Would Dungy Have Pulled'em?

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I don't think so. I don't see anything to dislike about Jim Caldwell, and one is challenged, imo, to really talk down his decision yesterday, but I think it was more monumental than he perhaps even realized. Peyton stays in, and the Colts are 15-0; it borders on fact. History was close at hand, and I think the Colts might've really had it. So I know the Lombardi Trophy is the business goal, but Jesus, they could've had both..the trophy and perfection!!! When you're that close, you go..don't you?!!

Tony Dungy, I think, would've left them in. He was everything a coach should be..smart, publicly quiet, respectful and a good decision-maker, and I think he would've weighed the odds vs. history and left Peyton and the gang in to finish the job.

I will ache for a while over this one. I don't know what kind of man Jim Caldwell is, but win or lose from here on out, he will grind over this on the inside for a long time to come, won't he? Jesus, it's excruciating to think about!!!!!!!!!!

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Actually on TV during NBC's Football Night in America, Dungy said it was absolutely the right decision, since you have to go for the Super Bowl.
 
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Well, he may've said it, but perhaps it was to some degree, a desire to support and encourage Caldwell. In 2007, even with an imperfect record going into week 16 against the Texans and with a first-round bye already secured, Dungy did not rest starters. He felt the time off - nearly a month - was too long and chanced a lot of rust.
 
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Dungy is famous for playing Jim Sorgi in Week 17s. I think his protege did what the mentor would have. To act like Caldwell isn't going to be an extension of Dungy's philosophy is foolish.
 
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So where is the evidence that Caldwell, in this regard, is an extension of Dungy's philosophy in practice? I realize the point is quite moot, but the worthwhile debate lies in whether a more interesting choice, worthy of the risk, should have and would have been made if Dungy (or any coach exrecising more profound considerations) were calling the shots yesterday.
 
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Dungy was a smart coach. Super bowl ring>>>>>>>undefeated season. I am fairly confident in saying Dungy would have pulled his starters. In fact, did he not do the same thing once when he was coaching the Colts?
 
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They guys would not have played as long as they did, he would have pulled them after the 2nd series.
 
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lylsmorr said:
Dungy was a smart coach. Super bowl ring>>>>>>>undefeated season. I am fairly confident in saying Dungy would have pulled his starters. In fact, did he not do the same thing once when he was coaching the Colts?
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Yes, in 2005 in weeks 16 & 17 but then came out very flat against the Steelers in the playoffs and so seemed to reverse that practice subsequently. I firmly believe Dungy, seasoned as he was, would have chosen to leave them in yesterday and go for gooey glory.
 
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Dungy was notorious for pulling the starter. In fact, the year the colts won the SuperBowl, is ironically the only year they didn't get rest the last couple of games. Hmmm.
 
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lylsmorr said:
Dungy was a smart coach. Super bowl ring>>>>>>>undefeated season. I am fairly confident in saying Dungy would have pulled his starters. In fact, did he not do the same thing once when he was coaching the Colts?
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Dungy has done it more than once.
 
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thehardknoxlife said:
Dungy was notorious for pulling the starter. In fact, the year the colts won the SuperBowl, is ironically the only year they didn't get rest the last couple of games. Hmmm.
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I am pretty certain that last year the starters played all but week 17, they had to. So they didn't get much rest at the end of last season and still got bounced in wild card round.
 
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It's a risk/reward type thing. If you play you risk possibly getting worn out or injured, but you also keep your momentum going.

Super Bowl Champions every year, without fail, are playing good football, playing their starters and winning games (or coming close against other playoff teams) 3-4 weeks prior to the playoffs. Teams who get ahead and rest fail in the playoffs.

If Caldwell has Sorgi or Painter or whoever in for more the majority of a half again next week, Indy is going down in the playoffs. Book it.
 
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I think the playoffs lie more in the hands of the defense rather than whether or not our offense is on track.
 
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Nothing about Dungy makes me think he would have left the starters in. They might've even come out earlier in the game.
 
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That is just how I see it for the Colts. Idk if we can play like we did defensively against Jacksonville and survive.
 
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All Vol! said:
I don't think so. I don't see anything to dislike about Jim Caldwell, and one is challenged, imo, to really talk down his decision yesterday, but I think it was more monumental than he perhaps even realized. Peyton stays in, and the Colts are 15-0; it borders on fact. History was close at hand, and I think the Colts might've really had it. So I know the Lombardi Trophy is the business goal, but Jesus, they could've had both..the trophy and perfection!!! When you're that close, you go..don't you?!!

Tony Dungy, I think, would've left them in. He was everything a coach should be..smart, publicly quiet, respectful and a good decision-maker, and I think he would've weighed the odds vs. history and left Peyton and the gang in to finish the job.

I will ache for a while over this one. I don't know what kind of man Jim Caldwell is, but win or lose from here on out, he will grind over this on the inside for a long time to come, won't he? Jesus, it's excruciating to think about!!!!!!!!!!

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the colts are certainly my pick to win it all at this point, but they have yet to actually win "it." they have to actually win the superbowl first to look back and feel bad for pulling the starters. good luck to them, but a lot can happen between now and the superbowl. i know i am stating the obvious but some fans need to be reminded that their team has not won anything thus far.

i was in indiana for christmas and those people are delusional.
 
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Imo, he was in a no win situation. If he leaves them in and one of them gets hurt, then he would b trashed for leaving them in in a meaningless game. I like the decision, play three quarters of game and rest. After seeing Painter play I sure as heck wouldn't b happy if Manning got hurt.
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TrueOrange said:
Defense always wins you championships

a team with offense is just more exciting
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I don't think that is true this year, look at the top seeds from each conference. Colts, Chargers, Eagles, Saints and Vikings. These defenses are ok but not great, their offenses carried them all year.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I don't think that is true this year, look at the top seeds from each conference. Colts, Chargers, Eagles, Saints and Vikings. These defenses are ok but not great, their offenses carried them all year.
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None of those teams have won a championship yet.
 
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