbers under him and much better they were back then. He had Heath Shuler and Peyton Manning. Do you think Cutcliffe had THAT much to do with those two QB's turning out to be so good? You don't think Manning could have developed into a great QB under ANY offensive coord in the country. On the other hand, even under Charlie Weiss Casey Clausen would have never been Shuler or Manning. There was an obvious differnce in talent and intelligence at the QB position under Cutcliffe.
 
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Originally posted by therickbol@Nov 4, 2005 10:53 AM
I am not speaking for or against the coaching abilities of David Cutcliffe. But, everybody spits out all these numbers under him and much better they were back then. He had Heath Shuler and Peyton Manning. Do you think Cutcliffe had THAT much to do with those two QB's turning out to be so good? You don't think Manning could have developed into a great QB under ANY offensive coord in the country. On the other hand, even under Charlie Weiss Casey Clausen would have never been Shuler or Manning. There was an obvious differnce in talent and intelligence at the QB position under Cutcliffe.
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I believe he also was QB coach for Andy kelly didnt Todd Helton start after colquitt got hurt...I believe he did a good job with those guys to...Face it he can take a good QB and make them better..He made sure the offense was all on the same page...That was missing over the last 7 years...It's not the scheme it's the lack of continuity,and if you dont have that it doesnt matter who the OC is.....
 
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At least 2 posts saying that Cutcliffe was on the chopping block and/or fired from Tennessee in '98. Get your facts straight guys. He was a highly regarded and took the head coaching position at Ole Miss. People were scared that the Vols would get destroyed in the BCS Championship game against Florida State because Cutcliffe left and Sanders was calling the plays. In 1999, fans were hoping that Sanders would be a good OC because he was an unknown.
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 4, 2005 12:02 PM
Been there done that!
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Been there done that! won a national championship.... [insert sarcasm...] why would we want another one of those?
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 4, 2005 12:02 PM
Been there done that!
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At least we know DC is a good coach. I am a helluva lot more comfortable with a proven offensive mind (see Charlie Weiss) than some new blood that is going to take a little time to get it going
 
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Cuts fine with me although the thought of a successful o/c from the nfl?cool
 
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Weiss is probably the hottest coaching commoditry out there right now and he thought enough of Cut to call him up to be his OC and QB guy. That's big, but not as big as perhaps it looks since Weiss probably would have dictated his own offenseive philosophy to Cut.
 
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Originally posted by allvol@Nov 3, 2005 3:14 PM
The fact that Cutcliffe turned Heath Shuler into a Heisman candidate (2nd place finish during junior season) is enough for me to say that Cutcliffe can develop alot better quarterbacks than Sanders.  And the fact that everyone is raving about how much of a genius Notre Dame's Charlie Weis is and he wanted Cutcliffe as his quarterbacks coach!  That is a resounding affirmation on a resume.

Past 6 QBs include:  Andy Kelly (NFLEL/ AFL career passing leader), Heath Shuler (1st QB taken in NFL draft), Tee Martin (NFL/CFL), Peyton Manning (NFL MVP, 1st pick in NFL draft), Romaro Miller (NFL/CFL), and Eli Manning (NFL, 1st pick in NFL draft).
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Bingo!

Charly Weis would still hire Cutcliffe in a heartbeat. (No pun intended David)

Cutcliffe is the best QB coach in the nation.

For all the rednecks who keep crying about Cutcliffe being a part of the inbreeding at Tennessee, Cut was reared in Bama, graduated from Bama, and coached HS in Bama.

He's not a Tennessee boy. But he's a Tennessee legend.

We should go after him big time.
 
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David C divorced himself from UT when he went to Ole Miss, glad to have him visit and all, but think of this like most Big Business, rarely do you hire back your EX-CIO etc...Need some fresh ideas...
 
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