Wind turbines are an environmental disaster.

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BLOG.BILLLAWRENCEONLINE.COM: Pa. Wind Turbines Destroying Environment

Bats, as scary as they are to some, are one of the more
useful mammals in creation. The diets of those species
common in Pennsylvania consist of mosquitoes and other
insect pests including the ones that damage crops.

A colony of 100 brown bats can consume of a quarter-
million insects in a single night. Science magazine has
estimated the pest control service provided by bats
can save farmers about $74 per acre.

Well, the unattractive wind turbines built at the
hectoring of the nature worshipers who've managed
to convince most that they are the arbiters of all
dogma scientific are turning out to be a bit of an
environmental disaster.

The 420 wind turbines in use in Pennsylvania killed
10,000 bats last year.
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Okay, so screw green energy right? I'm not really a fan of wind because honestly it's not going to fix the issues we have but it's not a bad alternative in some cases. If I ever have a house built I would like to have solar panels and maybe a small windmill so I can tell the power company to stick it.
 
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Have you ever watched a colony of bats fly from a prominent nesting cave? They easily number in the ten of thousands per site and can live and reproduce for many years.

Ten thousand bats would have died from the awful diseases they carry, anyways. The liberal says it's a win for cleaner energy and natural selection.
 
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
Have you ever watched a colony of bats fly from a prominent nesting cave? They easily number in the ten of thousands per site and can live and reproduce for many years.

Ten thousand bats would have died from the awful diseases they carry, anyways. The liberal says it's a win for cleaner energy and natural selection.
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You know I was wondering about that, if 10,000 was really that big a deal. I'm pretty sure I hit 10 bugs today with my car and there are a lot of cars out there..............ARE CARS GOING TO MAKE BUGS EXTINCT.
 
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So, we won't drill because the caribou might have to relocate...but wind turbines are innovative and revolutionary? Bats are icky, so I can see that.
 
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Panthro said:
So, we won't drill because the caribou might have to relocate...but wind turbines are innovative and revolutionary? Bats are icky, so I can see that.
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I would rather pay 5 dollars a gallon than f*** up Alaska myself.
 
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How exactly would it "f*** up Alaska"? It's by far the largest state, and only one state has a smaller population. I get that it's beautiful, and all, but there's room to work there. Decreasing our dependence on foreign oil is invaluable.
 
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The problem with wind is that it's not very efficient when you consider all of their associated costs (construction, amount of land required, transmission, maintenance, kill birds and bats, it's not always windy, they're incredibly loud)
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Panthro said:
How exactly would it "f*** up Alaska"? It's by far the largest state, and only one state has a smaller population. I get that it's beautiful, and all, but there's room to work there. Decreasing our dependence on foreign oil is invaluable.
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That's why I say let's continue to consume the world's supply and when they run out we are the only ones left with oil. :)
 
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
Have you ever watched a colony of bats fly from a prominent nesting cave? They easily number in the ten of thousands per site and can live and reproduce for many years.

Ten thousand bats would have died from the awful diseases they carry, anyways. The liberal says it's a win for cleaner energy and natural selection.
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Most colonies are much, much smaller than the very large colonies you mention. Many more make homes in old barns, sheltered cliff overhangs, etc.

I'm not going to conclude this is the disaster the OP claims but lowering the numbers of bats in any area has a negative effect as far as mosquitos go.
 
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KB5252 said:
Most colonies are much, much smaller than the very large colonies you mention. Many more make homes in old barns, sheltered cliff overhangs, etc.

I'm not going to conclude this is the disaster the OP claims but lowering the numbers of bats in any area has a negative effect as far as mosquitos go.
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Don't know much about the issue, but I do know that bay populations in the Midwest have been decimated by disease.
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BigPapaVol said:
Don't know much about the issue, but I do know that bay populations in the Midwest have been decimated by disease.
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I've always been interested in bats. It started when I came way to close to grabbing one by accident in a neighbors old barn I used to play around in as kid.

I see them making the rounds in the sky around my house in the early evening dusk. Plan on putting a few bat boxes in the tree line at the back of my property soon.....been saying that for about a year now though.
 
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Hell yea. Slaughter them god forsaken, evil vile creatures of the night.

I, for one, say F the bats.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Don't know much about the issue, but I do know that bay populations in the Midwest have been decimated by disease.
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Closed all the caves in the area last year because of a fungus that suffocated them.
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mreed90 said:
Okay, so screw green energy right? I'm not really a fan of wind because honestly it's not going to fix the issues we have but it's not a bad alternative in some cases. If I ever have a house built I would like to have solar panels and maybe a small windmill so I can tell the power company to stick it.
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About twenty five years ago ABC gave their man of
the week award to a guy named John Lorenzen.

Just a midwestern farmer with little formal education
but very practical, his dad had been furnishing
electricity for their farm since WWI and when people
were paying three $$ to hook up to the electrical
distribution systems in the 1930s John said he told
them; "No thanks, I got all the electric I need."

He had home made batteries that had been in use for
75 years.

Remember the sails on the Calypso?

That was his favorite design but he just used those
gallon sized vegetable cans that resturants use, cut
some vanes so that it turns in a circular motion no
matter which way the wind is blowing.

Using old gearboxes etc from junk yards, he then
used the wind power to store DC current and then
he powered lights etc from the electricity but he
also took it one step further.

Using the electricity on water, he separated the
hydrogen from the oxygen and used the hydrogen
to power all his household appliances.

He also used hydrogen in his ole pu truck that would
normally get 14 mpg and increased his milage to 40 mpg.

ABC interviewed several folks and one was a PHD
physics professor who said; "John hasn't invented
anything new, he has though put knowledge to use
in practical ways."

I'm not really anti-green but some of the things
government is doing or forcing to be done in the
name of environmentalism is stupid at best and
insane at worst.

Adding to the problem we now have a whole generation
that is so indoctrinated that they will believe anything.




justingroves said:
I would rather pay 5 dollars a gallon than f*** up Alaska myself.
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That is just simply silly tree hugger stuff with no
basis in fact.

For one thing the Alaska pipeline that the dirt people
said would decimate the caribou herds has done just
the opposite, the favorite place for calving caribou
cows is as close to the pipe as they can get, so as
to absorb some warmth from the pipeline for them and
their newborns.




dreVol said:
The problem with wind is that it's not very efficient when you consider all of their associated costs (construction, amount of land required, transmission, maintenance, kill birds and bats, it's not always windy, they're incredibly loud)
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Those are some of the problems.

For one thing it just isn't possible for them to produce
the amount of power the central planners claim they
are going to replace.




IPorange said:
You have no credibility.
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I would say he has more than you.
 
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mreed90 said:
Okay, so screw green energy right? I'm not really a fan of wind because honestly it's not going to fix the issues we have but it's not a bad alternative in some cases. If I ever have a house built I would like to have solar panels and maybe a small windmill so I can tell the power company to stick it.
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Good luck with that. Just how big of a windmill do you plan on buying?
 
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KentheOrange said:
gsvol said:
"Adding to the problem we now have a whole generation
that is so indoctrinated that they will believe anything."

Ergo, Obama.
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Right. The generations that allowed slavery were not indoctrinated; the generations that segregated schools, buses, and facilities based upon race were not indoctrinated; the generations that blindly went to WWI were not indoctrinated; the generations that protected "American interests" on the Korean Peninsula were not indoctrinated; the generations that sent American forces to the Persian Gulf after an impassioned (and false) plea from the daughter on the Crowned Prince of Kuwait were not indoctrinated; the generation that decided we had to retaliate with a ten year venture amid cave dwellars was not indoctrinated; and, the generation that felt it was so urgent to invade and "liberate" Iraq was not indoctrinated.

What is so different today?
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