Will UT be in the top 25 at seasons end?

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#2
#2
This schedule is just awful, but I still think we can pull it together. Never has there been a better timed off week.
 
#3
#3
ya i think so. if we have 4 losses we may squeak in but it will help that the losses were to sweet teams.
 
#4
#4
My vote would be for "it doesn't matter anymore" but that's obviously not an option so I say no.

Unless some adjustments/changes are made, this is going to be a long rest of the season.
 
#5
#5
I really think the season is done except for 1 thing...and 1 thing only...we must beat Bama. Even a bowl bid is a moot point except from a $ standpoint for the university. Its now our turn to play spoiler and take all our slaughtered hopes out on the tide. Id rather lose to vandy and kentucky than lose to Bama.
 
#6
#6
not a chance. will loose to alabama knocking us out of the top 25. we will loose to notre dame and play down to one of the lesser opponets and get beat and also get beat in the bowl game. conservative ball allows you to loose the game and fullmer is getting better and better at that.
 
#7
#7
My thought is that we may squeak out a bowl victory in some December bowl that might slide us into 24th or 23rd. I think at the very least we'll loose to Bama or ND; quite possibly both.
 
#8
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Bama is coming to this game with only one thought - beat Tennesee as bad or worse than they beat Florida. The crowd will be insane and beyond hostile. I just don't think this team has anything to take to Tuscaloosa to come out with a win. I still love 'em, but the orange glasses are off.
 
#9
#9
I know things look bad, but we've got to get out of this defeatist attitude. No matter how bad our offense plays, we've got a good defense and good athletes which means we've got a shot against anybody.
 
#10
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 9, 2005 10:30 PM
I know things look bad, but we've got to get out of this defeatist attitude.  No matter how bad our offense plays, we've got a good defense and good athletes which means we've got a shot against  anybody.
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You're right Georgie!

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#11
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Id rather lose to vandy and kentucky than lose to Bama.


I am completely with you on that one. I doubt that Bama will overlook us. We have two weeks to put together some schemes. Let's Go Vols!
 
#12
#12
Sure they will be Top 25, but barely.

Losses so far
Gators - LOST - Top 5 when we played them
LSU - WIN - top 5 when we played them
Georgia - LOST - top 5 when we played them

The rest, how i see it
@ Alabama - LOSS to another top 5 team
South Carolina - WIN
@ Notre Dame - LOSS to another top 10 team
Memphis - WIN - always close
Vanderbilt - WIN - will be close
@ Kentucky - WIN - blow out

7-4 FINISH, no way around this one. Is that good enough for the Peach Bowl????? and probably a top 25 standing.

 
#13
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Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 9, 2005 10:04 PM
not a chance.  will loose to alabama knocking us out of the top 25.  we will loose to notre dame and play down to one of the lesser opponets and get beat and also get beat in the bowl game.  conservative ball allows you to loose the game and fullmer is getting better and better at that.
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COnservative ball? What excatly do you want us to do on offense? We opened up the middle, we threw it as far down the field as we could. We are running/passing out of a shotgun 3 wide. Do you want flee flickers and double reverses? I just don't know what offense people want. I watched the Pac 10 play and i saw one thing different-better execution. USC flat out executes thier plays, catches thier passes, and gets thier blocks. WE need to get it done and we will win.
 
#14
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 9, 2005 10:30 PM
I know things look bad, but we've got to get out of this defeatist attitude.  No matter how bad our offense plays, we've got a good defense and good athletes which means we've got a shot against  anybody.
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AMEN and thanks. Geez, some positive energy :bow:
 
#15
#15
big daddy i have seen highschool football teams more diverse than tennessee. take alcoa and maryville. during the 1rst quarter while georgia played man to man why didn't we throw the ball more than 10 yards. oh thats right our qb can't throw it any further. everytime we run a bubble screen everybody inthe stadium knows it is coming including the defense. why don't we pitch the ball and let riggs get out side when the safties cheat back. have you ever played football bigdaddy. i played and we run the run and shoot it wouldn't have worked if we would have had clausen because we had to air it out. our little division 4 schools offense was more diverse. he threw one pass i believe that was over 25 yards in the air and it would have been picked off if it were not for a great play by swain. underthrown as usual. usc goes down the field almost everytime the safties cheat up and they have man coverage. the reason ,there qb can throw the ball efectively over 30 yards in the air. this is the most boring offense in the history of tennessee football. i can't believe anybody in the world would believe this is an open offense.
 
#16
#16
Bama is coming to this game with only one thought - beat Tennesee as bad or worse than they beat Florida. The crowd will be insane and beyond hostile. I just don't think this team has anything to take to Tuscaloosa to come out with a win. I still love 'em, but the orange glasses are off.
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OK, who kidnapped LIO? Seriously, this is going to be one tough game...it'll be close either way. Both teams will be bringing their best game!
 
#17
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Originally posted by JOHNNY VOL 2@Oct 10, 2005 1:15 PM
Sure they will be Top 25, but barely. 

Losses so far
Gators - LOST - Top 5 when we played them
LSU - WIN -  top 5 when we played them
Georgia - LOST - top 5 when we played them

The rest, how i see it
@ Alabama - LOSS to another top 5 team
South Carolina  - WIN
@ Notre Dame  - LOSS to another top 10 team
Memphis - WIN - always close
Vanderbilt  - WIN - will be close
@ Kentucky - WIN - blow out

7-4 FINISH, no way around this one.  Is that good enough for the Peach Bowl????? and probably a top 25 standing.
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I dont think 7-4 gets us into the top 25. Especially when you go 1-4 against ranked teams.
 
#18
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Originally posted by bigdaddy@Oct 10, 2005 12:16 PM
COnservative ball?  What excatly do you want us to do on offense?  We opened up the middle, we threw it as far down the field as we could.  We are running/passing out of a shotgun 3 wide.  Do you want flee flickers and double reverses?  I just don't know what offense people want.  I watched the Pac 10 play and i saw one thing different-better execution.  USC flat out executes thier plays, catches thier passes, and gets thier blocks.  WE need to get it done and we will win.
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Better execution is brought on by better coaching. USC is better coached than Tennessee.

The one really important thing that makes them different is a great QB. Leinart is a good one. But other than, I think our talent is quite comparable.

 
#19
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Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 10, 2005 4:47 PM
big daddy i have seen highschool football teams more diverse than tennessee.  take alcoa and maryville.  during the 1rst quarter while georgia played man to man why didn't we throw the ball more than 10 yards.  oh thats right our qb can't throw it any further.  everytime we run a bubble screen everybody inthe stadium knows it is coming including the defense.  why don't we pitch the ball and let riggs get out side when the safties cheat back.  have you ever played football bigdaddy.  i played and we run the run and shoot it wouldn't have worked if we would have had clausen because we had to air it out.  our little division 4 schools offense was more diverse.  he threw one pass i believe that was over 25 yards in the air and it would have been picked off if it were not for a great play by swain.  underthrown as usual.  usc goes down the field almost everytime the safties cheat up and they have man coverage.  the reason ,there qb can throw the ball efectively over 30 yards in the air.  this is the most boring offense in the history of tennessee football.  i can't believe anybody in the world would believe this is an open offense.
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Actually This offense has been opened up quite a bit. We have attempted time and time again to get the ball downfield but Clausen has zero accuracy when he tries to throw a deep ball. Our wideouts time and time again have beaten the opposing DB only to drop a pass or watch a pathetic excuse for a pass fly overhead or fall short. The opportunities have been there and we have taken our shots but failed to execute. With the way Ainge has played this year I think Clausen is the right choice at this point, but I just do not think he has the arm to get it done, and since we cannot run the ball the deep pass is the only thing people are going to give us. I have supported Clausen and will continue to do so, and while he has done some great things he is limited physically.
 
#21
#21
One more time...I like Rick and that he does what he does well...however, the farther he throws the ball, the more his accuracy goes right out the window...get it past 15-20 yards and it might go anywhere. We NEED accuracy beyond 20 yards...our receivers deserve the chance to put up some decent yards...AND...YARDS AFTER THE CATCH...and that means being led...not having to reach back for the ball!
 
#22
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Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 10, 2005 4:47 PM
big daddy i have seen highschool football teams more diverse than tennessee.  take alcoa and maryville.  during the 1rst quarter while georgia played man to man why didn't we throw the ball more than 10 yards.  oh thats right our qb can't throw it any further.  everytime we run a bubble screen everybody inthe stadium knows it is coming including the defense.  why don't we pitch the ball and let riggs get out side when the safties cheat back.  have you ever played football bigdaddy.  i played and we run the run and shoot it wouldn't have worked if we would have had clausen because we had to air it out.  our little division 4 schools offense was more diverse.  he threw one pass i believe that was over 25 yards in the air and it would have been picked off if it were not for a great play by swain.  underthrown as usual.  usc goes down the field almost everytime the safties cheat up and they have man coverage.  the reason ,there qb can throw the ball efectively over 30 yards in the air.  this is the most boring offense in the history of tennessee football.  i can't believe anybody in the world would believe this is an open offense.
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How many bubble screens have we run this year? I can count three in my head, and one we faked and if we had better protection (execution) and a QB with and arm we would have scored on that play up the field to Bret Smith at LSU. THat was a good play call and a nice wrinkle in the offense. I did play football and it has been a part of my life for as long as I remember. I was by no means an allstar, but I tried over my life to learn the game. I am happy that you had a more diverse div. 4 school. USC does not go down the field everytime. THey freakin run all over people so they open up the pass lanes for the post and the have a more talented QB. I have watched them play all but one game this year and their system is not that diverse. They effectively execute plays. They have a better OL. They have 2 better RBs and the BEST QB in the nation. There D is great. Only one TD allowed rushing this year. They beat the pants off the best rushing team in the SEC. But back to my point. You keep pointing out how our guys can't make plays. That doesn't mean our offensive play calling is boring, that means the guys running the plays are failing to make them or can't and that is what is boring you. But you will disagree I am sure so we will have to agree to disagree and go on. I still feel blessed to be able to watch this great game everyday that I am alive.
 
#23
#23
I hesitatingly voted yes because, although I do htink you are a Top 25 team, I worry that your guys may throw in the towel down the strecth. If you go 6-5, you will still be invited to a bowl game because you'd be over .500 and draw a big crowd and lots of $. As long as you do that and win the bowl game, probably against inferior team, at 7-5 with the big name you crack the Top 25.

If you go 7-4 but lose the bowl game, its iffy.

At 5-6 -- the worst case scenario -- you are out.
 
#24
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 9, 2005 10:26 PM
Bama is coming to this game with only one thought - beat Tennesee as bad or worse than they beat Florida. The crowd will be insane and beyond hostile. I just don't think this team has anything to take to Tuscaloosa to come out with a win. I still love 'em, but the orange glasses are off.
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That's the kind of environment we were in at Death Valley and we came out of there with a win...I'm not a bit worried about going down there and winning....I believe we have the team and the heart to do it and that's exactly what its going to take...Heart
 
#25
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Oct 14, 2005 2:13 PM
I hesitatingly voted yes because, although I do htink you are a Top 25 team, I worry that your guys may throw in the towel down the strecth.  If you go 6-5, you will still be invited to a bowl game because you'd be over .500 and draw a big crowd and lots of $.  As long as you do that and win the bowl game, probably against inferior team, at 7-5 with the big name you crack the Top 25.

If you go 7-4 but lose the bowl game, its iffy.

At 5-6 -- the worst case scenario -- you are out.
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6 losses? Who the hell do you think will beat us?

We play:
Alabama
S Carolina
Notre Dame
Memphis
Vandy
Kentucky

We would have to lose 4 of those to lose 6. NO WAY.
 
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