Worst case scenarios

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Just wondering what everyone in here feels are the very worst outcomes from 4 years of McCain and 4 years of Obama?
 
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I am an Obama supporter, and to me, the thing that scares me the most about an Obama presidency is his stance on missile defense. We very well could see this program cut significantly, or even canceled. This program is vital to our national security.

As for McCain, the very worst thing I could see is getting drawn into another conflict (Iran, N. Korea...or if they are stupid enough to invade Taiwan, China). That, or staying in Iraq indefinitely.

I don't think either is too likely, but we are talking worst case scenarios.

EDIT: I would have to say the China scenario would happen under Obama too, because if China invaded Taiwan we would be bound by treaty to defend them.
 
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It's a toss-up.

Listening to Obama's lies and half baked ideas.

Or looking at her for 4 years.

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4 years of Obama:

the boondoggle known as universal health care

ACORN being legitimized

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd not being held accountable for their roles in the GSE fiasco

Pelosi and Reid with veto proof and filibuster proof majorities, along with a presidential green light to pass garbage like the fairness doctrine

the Russians and the Chinese, seeing a weak-willed and conflict averse President, invade Eastern Europe and Taiwan respectively.
 
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4 years of McCain

He dies two years into office(I really hope he doesn't, if elected, but he is 72, and presidents age fast, just look at Bush in 2000, and then look now), and we get stuck with that loony toon of a VP Palin. Palin says she will invade the West Bank and return Isreal it's rightful land. Dow falls below 2,000, but Palin won't do a damn thing, because she can't read a newspaper to figure out whats going on.

Hey, you said worse case scenarios. I gave you the very worst case. In all fairness, McCain and Palin could do very well as presidents, but I just don't see it.
 
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nickknx865 said:
4 years of McCain

He dies two years into office(I really hope he doesn't, if elected, but he is 72, and presidents age fast, just look at Bush in 2000, and then look now), and we get stuck with that loony toon of a VP Palin. Palin says she will invade the West Bank and return Isreal it's rightful land. Dow falls below 2,000, but Palin won't do a damn thing, because she can't read a newspaper to figure out whats going on.

Hey, you said worse case scenarios. I gave you the very worst case. In all fairness, McCain and Palin could do very well as presidents, but I just don't see it.
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at least my worst case scenarios have some basis in reality
 
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worst case scenario is going to be 3 weeks into the deal when everyone figures out Obama has been handing out lies and that he has the type of leadership skills that make JCarter look like George Patton.
 
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everyone knows Obama is lying now, but those voting for him are too stupid to realize that an orgasm only lasts so long and once the consequences of your actions become apparent, all you can do is throw up in your shoes.
 
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MG1968 said:
everyone knows Obama is lying now, but those voting for him are too stupid to realize that an orgasm only lasts so long and once the consequences of your actions become apparent, all you can do is throw up in your shoes.
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There are consequences to orgasms?
 
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nickknx865 said:
Palin won't do a damn thing, because she can't read a newspaper to figure out whats going on.
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You do understand that persons who are in high political places do not read newspapers, right? Some will read directly off the wires and most will be briefed by their staff on what is going on in the news.
 
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rjd970 said:
I am an Obama supporter, and to me, the thing that scares me the most about an Obama presidency is his stance on missile defense. We very well could see this program cut significantly, or even canceled. This program is vital to our national security.
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I would suggest that until the MDA can perform their tests without the constant appearance of fraud, then they certainly don't deserve the money they are getting. If we had a functioning MD shield, that would be a great accomplishment and not a bad thing at all...but I have yet to see any indications that an exo-atmospheric hit-to-kill MD technology will be successful (probably ever) at the level needed to be a true shield. As a result, whatever Obama or McCain does to this program would not fit into my personal worst-case scenarios (save using it as a bullying stick when it doesn't work).

My worst fear in an Obama presidency is the steps that he will take toward universal health care...there is no right way to do this, but a bad ways and horrible ways...that would be my fear there.

As for McCain, I would say that a worst case scenario would be his death shortly after taking office and a very inexperienced Palin taking over. I don't care how much you love her conservative stances - she isn't ready for the #1 job at all...and needs some time as VP before it wouldn't be a very bad scenario (including the tests that would be sure to follow by our adversaries).
 
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therealUT said:
You do understand that persons who are in high political places do not read newspapers, right? Some will read directly off the wires and most will be briefed by their staff on what is going on in the news.
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Presidents have had the major papers delivered to the residence each morning for many years....and read to some degree according to reports I've seen. I've heard that Bush gets the papers, but usually doesn't read them - which was apparently a change from previous Presidents. I would personally not like to be in a position where all news I get is from advisors...to have some grounding in reality that extends beyond my circle of advisers.
 
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I thought the President got a report that was a compilation of all the important stories in the news.
 
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kptvol said:
I thought the President got a report that was a compilation of all the important stories in the news.
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They are briefed every morning on exactly what is going on in the world. The media is take offense to politicians that do not read newspapers or magazines because that means that those politicians do not care about their opinions (editorials), instead are just taking in the facts.
 
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kptvol said:
I thought the President got a report that was a compilation of all the important stories in the news.
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They do get a report...but I've heard various White House staff members also say that the President has a paper or two delivered to the residence in the morning.
 
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therealUT said:
They are briefed every morning on exactly what is going on in the world. The media is take offense to politicians that do not read newspapers or magazines because that means that those politicians do not care about their opinions (editorials), instead are just taking in the facts.
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Fair point...I'm sure they don't like that at all....
 
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TennTradition said:
Presidents have had the major papers delivered to the residence each morning for many years....and read to some degree according to reports I've seen. I've heard that Bush gets the papers, but usually doesn't read them - which was apparently a change from previous Presidents. I would personally not like to be in a position where all news I get is from advisors...to have some grounding in reality that extends beyond my circle of advisers.
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If you want truth and/or reality, today's media is the last place you should look.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
If you want truth and/or reality, today's media is the last place you should look.
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Well...It's hard to argue with that sentiment considering some of the crap that is out there, but I think that the written media can still get stories across to some degree - unlike the cable news cycle.
 
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nickknx865 said:
4 years of McCain

He dies two years into office(I really hope he doesn't, if elected, but he is 72, and presidents age fast, just look at Bush in 2000, and then look now), and we get stuck with that loony toon of a VP Palin. Palin says she will invade the West Bank and return Isreal it's rightful land. Dow falls below 2,000, but Palin won't do a damn thing, because she can't read a newspaper to figure out whats going on.

Hey, you said worse case scenarios. I gave you the very worst case. In all fairness, McCain and Palin could do very well as presidents, but I just don't see it.
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Yeah and nobody else ages or learns on the job. Hell I bet if we looked at a picture of you 8 years ago (when you were 10) and a current picture you would not have aged a bit! And I bet you knew just as much then as you do now about politics.

Point is even under your scenario Palin would have two years experience under her belt to pull from. And how long will Obama have to garner the all important experience he needs?
 
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