You never know in the SEC

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milohimself

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Could it be the tides are turning? The SEC has been known for a lot of things in its recent history, some good, some not so good. It has been known to be clearly the best football conference in recent collective history. Not quite year-to-year, but close. The program passion is unmatched. Game attendance is through the roof. The stadiums are as intimidating as any in the country. Ohio State is the only other place in the country that really has any sort of comparable experience.

Of course, not all of the SEC's notoriety has been flattering. The phrase "recruiting scandal" is almost inextricably tied to the whole conference by the college football-watching public in the rest of the country. A lot of the fans can be complete nutjobs, as evidenced by horror stories you invariably get from all fans, be it Florida, Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, South Carolina, etc. Only those fanbases that are so humbled by their program's complete lack of recent success have no stories about them. Why is that?

If there's one thing most notable to me about the SEC in recent history, it's the incredible disparity between the teams at the top and those at the bottom. Sure, there are some occassional 'tweeners, but as one VN poster recently stated it, "it's generally feast or famine in the SEC."

Kentucky has a combined 4 wins over Tennessee, Georgia and Florida between 1985 and 2005. That's 4-56 for those that arent big on counting. Vanderbilt posts preciesely the same record. South Carolina hasn't faired much better since it joined the SEC in 1992, posting a 7-35 record against UTK, UGA and UF. Conditions in the SEC West are not quite as bad, but there is still a noticeable disparity between Arkansas/Ole Miss/Mississippi St. and Auburn/LSU/Alabama.

Most of these schools arent even competitive... All the lower-half schools have been the victims of numerous blowouts. In addition to a usually weak non-conference schedule, getting to .500 was no big deal.

But it seems as if the gap is closing... The top teams don't seem quite as dominant, although still very good, and the bottom teams seem to be picking things up a been.

Generally speaking, the bottom feeders aren't quite the experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory they once were.

As Tennessee fans, we have to be able to openly admit that Fulmer's failure to beat Spurrier's Florida squads and Randy Sander's subsequent replacement of David Cutcliffe has dragged down our standing as a program. We went from being a step away from dynasty to a sub .500 season.

Other major schools are having problems as well. Georgia hasn't necesarily been a stellar representative of the SEC, during Richt's reign as the king of the East. Florida is still working on climbing its way out of the hole that Zook put them in. Most are predicting nigh disaster for LSU due to the hire of Les Miles. Tuberville, while getting fabulous talent for Auburn, is infrequently able to put it together. The one season he does manage to do it, USC and Oklahoma look outstanding and the Tigers suffer the misfortune of a D-IAA team on the schedule, and an SEC schedule about as easy as they come. Alabama has never been quite the same since their probation.

On the other hand, you've got Arkansas, Ole Miss and South Carolina who all seem to be inching their way too success. Kentucky and Mississippi State are a long ways off, but most of us recognize they could build themselves into respectable programs. Vanderbilt... Well, I'll be realisic. Vanderbilt's football program is hopeless.

But the performances have been shining through. Vanderbilt has managed victories over us and Georiga in consecutive years, Arkansas controls its own destiny in the SEC West, and Orgeron appears to be quite on to something at Ole Miss.

Yes, I think the top of the SEC is slowing being diluted. Yes, I think the bottom is starting, slowly, to catch up. The conference will be truly tougher top to bottom, instead of just at the top and laughably bad at the bottom.

Where does this matter to us Tennessee fans, though? The window is opening, guys. No doubt about it, with powers combined, Fulmer, Cutcliffe and Chavis form a pretty damned good coaching trio. Spurrier just happened to be better last time. The path may now be clear. Meyer may be building another big-time program, and Richt will come back. But neither will be as dominant as Spurrier was. Should leave the window wide open for Tennessee to take over, and at least put a few SEC titles together. Now's the time, Fulmer, prove your worth.

Will it happen? In the SEC, you never know.
 
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I totally agree. I remember just 10 years ago the only real big dogs in the SEC were Florida, Tennessee, and Alabama. Now you have the rise of Georgia, Auburn, LSU, and South Carolina.

What is it going to look like ten years from now. Kind of Scares me.
 
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Depends on how you look at it... I think the games before which a team could sleep through and still win are starting to go away, while the behemoths on the schedule are not as intimidating as they once were. I think it's tougher this way. To me, it says more to make it through a schedule where your team has to play fairly tough every week rather than beat a few really good teams and a bunch of cupcakes.
 
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Good work Milo. I honestly expected UGA and SC both to be a bit down this year. I did not expect Ark to be as tough as they are given the fact that a true freshman qb is now their go to guy.

One could easily argue that the SEC will be much tougher next year than it is today given the qb situations at these schools, and the fact that Leak is really not cut out to run Meyer's offense.
 
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Part of this trend can be contributed to the defenses being stingier and the new clock rules. In the SEC you have to play defense to win. Every team top to bottom can play defense. The new clock rules limit the number of plays your offense can run. Add this to the defenses dominating and the scores really go down. Lower scoring games do not allow much room for mistakes. All it takes is one or two big plays and you just lost.
 
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Good post Milo. and i agree with Lexvol...its going to get tougher. LSU, TN, FL, GA, ARK, AUB, BAma and maybe even USC and OLE Miss will have much firmer ground when it comes to the qb situation in the immediate future, and all have playmakers on both sides of the ball. So as we all look around the league and see everyone else getting better, when i take a look at our own situation, we look to be on the upswing as well.

the SEC will continue to beat up on each other because as you said, the situation at the top of the conference is/will be getting very muddled in the near future.

As for TN taking control, i don't that we will necessarily do that, for the reasons mentioned above, but i do think it's inevitable that TN will be heading in to each of the next few years a legit SEC title contender....just as will Aub, FL, UGA, LSU, Bama etc...

it's going to be real interesting that's for sure.
 
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Do you think the atmospheres are exclusive to the SEC? I have never been to a PAC-10 venue, however, I have been to my share of Big XII, Big Ten, and SEC games, and from my experiences, there is not that much difference in the gameday experience. If you are cheering for a team other than Nebraska, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Texas Tech, K State, etc. and you are at their, respective, home stadiums, you are going to hear about it, and quite possibly end up in a fight. I have had whole cans of beer thrown at me in Ann Arbor, batteries in Lincoln, watched about 10 KU and KSU fans brawl outside of a bar in Manhattan.

I think the average stadium sizes in the Big Ten, Big XII, and SEC are relatively equivalent.

The bottom feeders in the Big Ten, XII, and SEC are pretty consistently bad, Indiana and Northwestern, Baylor, Iowa State, and KU, and Vandy and Kentucy, respectively.

I just believe there are many more similarities between the major conferences than each respective conference's fans care to admit.
 

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