junder13
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Most of us enjoy playing couch coach/recruiting coordinator (I always have) and so heres a thread where that is actually intended. Get excited, D4H.
I am curious to know who everyone thinks is underrated/overrated based on the current end-of-June 247 composite ranking. Since ratings will change before NSD, we can look back and see who has an eye for talent (or just lucky). A better mindset, though, would be basing this not on how you think rankings will end but on who you think is over/under rated relative to the college production they'll have. Try not to be tempted to rate someone based on who they may be currently committed to (like me rating a FL RB partly bc he's a Ark commit and will likely produce as a RB for the pig sooies -- I broke my own rule there).
Heres how well do this:
Lets have three separate lists: (1) Current commits, (2) prospects that have visited or publicly have stated they intend to visit, and (3) recruits who have shown no interest in UT, no longer have interest, or are completely unrealistic at this juncture. There is no set number of players to list. You can substantiate your list with specific thoughts on players or simply just list the players.
And .here ..we......go!
Current Commits
Underrated theres a lot in our current class to choose from
1) Theo Jackson (#521)
2) LaTrell Bumphus (#440)
3) Kivon Bennett (#453)
4) Chase Rogers (#850)
5) Solon Page (#910)
Overrated
*Seeing as how most of our recruits are not highly rated at this time, its hard to have any current commits overrated, unless you view Maleik Gray or Eric Crosby as overrated, which I do not.
Prospects
Underrated
1) WV S Derrek Pitts (#437)
2) FL APB Darrian Felix (#600)
3) LA OT Adrian Ealy (#249)
4) WV OT Riley Locklear (#653)
5) TN RB Ty Chandler (#111)
6) GA CB Yusuf Corker (#315)
7) WV OG Billy Ross (#360)
8) TX OT Chuck Filiaga (#93)
9) AL DE LaBryan Ray (#102)
10) TN OT Obinna Eze (#212)
11) AL LB Kenny Britt (#313)
12) GA WR Justin Marshall (#399)
13) TN OT Trey Smith (#48)
14) NC LB Hamsah Nasirildeen (#136)
15) TN CB TJ Carter (#467)
16) CA QB Jack Sears (#205)
17) VA DE/DT Elijah Conliffe (#443)
18) NC LB Justin Foster (#79)
*not sure how underrated TN WRs Javonta Payton (#371) and Zack Dobson (#760) are currently, but I hope they both are if we're hotly pursuing them
Overrated
1) GA OT Tony Gray (#127)
2) GA DE Malik Herring (#99)
3) CO LB Santino Marchiol (#269)
4) GA DE Michael Allen (#436)
5) NC OT TJ Moore (#226)
6) VA DT Breyon Gaddy (#275)
Never or No Longer Interested or Unrealistic
Underrated
1) TX OT Walker Little (#57)
2) FL WR Michael Harley (#392) WVU commit
3) OH CB Amir Riep (#115) - likely OSU
4) TX WR Omar Manning (#158)
5) OH TE Matt Dotson (#291)
6) MO OG Marquis Hayes (#362) - likely Mizzu
7) PA OT Joshua Lugg (#191) ND commit
8) LA WR Devonta Smith (#65)
9) NC DE Jake Lawler (#148) UNC commit
10) FL LB VanDarius Cowan (#84) Bama commit
11) TX OT Grayson Reed (#206) A&M commit
12) FL QB Mac Jones (#280) Bama commit
13) FL OT Blake Vinson (#493) Clemson commit
14) CT WR Tarik Black (#123)
15) CA WR Tyjon Lindsey (#28)
16) AL WR Noah Igbinoghene (#327)
17) FL OG Navaughn Donaldson (#98) Miami commit
18) CAN RB Chuba Hubbard (#322)
19) OH DE James Hudson (#335) UK decommit lol
20) FL WR Jordan Pouncey (#669) ND commit
21) CA CB Elijah Blades (#222) UF commit
22) TN APB Chase Hayden (#428)
23) FL RB Maleek Williams (#874) Ark commit
24) TN S Kaleb Oliver (#586) MSU commit
25) FL CB Trajan Bandy (#235) OU commit
Overrated
1) FL WR James Robinson (#39) - Clemson lean
2) GA LB Jaden Hunter (#128) - UGA commit
3) FL ATH Bruce Judson (#284)
4) TN WR Amari Rodgers (#133) - Clemson commit
5) GA DE Robert Beal (#30)
6) TX WR KD Nixon (#290)
7) FL OG Tedarrell Sltaon (#35)
8) GA S Richard LeCounte (#37) - UGA commit
9) FL DE Jarez Parks (#45)
10) FL LB Tyler Dunning (#324) - MSU commit
11) CA DE Jaelan Phillips (#7) - UCLA commit
12) GA DE/DT Aaron Sterling (#383) - Bama commit
Discussion
Commits
Underrated Marquez Bembry (#626) will be a popular choice in the top 5 and I almost put him at #5 but I started thinking about how under-utilized Chris Weatherd was while here, and I view this guy as a HS version of him.
Overrated A couple days ago, I would have had KD Nixon at #1 (I stated my disapproval in his thread before his decommitment). I do not view any of our current commits as overrated, although that does not mean much bc most are rated middle-of-the-pack or worse.
*Honestly, I have not watched film on several of our Orange Carpet Day commits, so I am probably not the best source for an opinion on the current class. Nevertheless, here are the ones I like at this time (in order based a combination of position need + perceived ability):
Kivon Bennett (#453), Maleik Gray (#59), Eric Crosby (#193), Cheyenne Labruzza (#439), Theo Jackson (#521), LaTrell Bumphus (#440), Jaquan Henderson (#400), Chase Rogers (#850), Princeton Fant (#526), Solon Page (#910), and Brent Cimaglia (#n/a).
Bennett is ahead of Jackson and Bumphus because hes in a position of greater need and will almost certainly have an opportunity to have a more immediate impact. But I view Jackson and Bumphus as more underrated.
Here are the ones I am suspicious are not likely to be a factor on our roster (in order):
Mo Burnam (#912), Tre Lawson (#540), Jacquez Jones (#836), Trey Coleman (#902), Marquez Bembry (#626)
Note: I would change my view on Lawson if it was known he was expected to grow into a DT. Same for Bembry, if it was known he bulk up to WDE, I would be more excited about him. As it stands, hes thought to be a lean LB who may come off the edge as a rusher. Problem is, we have two other commits that fit that mold right now (Solon Page, Jaquan Henderson) and several prospects (Gibbs, Pitts).
Lastly, if there's any real interest, I can share my thoughts on my other over/under rankings. Most VN posters complain about the length of my posts, so I'll not do that in this original post. I'm sure this thread is destined for "TL;DR" as it is.
Let's see who yall think are underrated/overrated, since you seem to think the entire 2017 UT commitment list is grossly underrated, ha.
I am curious to know who everyone thinks is underrated/overrated based on the current end-of-June 247 composite ranking. Since ratings will change before NSD, we can look back and see who has an eye for talent (or just lucky). A better mindset, though, would be basing this not on how you think rankings will end but on who you think is over/under rated relative to the college production they'll have. Try not to be tempted to rate someone based on who they may be currently committed to (like me rating a FL RB partly bc he's a Ark commit and will likely produce as a RB for the pig sooies -- I broke my own rule there).
Heres how well do this:
Lets have three separate lists: (1) Current commits, (2) prospects that have visited or publicly have stated they intend to visit, and (3) recruits who have shown no interest in UT, no longer have interest, or are completely unrealistic at this juncture. There is no set number of players to list. You can substantiate your list with specific thoughts on players or simply just list the players.
And .here ..we......go!
Current Commits
Underrated theres a lot in our current class to choose from
1) Theo Jackson (#521)
2) LaTrell Bumphus (#440)
3) Kivon Bennett (#453)
4) Chase Rogers (#850)
5) Solon Page (#910)
Overrated
*Seeing as how most of our recruits are not highly rated at this time, its hard to have any current commits overrated, unless you view Maleik Gray or Eric Crosby as overrated, which I do not.
Prospects
Underrated
1) WV S Derrek Pitts (#437)
2) FL APB Darrian Felix (#600)
3) LA OT Adrian Ealy (#249)
4) WV OT Riley Locklear (#653)
5) TN RB Ty Chandler (#111)
6) GA CB Yusuf Corker (#315)
7) WV OG Billy Ross (#360)
8) TX OT Chuck Filiaga (#93)
9) AL DE LaBryan Ray (#102)
10) TN OT Obinna Eze (#212)
11) AL LB Kenny Britt (#313)
12) GA WR Justin Marshall (#399)
13) TN OT Trey Smith (#48)
14) NC LB Hamsah Nasirildeen (#136)
15) TN CB TJ Carter (#467)
16) CA QB Jack Sears (#205)
17) VA DE/DT Elijah Conliffe (#443)
18) NC LB Justin Foster (#79)
*not sure how underrated TN WRs Javonta Payton (#371) and Zack Dobson (#760) are currently, but I hope they both are if we're hotly pursuing them
Overrated
1) GA OT Tony Gray (#127)
2) GA DE Malik Herring (#99)
3) CO LB Santino Marchiol (#269)
4) GA DE Michael Allen (#436)
5) NC OT TJ Moore (#226)
6) VA DT Breyon Gaddy (#275)
Never or No Longer Interested or Unrealistic
Underrated
1) TX OT Walker Little (#57)
2) FL WR Michael Harley (#392) WVU commit
3) OH CB Amir Riep (#115) - likely OSU
4) TX WR Omar Manning (#158)
5) OH TE Matt Dotson (#291)
6) MO OG Marquis Hayes (#362) - likely Mizzu
7) PA OT Joshua Lugg (#191) ND commit
8) LA WR Devonta Smith (#65)
9) NC DE Jake Lawler (#148) UNC commit
10) FL LB VanDarius Cowan (#84) Bama commit
11) TX OT Grayson Reed (#206) A&M commit
12) FL QB Mac Jones (#280) Bama commit
13) FL OT Blake Vinson (#493) Clemson commit
14) CT WR Tarik Black (#123)
15) CA WR Tyjon Lindsey (#28)
16) AL WR Noah Igbinoghene (#327)
17) FL OG Navaughn Donaldson (#98) Miami commit
18) CAN RB Chuba Hubbard (#322)
19) OH DE James Hudson (#335) UK decommit lol
20) FL WR Jordan Pouncey (#669) ND commit
21) CA CB Elijah Blades (#222) UF commit
22) TN APB Chase Hayden (#428)
23) FL RB Maleek Williams (#874) Ark commit
24) TN S Kaleb Oliver (#586) MSU commit
25) FL CB Trajan Bandy (#235) OU commit
Overrated
1) FL WR James Robinson (#39) - Clemson lean
2) GA LB Jaden Hunter (#128) - UGA commit
3) FL ATH Bruce Judson (#284)
4) TN WR Amari Rodgers (#133) - Clemson commit
5) GA DE Robert Beal (#30)
6) TX WR KD Nixon (#290)
7) FL OG Tedarrell Sltaon (#35)
8) GA S Richard LeCounte (#37) - UGA commit
9) FL DE Jarez Parks (#45)
10) FL LB Tyler Dunning (#324) - MSU commit
11) CA DE Jaelan Phillips (#7) - UCLA commit
12) GA DE/DT Aaron Sterling (#383) - Bama commit
Discussion
Commits
Underrated Marquez Bembry (#626) will be a popular choice in the top 5 and I almost put him at #5 but I started thinking about how under-utilized Chris Weatherd was while here, and I view this guy as a HS version of him.
Overrated A couple days ago, I would have had KD Nixon at #1 (I stated my disapproval in his thread before his decommitment). I do not view any of our current commits as overrated, although that does not mean much bc most are rated middle-of-the-pack or worse.
*Honestly, I have not watched film on several of our Orange Carpet Day commits, so I am probably not the best source for an opinion on the current class. Nevertheless, here are the ones I like at this time (in order based a combination of position need + perceived ability):
Kivon Bennett (#453), Maleik Gray (#59), Eric Crosby (#193), Cheyenne Labruzza (#439), Theo Jackson (#521), LaTrell Bumphus (#440), Jaquan Henderson (#400), Chase Rogers (#850), Princeton Fant (#526), Solon Page (#910), and Brent Cimaglia (#n/a).
Bennett is ahead of Jackson and Bumphus because hes in a position of greater need and will almost certainly have an opportunity to have a more immediate impact. But I view Jackson and Bumphus as more underrated.
Here are the ones I am suspicious are not likely to be a factor on our roster (in order):
Mo Burnam (#912), Tre Lawson (#540), Jacquez Jones (#836), Trey Coleman (#902), Marquez Bembry (#626)
Note: I would change my view on Lawson if it was known he was expected to grow into a DT. Same for Bembry, if it was known he bulk up to WDE, I would be more excited about him. As it stands, hes thought to be a lean LB who may come off the edge as a rusher. Problem is, we have two other commits that fit that mold right now (Solon Page, Jaquan Henderson) and several prospects (Gibbs, Pitts).
Lastly, if there's any real interest, I can share my thoughts on my other over/under rankings. Most VN posters complain about the length of my posts, so I'll not do that in this original post. I'm sure this thread is destined for "TL;DR" as it is.
Let's see who yall think are underrated/overrated, since you seem to think the entire 2017 UT commitment list is grossly underrated, ha.