With Saban gone Kirby now owns this conference

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nlovu said:
Saban was the only one who owned Kirby. Now that Saban is gone, Kirby will just recruit guys that Bama would have gotten and just be that much more talented. It's pretty much Georgia's conference, and in some ways, the country. They will have more talent than anyone every year.
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First I hope OP is wrong because uga is my least favorite school and it has been a painful few years.

That said, I don't think it is a given that Kirby becomes Saban and I think Saban retiring proves why. Prior to Saban CFB had pretty good parity. Think about winners from the 90's until 2007. Nebraska, Michigan, Tennessee, Miami, OSU, USC, TX, there were no "dynasty's" and competition was broad. Parity was more existent. Even Virginia Tech played for a national title in that period. If Tennessee just signed a top group of LB's then other LB's would go to other schools to not sit the bench. Saban found a way to convince kids to come sit the bench for 2 years, play for 1 year then go to the NFL. With only a 2 game and then 4 game playoff it was easier to sell to kids that they woudl be in the spotlight and they were. He was able to get all the talent. The legality of how he did it is open for debate, but he was the only one who could do it until Kirby learned how and took those skills to uga.

Well now with NIL, it's not about waiting to get your money in the NFL you can get it now. And there are lots of rich schools. Yes, uga has some advantages being in the Atlanta area and a hot bed of CFB. But other schools have rich boosters and programs and with a 12 team playoff you'll have more schools who will be able to sell their path to a national championship. To be clear, I'm not saying kirby isn't going to win again. I'm saying I don't think it's a given that he picks up where saban left off.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Until proven otherwise, you are probably right. He's 86-11 since 2017, 85-6 against anyone not coached by Saban. And he's younger than Saban was when he started at LSU. Though much uglier.
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The East was horrible the whole time too, rarely getting tested until December. With the expanded SEC, I would imagine undefeated seasons will be much tougher for anyone.
 
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CMcEver said:
The East was horrible the whole time too, rarely getting tested until December. With the expanded SEC, I would imagine undefeated seasons will be much tougher for anyone.
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I agree undefeated seasons are going to be more rare in the SEC, but I also think folks still trying to explain away Smart's success at this point with anything other than, "he's a damn good coach" look pretty silly. For all the smack talked about UGA's schedule this year they ended up playing 4 teams who were ranked in the final Top 10 and beat 3 out of 4.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I agree undefeated seasons are going to be more rare in the SEC, but I also think folks still trying to explain away Smart's success at this point with anything other than, "he's a damn good coach" look pretty silly. For all the smack talked about UGA's schedule this year they ended up playing 4 teams who were ranked in the final Top 10 and beat 3 out of 4.
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He beat 3 teams with far inferior rosters than his, and lost to the only one close. That also will be changing.
 
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CMcEver said:
He beat 3 teams with far inferior rosters than his, and lost to the only one close. That also will be changing.
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Keep burying your head in the sand then. You'd be dousing your drawers if we had a guy doing what he has done.
 
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Ga is going to experience the biggest change of anyone in this new SEC. They’ve played Ala & LSU 1 time in the reg season each every 8 yrs. Now, they’ll play them 4 times each every 8 yrs. They’ll also pick up Tx or OU every year. (4x each). They’ll lose Vandy, SC. Mizz & Ky every year also.
 
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wmcovol said:
Ga is going to experience the biggest change of anyone in this new SEC. They’ve played Ala & LSU 1 time in the reg season each every 8 yrs. Now, they’ll play them 4 times each every 8 yrs. They’ll also pick up Tx or OU every year. (4x each). They’ll lose Vandy, SC. Mizz & Ky every year also.
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Unless their recruiting drops off, I don't see it. OU and Tx ain't bama. And didn't UGA just snap up bama's best recruiter? Seems the rich g0t richer when Saban moved stage left. Wish we had more top shelf recruiters.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Unless their recruiting drops off, I don't see it. OU and Tx ain't bama. And didn't UGA just snap up bama's best recruiter? Seems the rich g0t richer when Saban moved stage left. Wish we had more top shelf recruiters.
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I’m not surprised.
 
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wmcovol said:
Ga is going to experience the biggest change of anyone in this new SEC. They’ve played Ala & LSU 1 time in the reg season each every 8 yrs. Now, they’ll play them 4 times each every 8 yrs. They’ll also pick up Tx or OU every year. (4x each). They’ll lose Vandy, SC. Mizz & Ky every year also.
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Exactly…Kirby has had to navigate the easiest SEC East I can remember with both TN and FL being dumpster fires. Now, you‘ll have to coach…plus, you’ve already had evaluate your recruiting class a couple years after… Well, now that really rings true. It doesn’t matter if you had the number #1 class if half or more enter the portal the next.

For several years, the quality depth has stayed and waited their turn. That’s going to be the outliers now.
 
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nlovu said:
Saban was the only one who owned Kirby. Now that Saban is gone, Kirby will just recruit guys that Bama would have gotten and just be that much more talented. It's pretty much Georgia's conference, and in some ways, the country. They will have more talent than anyone every year.
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UGA can't sign all of the good recruits.
 
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DarkVolder said:
Georgia will win the natty next season yep unfortunately they are going to run the SEC and national scene now without anyone getting in their way.
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They'll lose at Texas, possibly lose [without Saban] at Bama, & possibly at Ole Miss. Kirby no longer has an easy road with FL & TN being historically bad, especially TN.
 
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As long as Kirby is there, Georgia will certainly be a front runner but this conference has as much balance top to bottom as I can ever remember seeing it. 8-9 wins used to be a foregone conclusion for the top conference teams but I don’t see that being the case anymore. Look at what Missouri is doing. Winning in Columbia, SC isn’t a guarantee these days. Now enter Oklahoma and Texas… Alabama, Ole Miss and LSU aren’t going anywhere… If anything the Saban dynasty being over, pushes the competition up a notch.
 
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