Will the Swedish welfare state collapse??

[gsvol]

Swedish Welfare State Collapses as Immigrants Wage War | The Brussels Journal

In one of the rare instances where the Swedish media actually revealed the truth, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported several years ago that 9 out of 10 of the most criminal ethnic groups in Sweden came from Muslim countries.

 

[DC Vol]

It will be interesting to see how such a secular country handles this issue.


Though, I have to say this:

Most of the Islamic immigrants to the US had a level of influence in their former country. Most of the Islamic immigrants to Europe are from lower castes in war-torn countries and bringing their wars with them. Minnesota is having the same problem with the influx of Somalians.

 

[volinbham]

Increasing diversity (on many dimensions) puts a strain on these social contract countries. That and increasing population.

A country like Norway has a small, relatively homogenous population and the country has massive oil revenues. It's all fine and dandy until you have large scale immigration with people of different values, cultures, work ethics, etc.

 

[gsvol]

It will be interesting to see how such a secular country handles this issue.


Though, I have to say this:

Most of the Islamic immigrants to the US had a level of influence in their former country. Most of the Islamic immigrants to Europe are from lower castes in war-torn countries and bringing their wars with them. Minnesota is having the same problem with the influx of Somalians.

In other secular European countries things seem to be going from bad to worse concerning their immigration policies, particularly from moslem dominant countries.

Various measures have been taken, in Switzerland they have banned any more minarets being built, in Denmark they have banned any more mosques, at least in Copenhagen.

France seems to be losing territory to islamic dominated areas where moslems actually rule and even the French police don't venture.

Britian seems to be taking appeasement to insane lengths.

The Netherlands, Belgium and Germany are facing the same sorts of problems.

While what you say is true of Amerca vs Europe, still we have been admitting around 100,000 moslem immigrants for the past forty years, not counting illegals and we really have no idea how many children have been born to those moslem immigrants, so if you look at the history of other nations who have had vastly growing numbers of moslem citizens you invaribly see a pattern of increasing islamization of the host country.

Increasing diversity (on many dimensions) puts a strain on these social contract countries. That and increasing population.

A country like Norway has a small, relatively homogenous population and the country has massive oil revenues. It's all fine and dandy until you have large scale immigration with people of different values, cultures, work ethics, etc.

Norway has also had it's share of problems with moslem immigrants, even if Norway can afford to foot the bill for it's welfare state, you still see cultural pressure such as rape by young moslem gangs who are promoting the values of the country from which they migrated.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Increasing diversity (on many dimensions) puts a strain on these social contract countries. That and increasing population.

A country like Norway has a small, relatively homogenous population and the country has massive oil revenues. It's all fine and dandy until you have large scale immigration with people of different values, cultures, work ethics, etc.

This has been what I have thought for the last 10 years or so. The more diverse the people, the less "community" connections you have between the competing groups. A homogeneous society will at least have common goals and common standards to motivate people to work for the collective.

 

[gsvol]

This has been what I have thought for the last 10 years or so. The more diverse the people, the less "community" connections you have between the competing groups. A homogeneous society will at least have common goals and common standards to motivate people to work for the collective.

The following, which is chock full of very good references to recent books, is also along the lines of your thinking with which I very much agree.

An article I highly recomment as a MUST READ.

Gates of Vienna: Book Review: “The Perils of Diversity”

I have contributed a chapter in Norwegian to the book Selvmordsparadigmet (“The Suicide Paradigm”), published in 2010 by Ole J. Anfindsen, who runs the website Honest Thinking. Anfindsen believes that the Western world is in the process of committing suicide, and that the ruling ideology after the Second World War, especially from the 1960s on, has been suicidal. His main emphasis is not on Islam but on Politically Correct censorship and the Multiculturalism of Western oligarchs. The same is true of my contribution to his book.

The following quotes with page references are taken from the recent book The Perils of Diversity: Immigration and Human Nature by Byron M. Roth, a Professor Emeritus of Psychology from the USA.

That is not to say I totally disagree with multiculturalism, I do think it is a good thing to a certain extent but I disagree when it goes way overboard as is happening today and becomes overwhelming to host societies and another thing is that is is a one way street, if I tried to immigrate to many places and take along my own culture and value system I would most likely meet with an early demise. (or is it too late for that?) :loco:

 

[VOLatile]

I could easily assimilate with Norway/Sweden/Denmark/Finland because of my culture and that I've idolized them for so long. Middle Eastern people, not so much. Sweden's open arms may very well be the downfall of their social economic structure.

 

[gsvol]

Pajamas Media Yes, Islamists Are Coming Through Mexico

The 9/11 Commission Report warned of terrorists entering the U.S. clandestinely through the Mexican border as well as the Canadian border, and called for heightened border security to combat that threat. But efforts by conservatives to secure our borders have been met with much resistance, with opponents calling the threats overblown and in many cases racist. To put that warning into context: just recently an Iranian book celebrating suicide bombers was found in the Arizona desert by Border Patrol agents patrolling known smuggling routes near the Mexican border.
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"There are individuals from countries with known al-Qaeda connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish, and pretending to be Hispanic."

The last statement was made to congress some time ago by the director of the FBI before congress, how long will it take the American people to wake up to waht is going on.

What is the thinking behind the present administration in the white house and it's collection of social misfits it calls presidential advisors???