You know why bball fans hate Duke?

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I watch a lot of other bball teams play and since I lived in North Carolina for a good part of my life, got interested in ACC basketball, which in my opinion is the toughest bball conference year in and year out.

In North Carolina you fall on either side of the fence, Carolina blue or a dookie, I fell for Carolina Blue. I do have a bias against Dook. With their commercials and on TV every other night, they remind of how the media and networks treat Notre Dame. To be honest, Kryzewski(?) has built a program that deserves the recognition they receive.

Anyhow, watched the Wake Forest game yesterday with Duke. EVERY TIME the blue devils are called for a foul, the expression on the faces of the coaching staff and players is that of disbelief that they could be called for a foul. Of course, that is IF they are called for a foul.

The thing that got me the most however was that going in to the locker room, Kryzweski doesn't even bother with the halftime interview, AN ASSISTANT COACH DID IT! I was thinking who in the hell is this guy and then it hit me, Coach K is so high and mighty he shouldn't be bothered by the masses wanting to hear his take going into the locker room.

Amazing.
 
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Not to mention the fact that Christian Laettener (sp) invented the foot stomp that Marcus Vic used in the Gator bowl.

Dookies have gotten calls for so long, that they really are shocked when a call doesn't go their way. You are not imagining things.
 
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Tradition and how you get it and keep it. I remember the Michael Jordan days, the great 4 corner stall offense of Dean Smith. I also remember the going to the ACC Tournament in Greensboro and not even considering that Preppy team called Duke even making it out of the first round. What happened? Pretty simple. Get you a quality coach at a quality school and success is just around the corner. In order to achieve greatness you much surround yourself with great people, facilities, students.

I think you will have to agree, Duke has done all of these things. And yes it can once again happen to North Carolina, but please don't bring back the 4 corner stall offense.
 
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(Volunteer @ Jan 9 said:
I watch a lot of other bball teams play and since I lived in North Carolina for a good part of my life, got interested in ACC basketball, which in my opinion is the toughest bball conference year in and year out.

In North Carolina you fall on either side of the fence, Carolina blue or a dookie, I fell for Carolina Blue. I do have a bias against Dook. With their commercials and on TV every other night, they remind of how the media and networks treat Notre Dame. To be honest, Kryzewski(?) has built a program that deserves the recognition they receive.

Anyhow, watched the Wake Forest game yesterday with Duke. EVERY TIME the blue devils are called for a foul, the expression on the faces of the coaching staff and players is that of disbelief that they could be called for a foul. Of course, that is IF they are called for a foul.

The thing that got me the most however was that going in to the locker room, Kryzweski doesn't even bother with the halftime interview, AN ASSISTANT COACH DID IT! I was thinking who in the hell is this guy and then it hit me, Coach K is so high and mighty he shouldn't be bothered by the masses wanting to hear his take going into the locker room.

Amazing.
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There are several high profile coaches that occasionally allow assistants to do those interviews. Knight, Pitino, Olsen, Huggins, and Calipari come to mind. It helps perpare the assistants for dealing with the media when they have their own program. Giving assistants that kind of exposure helps you bring in and retain good assistants.
 
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"Anyhow, watched the Wake Forest game yesterday with Duke. EVERY TIME the blue devils are called for a foul, the expression on the faces of the coaching staff and players is that of disbelief that they could be called for a foul. Of course, that is IF they are called for a foul."

I'm sorry, I really am, but this type of thinking is nothing short of laughable, especially considering the fact that it's coming from a Tarhole fan. Do you even watch The Tarholes bench? Ever since the days of Dean it's been the same way. Specifically the managers, scrubs and graduate assistants on the end of the bench.

This mentality of Duke getting all the calls is simply hogwash, brewed up by zealous Tarheel fans and simple minded, half- twit writers. I'd really like to hear what Tubby Smith, Rick Majerus, John Wooden, John Thompson, and even the Great Dean himself would say regarding the topic. The samrt money would say that indeed, these great coaches would recognize greatness, first and foremost. Simple as that.

All I'm saying is the argument is weak, and could be used for any top-tier NCAA team, in just about any sport. It's the price you pay when you have an upper echelon program. Carolina basketball fans should realize this, and think about it, before being critical of any other programs...

:twocents:
 
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(Lexvol @ Jan 9 said:
Not to mention the fact that Christian Laettener (sp) invented the foot stomp that Marcus Vic used in the Gator bowl.
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I was telling someone about that incident yesterday - man I hated that guy - he should have been booted from that game.
 
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Perfect explanation of why I can't stand UNC or Duke. I've eased up on Duke lately for whatever reason... still could do with out the Tarheels.
 
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(UTGRADnNC @ Jan 9 said:
"Anyhow, watched the Wake Forest game yesterday with Duke. EVERY TIME the blue devils are called for a foul, the expression on the faces of the coaching staff and players is that of disbelief that they could be called for a foul. Of course, that is IF they are called for a foul."

I'm sorry, I really am, but this type of thinking is nothing short of laughable, especially considering the fact that it's coming from a Tarhole fan. Do you even watch The Tarholes bench? Ever since the days of Dean it's been the same way. Specifically the managers, scrubs and graduate assistants on the end of the bench.

This mentality of Duke getting all the calls is simply hogwash, brewed up by zealous Tarheel fans and simple minded, half- twit writers. I'd really like to hear what Tubby Smith, Rick Majerus, John Wooden, John Thompson, and even the Great Dean himself would say regarding the topic. The samrt money would say that indeed, these great coaches would recognize greatness, first and foremost. Simple as that.

All I'm saying is the argument is weak, and could be used for any top-tier NCAA team, in just about any sport. It's the price you pay when you have an upper echelon program. Carolina basketball fans should realize this, and think about it, before being critical of any other programs...

:twocents:
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Don't try to defend them Dookies. Just WATCH the games. Nothing is trumped up. All you need are two eyes. And by the way, are you saying thgat UNC (2005 National Basketball Champions) doesn't have an upper echelon program?
 
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(wncvolfan @ Jan 9 said:
Don't try to defend them Dookies. Just WATCH the games. Nothing is trumped up. All you need are two eyes. And by the way, are you saying thgat UNC (2005 National Basketball Champions) doesn't have an upper echelon program?
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Actually, that's the exact opposite of what I was saying.

"It's the price you pay when you have an upper echelon program. Carolina basketball fans should realize this, and think about it, before being critical of any other programs..."

That's a compliment. You TarHole fans are way too touchy. Thanks for proving my point, however, that Carolina fans are quick to jump to conclusions, especially in terms of calls going Duke's way.

 
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(UTGRADnNC @ Jan 9 said:
Actually, that's the exact opposite of what I was saying.

"It's the price you pay when you have an upper echelon program. Carolina basketball fans should realize this, and think about it, before being critical of any other programs..."

That's a compliment. You TarHole fans are way too touchy. Thanks for proving my point, however, that Carolina fans are quick to jump to conclusions, especially in terms of calls going Duke's way.
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I don't see that you made any point and I fail to see any compliment in what you try to say. But back to the original subject.
The originator of this thread charged that the Dookies get all the calls and are shocked if they don't. And the originator is right. I've been watching this crap for 45 yearsand since a crook named Hank Nichols was the premiere ref in the ACC. Everytime the 'Heels played at Cameron and Nichols was calling the game, the Tarheels were each handed a bottle of Astroglide (I'm sure you've heard of it) because it was a cinch they were gonna get screwed. And they always did. And in case you're interested, it's not Tarholes, it's Tarheels, Dookie in disguise.
 
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(wncvolfan @ Jan 9 said:
I don't see that you made any point and I fail to see any compliment in what you try to say. But back to the original subject.
The originator of this thread charged that the Dookies get all the calls and are shocked if they don't. And the originator is right. I've been watching this crap for 45 yearsand since a crook named Hank Nichols was the premiere ref in the ACC. Everytime the 'Heels played at Cameron and Nichols was calling the game, the Tarheels were each handed a bottle of Astroglide (I'm sure you've heard of it) because it was a cinch they were gonna get screwed. And they always did. And in case you're interested, it's not Tarholes, it's Tarheels, Dookie in disguise.
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Cry me a river....blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

You fail to see any compliment because you're so blinded by your hatred for Duke basketball. I too grew up in North Carolina, and chose to attend the University of Tennessee over the 'whine' and cheese crowd in Chapel Hill, but that's besides the point.

Keep on believeing that Duke gets all the calls though, I'm sure there are plenty of other conpsiracy theorists out there who agree with you. However one only needs to look back to last years Carolina/Duke matchup at the Dean Dome to see it's simply not true, and furthermore, idiotic to continue with that sentiment...But WalMart Carolina fans will always be that way.

TarHole. TarHole. Tarhole. :gun: :lol: :gun: :lol: :gun: :lol: :gun: :lol:
 
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To answer the question posed by the thread starter...

Basketball fans hate Duke because somewhere along the way, Duke probably beat their favorite school and ended their dream at winning the Championship (aside from UNC with whom there is a mutual hatred.) Duke beat UNLV in the final four, KU in the championship, UK in the Elite 8, Purdue and the Big Dogg, etc. It always seems that Duke puts out teams that have a legitimate shot at the title and does it in closely contested, dagger in the heart battles. Poor reason to hate another team, however, apparently thats why some in this thread also hate Tom Brady.
 
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(Lexvol @ Jan 9 said:
Not to mention the fact that Christian Laettener (sp) invented the foot stomp that Marcus Vic used in the Gator bowl.
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I live among a bunch of Kentucky fans, and they always bring that incident up as a reason to hate Duke, as Laettner stomped one of their proud boys in blue. I have asked every one of them to name the Kentucky player that was stomped and have never gotten the correct answer.

Don't get me wrong--it was a classless move--although I don't put it on a par with the Vick kick. It was more of a "I have bested you and will now stand over you with my foot on your chest in triumph," than an attempt to injure. I believe the stomp as a reason is an alibi, and the real reason UK fans hate Duke is because blue looks better on the Dukies.

Bonus Trivia: Who was the UK player involved in the stomping?

Hint: Rick Pitino kicked him a hell of a lot farther than Christian
 
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Dook does get favorable officiating from the refs and have for yrs...if you cant see that then you are either a Dook fan..or blind. Also, Coach K has been letting his Head asst coach do the interviews at halftime for a couple yrs...it definitely makes him look too good and snobbish!
 
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UNC is the same way when it comes to getting special treatment... it is fun watching Duke and UNC fans argue over that though :lol:
 
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(tidwell @ Jan 15 said:
UNC is the same way when it comes to getting special treatment... it is fun watching Duke and UNC fans argue over that though :lol:
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That is true..although the UNC fans will admit it...and Dook fans will never see it! :lol:
 
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Aw, man...

Nobody wants to take a poke at my trivia question?

By the way, Duke may get the benefit of some calls. High profile coaches and teams often do, especially at wild home gyms. But if I had to pick one BB team that seems to get more help from officials, NCAA eligibility committees, and tournament seeding committees it would be those self same Ky Wildcats.
 
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Well, I guess I'll take my trivia answer to the grave. It has just always baffled me that UK fans are so incensed at the stomp but cannot remember who got stomped. Most of the time if I am generous enough to provide the answer, they do not remember the stompee even playing for the Cats.

My point, I guess, is that the stomping has very little to do with hatred of the Blue Devils. For some, I suppose, they are just easy to hate.
 
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(cotton @ Jan 11 said:
I live among a bunch of Kentucky fans, and they always bring that incident up as a reason to hate Duke, as Laettner stomped one of their proud boys in blue. I have asked every one of them to name the Kentucky player that was stomped and have never gotten the correct answer.

Don't get me wrong--it was a classless move--although I don't put it on a par with the Vick kick. It was more of a "I have bested you and will now stand over you with my foot on your chest in triumph," than an attempt to injure. I believe the stomp as a reason is an alibi, and the real reason UK fans hate Duke is because blue looks better on the Dukies.

Bonus Trivia: Who was the UK player involved in the stomping?

Hint: Rick Pitino kicked him a hell of a lot farther than Christian
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The Kentucky fans you know are either younger than 12 or not real bright. Aminu Timberlake was the one who got the side of his head stomped by that moron Chrisian Laettner. Is that why I hate Duke? Yes. Yes it is.

On a side note Timberlake didn't graduate as a Wildcat. He ended up transferring to Southern Illinois...
 
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(BlueBaron @ Jan 20 said:
The Kentucky fans you know are either younger than 12 or not real bright. Aminu Timberlake was the one who got the side of his head stomped by that moron Chrisian Laettner. Is that why I hate Duke? Yes. Yes it is.

On a side note Timberlake didn't graduate as a Wildcat. He ended up transferring to Southern Illinois...
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You are correct on the trivia question. You win a lifetime exemption of my derision for not knowing the answer to that question. Timberlake's "transfer" was, at least in part, encouraged by Pitino, as he made a habit of using transfers, both in and out, to upgrade the talent levels of his teams (hence my hint that Pitino kicked him farther than Laettner.)

And I also agree that the UK fans I know are not too bright. Judging by your Rupp screenname, I'm guessing you also know a lot of Cat fans. Do you have a different perspective?

I still stick to my original theory that one player's unsportsmanlike act that occurred 14 years ago is not the reason most of the Blue faithful hate the other Blue faithful, although it is commonly set forth as such. I saw Ramel Bradley throw an elbow in the West Virgina game as the players were gathering at the free throw line. Is that a reason to hate UK? I say no, but I don't like them anyway :nener:
 
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(cotton @ Jan 25 said:
You are correct on the trivia question. You win a lifetime exemption of my derision for not knowing the answer to that question. Timberlake's "transfer" was, at least in part, encouraged by Pitino, as he made a habit of using transfers, both in and out, to upgrade the talent levels of his teams (hence my hint that Pitino kicked him farther than Laettner.)

And I also agree that the UK fans I know are not too bright. Judging by your Rupp screenname, I'm guessing you also know a lot of Cat fans. Do you have a different perspective?

I still stick to my original theory that one player's unsportsmanlike act that occurred 14 years ago is not the reason most of the Blue faithful hate the other Blue faithful, although it is commonly set forth as such. I saw Ramel Bradley throw an elbow in the West Virgina game as the players were gathering at the free throw line. Is that a reason to hate UK? I say no, but I don't like them anyway :nener:
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I'm a Kentucky fan and I did hate Duke for a long-time because of that incident. It was the culmination of a dislike for Laettner and Hurley. It also wasn't that Laettner hit the winner in one of the best games of all times - it was just that I didn't like the guy and when he stomped Timberlake it was confirmation to me of what an ass he was.

That said - I have a tremendous amount of respect for Coach K and what he has achieved. I'm okay with Duke, I just hate some of the players that are synonymous with Duke basketball.
 
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