I've always thought of it the opposite way - I think Dabo would be unlikely to follow Saban at this point precisely because he's already created something on his own. Clemson would match any offer Alabama made him (i.e., money gets taken out of the equation) and I don't know why he'd leave a place where he's already a god and has an easier path to the playoff. Now that Dabo has established a power at his school, it would make no sense whatsoever for him to leave there, unless his heartstrings got tugged too much from the phone call from "momma."These are silly arguments. Dabo gets the first call. If he has any sense he stays put. If Pruitt is doing well, he might get the next call. If its within the next 2 years, then sure, he probably goes for $7M a year. If its 2022 and he won SECE in 2021, I am not so sure he goes anywhere. At that point, Fulmer will gladly pony up $7m a year to keep him and I think Pruitt will be "full TN" by then, its not like we are Rutgers or UCLA. He can feel the cultural pull to establish his own dynasty here like Dabo has done for Clemson.
It might be attractive to Dabo because he has already established a dynasty, whereas Pruitt has yet to prove up a first one. No sense in going after Saban. Only Dabo could do that and remain his own man because he had already proven it elsewhere first. Pruitt goes and win or fail, he gets no credit.
I think Pruitt will roll with whatever hand is dealt but is most likely to see his best interest in proving that he can create a dynasty here before going back to save the bubbas. Now if they got a lackluster replacement and after 5-6 more years, Pruitt had been dominating with 2-3 NC appearances? Maybe then just to show he too could do it anywhere - and the bubbas would be more ready for him then. As it is, Saban is a hard man to follow.
Also, there is still massive amounts of $$$$ coming from SEC network, bowl revenues, and branded fan gear. Coaching salaries are not totally subsidized by legislators even if the accounting shows salaries out of the general fund. I think high paid coaches are here to stay. I just wish there wasn’t this massive golden parachute of buyouts. If I knew I could retire in the lap of luxury by screwing up at my job......well, there would be a temptation (said the man who has lived paycheck to paycheck for 45 yrs and has two college grads to show for it). There is just something fundamentally wrong with that business model. I’ve always felt buyouts should be tied to performance somehow.Forever? That’s a long time.
I don’t expect The Alabama State legislators to pass a law that would put Alabama football at a disadvantage. The folks in politics like getting re-elected too much.
We are still talking about Alabama Administrators? I would bet good money they will keep funding football.
All jobs are thankless in college football now especially at programs that have success for 12 yrs like Bama under Saban. Pruitt will see how thankless Vol fans are with anymore excuseless losses like last year. Hard to look back and think we should have been 10-3 realistically. He got 1 get out of jail card now so it's win or get moved out. UT is also a thankless job if you are not producing!Not as meaty as I would have liked. But it's something we've all wondered a time or two.
How Jeremy Pruitt reportedly feels about replacing Nick Saban down the road
Any job is thankless if you don't hit expectations. At Alabama, the expectations are just insanely high - post-Saban, if you go a couple years without winning a national title, they'll start chirping.All jobs are thankless in college football now especially at programs that have success for 12 yrs like Bama under Saban. Pruitt will see how thankless Vol fans are with anymore excuseless losses like last year. Hard to look back and think we should have been 10-3 realistically. He got 1 get out of jail card now so it's win or get moved out. UT is also a thankless job if you are not producing!
I like the way you think. However some of it doesn’t have a thing to do with the size of a coaches cojones, rather the expectations of the spoiled and entitled fan base. Ray Perkins was hand picked by the Bear. Probably was the kind of guy you speak of. Didn’t work out for him.I will say this, if a coach doesn’t want to follow a legend because he is afraid of failing, you have the wrong coach to start with.
I think some of the comments here are driven by a little naivete and orange-colored glasses. Money matters. Money might not have 100% to do with something that happens, but it never has nothing to do with something that happens. It's always a factor to a certain extent, and if somebody tells you that it isn't, they probably aren't being straight with you.I will say this, if a coach doesn’t want to follow a legend because he is afraid of failing, you have the wrong coach to start with.
I agree. Let's hope bama wants him in 3 years. Also, it makes sense bc bama would want him now as their dc. So if he does win, he could. I really hope bama is after him after saban leaves.At this point, no, Pruitt has won nowhere near enough for them. If Saban retired tomorrow, Pruitt would be waaaaay down their list. However, if Saban retires a few years from now and Tennessee has won an SEC title, he's probably their coach (assuming both Dabo and Kirby tell Alabama no, which I think they would). I think Alabama would still seriously consider Pruitt with only an East title.
It’s partially an ego thing, it’s why successful college coaches go to the NFL, to prove that they are that good. It’s also why most fail at it, they aren’t flexible and try and fit their process in whole to a totally different dynamic. Pete Carroll and Jimmie Johnson are the exceptions rather than the rule. And it was Carroll’s second go around with the pros.
I don't think you'll see as much of that going forward outside of unique circumstances. The salaries today for top NFL coaches and top college coaches are basically the same. That wasn't the case when Jimmy Johnson left Miami for the Cowboys, Spurrier left Florida for the Redskins, or Saban left LSU for the Dolphins. They got significant raises to take those jobs. Was it about ego? Yes, partially, but it was also a lot about money.It’s partially an ego thing, it’s why successful college coaches go to the NFL, to prove that they are that good. It’s also why most fail at it, they aren’t flexible and try and fit their process in whole to a totally different dynamic. Pete Carroll and Jimmie Johnson are the exceptions rather than the rule. And it was Carroll’s second go around with the pros.
I agree with that as well. I really don't see a scenario where either of those two take that job. I just HOPE they want CJP because, of course, that means he's been rocking it at a high level here. I know coaching is a business and attachments don't usually run as deep as we fans think but CJP seems to really be embracing the Vols program and "owning" it. Hopefully he'll love it too much to leave. And it will be virtually impossible for ANYONE to be as successful as CNS has been.You've been around as have I. Seen it a million times, there's just no way the person following a legend does as well or better than the legend. CJP knows that as well. someone else will follow Saban at Bama besides Dabo and CJP.
Can we win the freakin East ONCE before we start gnashing our teeth on if Pruitt would leave for Bama? Good Gravy!Not as meaty as I would have liked. But it's something we've all wondered a time or two.
How Jeremy Pruitt reportedly feels about replacing Nick Saban down the road
Not as meaty as I would have liked. But it's something we've all wondered a time or two.
How Jeremy Pruitt reportedly feels about replacing Nick Saban down the road
Gotta disagree. For Pruitt to be considered for the Bama job, he'd first have to win big at Tennessee. If he does that, wins big and brings Tennessee back to national prominence, why leave the powerhouse program he built to go work in Saban's shadow? I think sometimes we (fans) make more of the alma mater issue than coaches do.I believe he would go. I think Dabo would be first on the wish list, but I do not think he would leave Clemson under current conditions. If Pruitt does well at Tennessee, he'd been on the wish list too. If offered the job, I think he would have to go. If he turned them down, I doubt he gets another opportunity there and it's his home state and his alma mater. I can't see him turning down the opportunity.
Gotta disagree. For Pruitt to be considered for the Bama job, he'd first have to win big at Tennessee. If he does that, wins big and brings Tennessee back to national prominence, why leave the powerhouse program he built to go work in Saban's shadow? I think sometimes we (fans) make more of the alma mater issue than coaches do.
Too much luck involved in football to base the buyout on wins and losses. When a coach “losses the team”(Try to define that in a Multi Million $ contract.) there should be a way to adjust the buyout.Also, there is still massive amounts of $$$$ coming from SEC network, bowl revenues, and branded fan gear. Coaching salaries are not totally subsidized by legislators even if the accounting shows salaries out of the general fund. I think high paid coaches are here to stay. I just wish there wasn’t this massive golden parachute of buyouts. If I knew I could retire in the lap of luxury by screwing up at my job......well, there would be a temptation (said the man who has lived paycheck to paycheck for 45 yrs and has two college grads to show for it). There is just something fundamentally wrong with that business model. I’ve always felt buyouts should be tied to performance somehow.