Recruiting Forum Football Talk LIII

[Big Orange #1]

Hate the IA State Red Chrome helmets. Ditto for Louisville. Glad we didn't get Norvell for HC...better off hiring a Defense first coach.

TRUST.UNCLE.PHIL.

Man knows football and what it will take!!!

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

So the guy is using the OSU Defensive performance to denegrate a school who just hired a coach with the No. 1 defense in all of college football?

Riiiiiight.

I really want you to tweet this to him.

Game over

 

[Nashvegas31]

Lost and unfocused. Too many long developing plays.

Zero rhythm. Tee was so slow getting play calls in they couldn't go tempo.

 

[tim]

Lamar Jackson is just ridiculous. Completion % with his legs... how did they ever lose?

 

[Vfl2407]

I just....

Maybe you....

Later rednecks! Let the debate!

I understand the skepticism.
I too was a non believer in all of the healing powers of lavender. My Vet prescribed it for dog anxiety too.

 

[Ace]

Same. It's a good sign at how lost that offense looked without him though last night

USC offense looked lost and unfocused for much of the season. Tyson Helton is very unproven. Those expecting him to work miracles in Knoxville need to pump the brakes.

 

[amazingGRACE]

Good God grant Williams just ELEVATED. Out of nowhere Lol

 

[Orange And Garnet]

Good God grant Williams just ELEVATED. Out of nowhere Lol

He destroyed that poor guy

 

[InVOLuntary]

And here come the refs.

 

[tim]

USC offense looked lost and unfocused for much of the season. Tyson Helton is very unproven. Those expecting him to work miracles in Knoxville need to pump the brakes.

The hire was quick. So quick it seemed targeted and pre planned. Reminds me of how Saban just finds oc's year after year and they all perform well. We'll see

 

[volinbama256]

The SEC may not win a bowl game...pitiful.

 

[Ace]

The hire was quick. So quick it seemed targeted and pre planned. Reminds me of how Saban just finds oc's year after year and they all perform well. We'll see

He has never really been the play caller at a high level. He has good experience and I hope he does great, but I do not understand those who think he was the master mind of some juggernaut USC offense and trash Tee.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Some sloppy moments in this game for both teams

 

[tim]

He has never really been the play caller at a high level. He has good experience and I hope he does great, but I do not understand those who think he was the master mind of some juggernaut USC offense and trash Tee.

Dont think anyone is trashing Tee, but simply pointing out the reluctance to give him full reigns of the offense at SC. Pointing to his title as OC as his readiness to become our hc makes it completely fair game. Surely if Pruitt was a part time play caller we'd have the same debate.

 

[RikidyBones]

The SEC may not win a bowl game...pitiful.

good.

 

[Ace]

Dont think anyone is trashing Tee, but simply pointing out the reluctance to give him full reigns of the offense at SC. Pointing to his title as OC as his readiness to become our hc makes it completely fair game. Surely if Pruitt was a part time play caller we'd have the same debate.

Yet some are praising Helton who has never had the full reigns of the offense.

 

[tim]

Yet some are praising Helton who has never had the full reigns of the offense.

As OC not HC. See the difference?

 

[RikidyBones]

Yet some are praising Helton who has never had the full reigns of the offense.

he's not the head coach though.

 

[volswillrise12]

I wouldn’t place the blame on Tyson Helton for just scoring 7 points. OSU was the superior team with an elite front 4.

 

[MrVolton]

USC offense looked lost and unfocused for much of the season. Tyson Helton is very unproven. Those expecting him to work miracles in Knoxville need to pump the brakes.

I reckon Helton was in Knoxville last night. Can't agree with you on the unproven part either. He's been special teams coordinator for 6 years at differenct stops. He's had two very successful years as QB/OC under Brohm at WKU, and QB/Co-OC for two years at USC while helping to win a PAC 12 conference title. Beard as WR coach is unproven, and Larry Scott as OC is unproven. Whether Ty Helton is a successful OC at UT remains to be seen, but I would not call him unproven.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Yet some are praising Helton who has never had the full reigns of the offense.

Not at USC but wasn’t he the primary play caller at WKU? I know it was Brohms offense so I don’t think it was full reigns in play calling but he still was the primary play caller I believe. Could be wrong on the year but the year they had the prolific offense that went 11-2 was his playcalling I think.

Edit: can’t find the article that I thought said he called plays at WKU so disregard it.

 

[Ace]

As OC not HC. See the difference?

I am saying Helton is a questionable choice as OC. I think it is unrealistic to believe that USC performed poorly last night because Helton was not there and blame Tee for their poor performance.

We had no business even considering Tee as HC.

 

[jkleno]

I wouldn’t place the blame on Tyson Helton for just scoring 7 points. OSU was the superior team with an elite front 4.

OSU had the best OLINE I may have seen in a decade.

 

[Ace]

Not at USC but wasn’t he the primary play caller at WKU? I know it was Brohms offense so I don’t think it was full reigns in play calling but he still was the primary play caller I believe. Could be wrong on the year but the year they had the prolific offense that went 11-2 was his playcalling I think.

Brohm called plays

 

[Ace]

I reckon Helton was in Knoxville last night. Can't agree with you on the unproven part either. He's been special teams coordinator for 6 years at differenct stops. He's had two very successful years as QB/OC under Brohm at WKU, and QB/Co-OC for two years at USC while helping to win a PAC 12 conference title. Beard as WR coach is unproven, and Larry Scott as OC is unproven. Whether Ty Helton is a successful OC at UT remains to be seen, but I would not call him unproven.

Unproven as an OC - yes