Your NEW SINGLE SEASON HOLDS KING

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JTrainDavis

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Is Luke Gregerson. In case you have a thing for ridiculous statistics.
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The BS stats outside of the base pitching numbers that are used to place a number on a relievers effectiveness are just dumb.
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All right, I'll be the contrary guy. If we're going to hyperventilate and spasm over "saves," then there's no reason why "holds" shouldn't be regarded as a meaningful stat too. Most modern "saves" don't occur without somebody successfully performing a "hold" beforehand.

I put them both in air quotes because they're both stupidly arbitrary. The only difference is that "holds" have been treated with the contempt that they deserve, while "saves" have corrupted the game by screwing with the way managers use their bullpens. Bottom of the ninth, three run lead, bottom of the order coming up? Cue "Enter Sandman!" Chalk another one up for Scott Boras! But nobody's agent goes into FA negotiations talking about how his client is indispensable because of all the holds he chalked up.
 
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#12
Exactly, if you are going to give so much love to closers why wouldn't you do the same for a setup guy? This guy has been one of the best bullpen pitchers in the majors this year. Bet you Braves fans are wishing you had the combo of Gregerson, Adams and Bell to finish up games. Damn shame that ESPN didn't cover the hold record more.
 
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#13
A heck of a hold for Huston Street Thursday against the Mets. Sadly more and more people are trying to legitimize this "stat"

Colorado Rockies
Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA

H Street
(H, 1) 0.1 3 2 2 1 0 1 30-17 2.61
 
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#16
I feel like this thread is directed at me :)

Next year, we are going to take out holds, and go with six starters next year.
 

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