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Wont happen for two reasons: One, ACC teams owe too much for a buyout. Two, SEC already has a Florida and Carolina TV market so, those teams have no added value to the SEC.

If the ACC folds when Clemson and Florida State leave, then it's a moot point. There's no buyout, and no conference granted rights to worry about.

If it didn't fold, losing two TV markets and probably the largest brands in the ACC would most likely give ESPN enough leverage to renegotiate those granted rights, lessening what Clemson and Florida State would owe the conference.
 
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Wont happen for two reasons: One, ACC teams owe too much for a buyout. Two, SEC already has a Florida and Carolina TV market so, those teams have no added value to the SEC.
aTm argued they are a Texas TV market but here comes Texas. As a matter of fact, aTm says they had a "gentleman's agreement" with the SEC that they'd be the only Texas school in the SEC but here comes Texas.

Not that I think Clemson and FSU are coming to the SEC. They're not. This is a "friendly reminder" to Notre Dame that the time has come for them to stop jerking the ACC around and fully commit. Notre Dame has been selfish and has the best of both worlds with a personal NBC TV deal and limited commitment to the ACC for several sports. The ACC needs them in to negotiate a good TV deal or the ACC will get absorbed in the future.

Notre Dame has always been a selfish school and done nothing but look after themselves. That crap can no longer fly in the post-NCAA era.
 
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Clemson issued a statement they haven't talked to the SEC about this but didn't say a law firm on their behalf hadn't so ....
 
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There's a bigger picture that people are missing.

This isn't about "conference expansion." This is about the SEC stripping power away from the NCAA. If the SEC has all the marquee teams, then the SEC is its own boss and the NCAA is irrelevant. It's less a "super-conference" and more an NCAA replacement.

In that sense, it won't matter if the SEC takes 30 teams. The "divisions" or "pods" with the SEC simply become the new conferences.
 
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TX and OU have huge buyouts too.
Even though Texas shares the state with aTm, they bring lots more in-transit value to the SEC than Clemson and Fla St. Buyouts for Tx and Okla is worth it.
 
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aTm argued they are a Texas TV market but here comes Texas. As a matter of fact, aTm says they had a "gentleman's agreement" with the SEC that they'd be the only Texas school in the SEC but here comes Texas.

Not that I think Clemson and FSU are coming to the SEC. They're not. This is a "friendly reminder" to Notre Dame that the time has come for them to stop jerking the ACC around and fully commit. Notre Dame has been selfish and has the best of both worlds with a personal NBC TV deal and limited commitment to the ACC for several sports. The ACC needs them in to negotiate a good TV deal or the ACC will get absorbed in the future.

Notre Dame has always been a selfish school and done nothing but look after themselves. That crap can no longer fly in the post-NCAA era.

I have never liked Notre Dame and this is the reason!
 
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Big 12 GOR ends in 2025. ACC goes through 2036.

ESPN owns ACC TV rights. B12 was split with Fox having first dibs on football.

Speculation is the SEC TV deal post OU and TX should be around 65-70M per team. If that is true (considering the Big 10 is already at 54M+, it makes sense) 2 additional teams will cost ESPN $300M+ per year on top of that (75M per year, per new teams, plus an additional 10M per year or so for current 16 teams. Because no expansion happens unless everyone's money goes up).

The LHN is a money loser. This is a way for ESPN to kill it or to turn it into SECNW 2.

Texas and OU are more valuable pieces than Clemson and FSU.

Breaking up the ACC could benefit B10 and Fox Sports more than SEC and ESPN.

I just don't this happening.
 
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Big 12 GOR ends in 2025. ACC goes through 2036.

ESPN owns ACC TV rights. B12 was split with Fox having first dibs on football.

Speculation is the SEC TV deal post OU and TX should be around 65-70M per team. If that is true (considering the Big 10 is already at 54M+, it makes sense) 2 additional teams will cost ESPN $300M+ per year on top of that (75M per year, per new teams, plus an additional 10M per year or so for current 16 teams. Because no expansion happens unless everyone's money goes up).

The LHN is a money loser. This is a way for ESPN to kill it or to turn it into SECNW 2.

Texas and OU are more valuable pieces than Clemson and FSU.

Breaking up the ACC could benefit B10 and Fox Sports more than SEC and ESPN.

I just don't this happening.
. And you will be wrong Clemson and FSU will be in the SEC soon. Sankey wants 20 teams
 
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North Carolina and Duke could come to the SEC if it expands to 24 teams according to yesterday's edition of The Sports Source which can be viewed on You Tube and was Segment eight of the show.
 
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Clemson officially denied these rumors. UTx and OU never denied the rumors. Their official response was to not comment on "speculation." Fact is ACC is in much better shape than the Big XII both with teams and money.

Unfortunately I fear that CFB is following the path of nascar where chasing money was their number one goal and they ran off their fans in the process. Remember who is ultimately generating all of this money for all of these schools.
 
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There's a bigger picture that people are missing.

This isn't about "conference expansion." This is about the SEC stripping power away from the NCAA. If the SEC has all the marquee teams, then the SEC is its own boss and the NCAA is irrelevant. It's less a "super-conference" and more an NCAA replacement.

In that sense, it won't matter if the SEC takes 30 teams. The "divisions" or "pods" with the SEC simply become the new conferences.
The NCAA is LOOKING for an exit strategy from football. I posted a link previously to the Knight Commission suggestion the NCAA abandon football and let a "new meta organization" created by the conferences oversee football and let the NCAA keep the other sports.

The pro leagues will erode college basketball away from the NCAA and the other college sports might or might not be left for the gutted NCAA or other sports essentially disappear because they're no longer propped up by football/basketball revenue.

It's going to be a fully professional model eventually and the quaint notion of "student athlete" will be as silly as comparing your great grandad's Model A to a Honda Accord Hybrid.

It'll be messy for a few years but we'll get used to it...... well, some of us might die before it sorts completely out but some of y'all will get used to it.
 
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Personally, I’d rather see WVU and VA Tech than FSU and Clemson…

Not enough money in those brands, or TV market share in those geographic regions. Besides, Sankey wants to add to the top of the conference, not to the middle where most of the conference resides at the moment.
 
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It real easy to make ND join the ACC. Idk why the ACC has strong armed them into joint yet. When time comes to set up the season just tell ND to kick rocks and get all other P5 conferences to do the same. That would force them to join. Do the same for ND other sports as well. Just for that extra FU. ND and WVU need to be in the ACC. Clemson and FSU aren't coming to the SEC. Could they? Sure but will they no, imo they wont.
 

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