Yet Another Media Bias/Influence Thread

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Okay, stay with me on this one. I saw some news analysis that suggested the Obama-phenomenon (Obamonenon?) is a result of the media looking for a story -- in other words, bored with the Hillary as the front runner.

Is this reporting a story or creating a story? Is someone like Obama being promoted by the media so the media has a story to report?

What percentage of the "news" would you say falls into this category - (news is "created" by reporting)
 
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Okay, stay with me on this one. I saw some news analysis that suggested the Obama-phenomenon (Obamonenon?) is a result of the media looking for a story -- in other words, bored with the Hillary as the front runner.

Is this reporting a story or creating a story? Is someone like Obama being promoted by the media so the media has a story to report?

What percentage of the "news" would you say falls into this category - (news is "created" by reporting)

It is most deifinitley a case of the media looking to bring Obama to the head of the line. As proof, look how they jumped on FoxNews for reporting that Obama went to radical islamic school as a boy. They couldn't discredit that report fast enough. And the irony of it is that it is rumored to have originated with the Clinton machine.

As far as percentages go, I wouldn't even be able to venture a guess. But it is irritating when senseless stories are given priority of stories that would be more enlightening, like CAIR, for instance. If you google CAIR (Counsel on American-Islamic Relations), anti-CAIR pops up below it on the search page. Visit both sites. CAIR is becoming more significant b/c they are always crying about the injustices served on them by stereo-types. What you will not find on the CAIR website is any reference to them denouncing terrorism or being pro-West. If you click on the Anti-CAIR website directly below it on the google search, you'll find that it is chocked full of information regarding CAIR ties to terrorism and the number of staff members serving time for terrorist plots and ties. AMAZING. Why do we never hear that stuff?
 
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Okay, stay with me on this one. I saw some news analysis that suggested the Obama-phenomenon (Obamonenon?) is a result of the media looking for a story -- in other words, bored with the Hillary as the front runner.

Is this reporting a story or creating a story? Is someone like Obama being promoted by the media so the media has a story to report?

Short answer. Media did not create the Obama candidacy. Obama did with his speech to the Democratic convention. He flat out wowed the public. Even my mother, who only passes through political television, went out of her way to tell me she had seen that speech and was amazed by the man. Obama is a story because he has captured an audience. Obama is being reported, not created.

Well, kind of a short answer.... relative to say Jakez...
:shades:
 
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I don't think Obama was created by the media. However, the media attention has fueled the Obama fire.

Further, I don't think the media acts in a monolithic way. However, I do think they individually are searching for "entertainment" value. In this case, the Obamanon is unique and exciting. It brings in viewers and sells papers.

The point then is that you see a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts where increased media attention leads to increased media attention.
 
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The point then is that you see a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts where increased media attention leads to increased media attention.

I'll give you a sort of wishy washy, yeah OK, on that one....

I see where you are going, but your snowball had a seed and that seed was genuine interest in what the guy was saying....
 
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I'll give you a sort of wishy washy, yeah OK, on that one....

I see where you are going, but your snowball had a seed and that seed was genuine interest in what the guy was saying....


No doubt. The stories are there - not manufactured. However, the relative interest shown by the media collectively determines to some extent which stories have legs (in other words, its not only based on the merit of the story itself). No doubt Obama is an interesting story (and interesting man).

I'm not complaining about it - just making an observation.
 
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I would say the same thing has happened for people like Rudy G. as well; especially after 9/11.
 
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Faux news got their story from insight magazine an ultra right wing mag owned by WA times owned by rev. moon I love how fox uses (some people) as the source for most of their stories once in a while it would be nice to have names but I do not expect anything less from fox.
 
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Faux news got their story from insight magazine an ultra right wing mag owned by WA times owned by rev. moon I love how fox uses (some people) as the source for most of their stories once in a while it would be nice to have names but I do not expect anything less from fox.

Faux News > Communist News Network
 
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Names don't always help -- see for example the repeated use of an Iraqi police officer (by the AP) as a source of negative news in Iraq. Unfortunately, while the person is named - no one can verify that he is actually a real person!
They might help when it's probably Roger Ailes as the (some people) they refer to. the same Roger Ailes who was a republican strategist and white house aid to nixon who happens to be the same Roger Ailes who helped produce Rush Limbaughs FAILED tv show who happens to be the president at fox news.
biased how could somene with thoses credentials be biased.:peace2:
 
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Someone who uses the term Faux News is calling me out for using Communist News Network? Nice.

I think I would have to agree.

loser.jpg
 
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Can't we all just agree that both play to their own "side" I try to wathc a little of both; take it all in and feel that by doing so that I come out with a more balanced perspective.

Seriously thogh - how can anyone argue that either is balanced?
 
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Can't we all just agree that both play to their own "side" I try to wathc a little of both; take it all in and feel that by doing so that I come out with a more balanced perspective.

Seriously thogh - how can anyone argue that either is balanced?

I think Reuters is better as a pure source. It's when you couple a story with so called "analysts" views that the facts and perspective become skewed.
 
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It's when you couple a story with so called "analysts" views that the facts and perspective become skewed.


yep - you go that right - all of the talke radio people slant severely to their chosen direction and tend to bend most everything. These days its pretty difficult to get down to just the facts.
 
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Seriously thogh - how can anyone argue that either is balanced?

I agree, I think every news source has some bias. Fox definitely leans right, CNN definitely leans left. Others may not lean as much in either direction.

My larger point is that while the media claims to be an objective observer, they actually "make" (maybe too strong a word) news through their reporting. They are not an outsider looking in an reporting, they play a role in creating the situation they are reporting on.

I think the Peyton Manning example fits here. There is a perception that colors virtually every news story about PM -- he chokes in big games. If you look at the facts (actual performance) you'll see that he has performed at the highest level in some big games, he has also performed to his average and below his average. Further if you look at other playoff QB's you would see a similar pattern. Yet, the media perpetuates the image to such an extend that they ignore the facts and have created their own reality.

IMHO, it is a combination of rush to get a story out and a quest to have "buzz" in the news.
 
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IMHO, it is a combination of rush to get a story out and a quest to have "buzz" in the news.

BINGO - a lot of times you end up finding out that the whole story is not being represented. Much like reality TV they take the parts that get attention and run with it - forget the finer details and how the situation developed.
 
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In the past week, many of you have read a now thoroughly-debunked story by Insight Magazine, owned by the Washington Times, which cites unnamed sources close to a political campaign that claim Senator Obama was enrolled for “at least four years” in an Indonesian “Madrassa”. The article says the “sources” believe the Madrassa was “espousing Wahhabism,” a form of radical Islam. Insight Magazine published these allegations without a single named source, and without doing any independent reporting to confirm or deny the allegations. Fox News quickly parroted the charges, and Fox and Friends host Steve Doocy went so far as to ask, “Why didn’t anybody ever mention that that man right there was raised — spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father — as a Muslim and was educated in a Madrassa?”
All of the claims about Senator Obama raised in the Insight Magazine piece were thoroughly debunked by CNN, which, instead of relying on unnamed sources, sent a reporter to Obama’s former school in Jakarta to check the facts.
If Doocy or the staff at Fox and Friends had taken [time] to check their facts, or simply made a call to his office, they would have learned that Senator Obama was not educated in a Madrassa, was not raised as a Muslim, and was not raised by his father – an atheist Obama met once in his life before he died.
Later in the day, Fox News host John Gibson again discussed the Insight Magazine story without any attempt to independently confirm the charges.
All of the claims about Senator Obama’s faith and education raised in the Insight Magazine story and repeated on Fox News are false. Senator Obama was raised in a secular household in Indonesia by his stepfather and mother. Obama’s stepfather worked for a U.S. oil company, and sent his stepson to two years of Catholic school, as well as two years of public school. As Obama described it, “Without the money to go to the international school that most expatriate children attended, I went to local Indonesian schools and ran the streets with the children of farmers, servants, tailors, and clerks.” [The Audacity of Hope, p. 274]
To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago. Furthermore, the Indonesian school Obama attended in Jakarta is a public school that is not and never has been a Madrassa.
These malicious, irresponsible charges are precisely the kind of politics the American people have grown tired of, and that Senator Obama is trying to change by focusing on bringing people together to solve our common problems.

:whistling:
 
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FoxNews: "Hi there, Mr. or Mrs. Obama rep., can you verify whether or not Barrack Hussein Obama either attended a Madressa or was raised Muslim?"

Obama Rep: "What do you want me to say, here? are you aware that he is running for President?"

FoxNews: "So, is that a no?"

Obama Rep: "Yes"

FoxNews: "So he is a devout Christian and believes in the word of God and that Jesus is his savior?"

Obama Rep: "Uh...yes"

FoxNews: "And when did this happen?"

Obama Rep: "When he found out he'd be in politics upon coming to Chicago."

FoxNews: "I see."
 
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FoxNews: "Hi there, Mr. or Mrs. Obama rep., can you verify whether or not Barrack Hussein Obama either attended a Madressa or was raised Muslim?"

Obama Rep: "What do you want me to say, here? are you aware that he is running for President?"

FoxNews: "So, is that a no?"

Obama Rep: "Yes"

FoxNews: "So he is a devout Christian and believes in the word of God and that Jesus is his savior?"

Obama Rep: "Uh...yes"

FoxNews: "And when did this happen?"

Obama Rep: "When he found out he'd be in politics upon coming to Chicago."

FoxNews: "I see."

You need to watch some other channels.
 
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CNN: "Hi there, Mr. or Mrs. Obama rep., can you verify whether or not Barrack Hussein Obama either attended a Madressa or was raised Muslim?"

Obama Rep: "What do you want me to say, here? are you aware that he is running for President?"

CNN: "So, is that a no?"

Obama Rep: "Yes"

CNN: "So he is a devout Christian and believes in the word of God and that Jesus is his savior?"

Obama Rep: "Uh...yes"

CNN: "And when did this happen?"

Obama Rep: "When he found out he'd be in politics upon coming to Chicago."

CNN: "I see. Have you told this to anyone else?"

Obama Rep: "FoxNews called just before you..."

CNN: "I see. Ok, we're behind you guys no matter what. We'll handle it from here."

Happy Now. :)
 

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