Would it make sense to let Vegas pick the final four?

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Why?

We’re debating and wondering……..however nothing is finalized yet.

Seriously how many times have they gotten it blatantly wrong?
 
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What you are proposing would put the power of the CFP into hands of people that have the best perspective and knowledge of the sport. This would take the power out of the hands of appointed committee members. These committee members are used to being in the Ivory Tower of Academia, where great results aren't necessarily the end goal. These committee members make deals and play politics to come about their decisions. That being said, it will never happen because:

A. The committee would lose power and a bunch of paid for mini vacations.
B. Vegas would produce the proper results.
C. Your idea makes too much sense.
 
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JoAllan said:
Why?

We’re debating and wondering……..however nothing is finalized yet.

Seriously how many times have they gotten it blatantly wrong?
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I'm not sure about blatantly wrong, but these are the teams that got blown out in the semi-finals. Four since its inception in 2014.

2015 Michigan State - 38-0 Bama
2016 Ohio State - 31-0 Clemson
2018 Notre Dame - 30-3 Clemson
2021 Cincinnati - 27-6 Bama

Honorable Mention:

2014 FSU - 59-20 Oregon
2016 Washington - 24-7 Bama
 
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Tman44 said:
What you are proposing would put the power of the CFP into hands of people that have the best perspective and knowledge of the sport. This would take the power out of the hands of appointed committee members. These committee members are used to being in the Ivory Tower of Academia, where great results aren't necessarily the end goal. These committee members make deals and play politics to come about their decisions. That being said, it will never happen because:

A. The committee would lose power and a bunch of paid for mini vacations.
B. Vegas would produce the proper results.
C. Your idea makes too much sense.
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I'll have to disagree.

The great benefit of a committee such as we have today is that we can hold them accountable. We know who they are, we know where they live, and we know their allegiances (school, conference, etc.). We know what to expect of them, and we can call them out if they show bias.

Giving it to the bookies makes it murky. Makes it unaccountable. And, as the mafia have taught us over many decades, opens the entire process up to potential corruption.

I mean, fixing games and races and matches COMES from organized crime. Organized crime built Vegas (and probably still owns significant bits of it, including most especially some of the sports betting houses).

No, let's keep it very public, with people who we can rain contempt and troubles upon if they show a lack of balance.

Go Vols!
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I'll have to disagree.

The great benefit of a committee such as we have today is that we can hold them accountable. We know who they are, we know where they live, and we know their allegiances (school, conference, etc.). We know what to expect of them, and we can call them out if they show bias.

Giving it to the bookies makes it murky. Makes it unaccountable. And, as the mafia have taught us over many decades, opens the entire process up to potential corruption.

I mean, fixing games and races and matches COMES from organized crime. Organized crime built Vegas (and probably still owns significant bits of it, including most especially some of the sports betting houses).

No, let's keep it very public, with people who we can rain contempt and troubles upon if they show a lack of balance.

Go Vols!
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You make a good point about corruption and accountability.
 
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Tman44 said:
I'm not sure about blatantly wrong, but these are the teams that got blown out in the semi-finals. Four since its inception in 2014.

2015 Michigan State - 38-0 Bama
2016 Ohio State - 31-0 Clemson
2018 Notre Dame - 30-3 Clemson
2021 Cincinnati - 27-6 Bama

Honorable Mention:

2014 FSU - 59-20 Oregon
2016 Washington - 24-7 Bama
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well blowouts vs really good teams can almost always happen……especially when you got teams that might only play 1 or 2 good teams each year.


15 Iowa & OSU were behind M-ST. M-ST beat them both and won the conference, everyone else behind M-ST had 2, 3 or more losses.

2016 OSU might be the only one I can remember. They lost to P-ST and P-ST won the B10 but had 2 losses. The committee chose OSU and their 1 loss. P-ST lost in their bowl to USC anyway so it was a wash.

2018 ND was undefeated, Georgia was left out at 5th……they had 2 losses.

Last year Cincy was the only undefeated team. ND was left out, they had a loss and no conference title……Cincy was the right choice.
 
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Tman44 said:
What you are proposing would put the power of the CFP into hands of people that have the best perspective and knowledge of the sport. This would take the power out of the hands of appointed committee members. These committee members are used to being in the Ivory Tower of Academia, where great results aren't necessarily the end goal. These committee members make deals and play politics to come about their decisions. That being said, it will never happen because:

A. The committee would lose power and a bunch of paid for mini vacations.
B. Vegas would produce the proper results.
C. Your idea makes too much sense.
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I didn’t propose anything, just ask for thoughts.
 
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Well, money does talk.

In committee, money talks television share... NCAA share... conference share... teams' share.
In television boardrooms, money counts eyeballs nationwide and talks profits in hundreds of millions.
In Vegas, it talks billions, under the table, in worldwide money, including consideration for how much is wagered in Ukraine (D.C.), Saudi Arabia, and the CCP.

It's not a question of leaving it to the professionals. It's a question of what the professionals are professional at.
 
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Just go back to the BCS. You have to wonder what schools were behind the change. Like the AP Poll. I could not care less what the AP Poll ranks us. Get it out of the hands of the playoff committee.
 
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All the conference champions and a couple of wild cards makes the most sense to me, but I wouldn't be opposed to basing the CFP off the betting public's preferences.
 
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Vollifer1949 said:
I didn’t propose anything, just ask for thoughts.
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Bro, much love... but gotta lyk. You get my C'Mon Man award...

Propose: (Verb) put forward (an idea or plan) for consideration or discussion by others.

In other words, yes, you did.
 
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I'd "wager" there is some Vegas influence in the decision making. If I was on the committee, and it was down to 3 teams for the last 2 spots (say UT, TCU, & USC) I'd ask if UT would be favored over both of those on a neutral field. If UT would be favored over both, they're the 3 seed. Then I would do the same for the other 2...who would be favored between TCU & USC.
 
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