More NCAA absurdity

#26
#26
It really shouldn't be a surprise that someone other than Tennessee is winning the state. You can't win any state when you change coaches every 4 years. We need stability
BS. There are a lot of factors that go into it. Stability for the sake of stability like you've tried to push for a while now... helps nothing.

Some is geography. K'ville is in a different media market than areas with the highest concentration of talent. Some is growth demographics of the Nashville area population. Some is longstanding pipelines and program relationships that have existed since Fulmer. Some is distance. ATL is much closer to K'ville than Memphis. It isn't much further than Nashville and has far more talent on the whole.

You've pushed this single line for a long time as if "stability" in and of itself while ignoring a coach's results will make a great program. Tolerance of low performing coaches has a cost. You and a few others have never been able to see that.
 
#28
#28
Are we planning to just self investigate until the NCAA goes the way of the Dodo?

they announced that they had completed the investigation in November. Don't believe anything else is happening regarding investigation from UT side. Not sure what they are waiting on. They might be waiting on this to go into effect.

Representatives from campuses and conferences in all three divisions approved a new constitution (PDF) for the Association on Thursday at the NCAA Convention in Indianapolis.

More than 1,000 NCAA members participated in the vote, with 801 voting in favor of the new constitution that, among other changes, provides significant authority to the three divisions to reorganize and restructure. It marks the first major constitution revision since 1997, when each division was provided a high level of autonomy. Thursday's action was only the fourth Association-wide vote since that time.

The new constitution was developed by the Constitution Committee in coordination with feedback from NCAA members in several stages since the summer of 2021, including at November's Special Convention and through surveys and meetings over the past several months.

"This is an important day in college athletics as we continue to evolve to better meet the needs of our student-athletes," NCAA President Mark Emmert said. "I applaud the work of the Constitution Committee and the entire membership for setting a sustainable course for college sports for decades to come."

The new constitution, effective Aug. 1, ensures student-athlete voting representation on each division's presidential body (Division I Board of Directors, Division II Presidents Council and Division III Presidents Council) and the NCAA Board of Governors.

The Board of Governors will reduce its number of members from 21 to nine: six members from the three divisions (four from Division I and one each from Divisions II and III), two independent members and one graduated student-athlete. Another student-athlete will serve as a nonvoting member on the board.

The constitution also includes some existing priorities and principles for the first time. It prohibits pay-for-play but embraces providing additional educational and other benefits, including those for name, image and likeness. It maintains existing revenue allocations and championship opportunities for each division, and each division will have oversight of its own budget, expenditures and financial distribution to its members. The constitution also underscores the importance of both physical and mental health and emphasizes diversity, inclusion and gender equity.

Each division also took the action required to allow it to review division-specific legislation in the constitution and adopt legislation no later than Aug. 1. They also relocated that legislation to appropriate bylaws in each division's manual.

In the coming months, each division will adopt additional changes to support its own governance model. Each division has already begun this work through the Division I Transformation Committee, Division II Implementation Committee and Division III Constitution Advisory Council (PDF).

"The ratification of the constitution is a critical step in our work to better serve our student-athletes and affirm the priorities and principles that guide our work," said Board of Governors chair and Georgetown President John DeGioia. "The new constitution modernizes our governance process and enables all three divisions to adopt additional changes that their member schools and conferences prioritize."
 
#29
#29
BS. There are a lot of factors that go into it. Stability for the sake of stability like you've tried to push for a while now... helps nothing.

Some is geography. K'ville is in a different media market than areas with the highest concentration of talent. Some is growth demographics of the Nashville area population. Some is longstanding pipelines and program relationships that have existed since Fulmer. Some is distance. ATL is much closer to K'ville than Memphis. It isn't much further than Nashville and has far more talent on the whole.

You've pushed this single line for a long time as if "stability" in and of itself while ignoring a coach's results will make a great program. Tolerance of low performing coaches has a cost. You and a few others have never been able to see that.
Look man I'm just pointing out stability is a reason we haven't been able to consistently land top recruits. You can't have stability with poor coaching and poor administrative decisions. I'm not making excuses for anyone but it still comes back to stability. If you don't agree fine. Kentucky having a coach for several years that has shown growth and development has shown recruits stability.
 
#30
#30
A&M hasn't changed coaches like Tennessee has since they have been in the SEC so don't act like they have. They have had stability. The only reason they fired Sumlin is because he was winning 8 games a year. Tennessee coaches have struggled to win 6. Also recruiting in Texas is a lot easier than recruiting in Knoxville. If you can't understand that I don't know what to tell you

Fine, Mizzou then. And Arkansas.
 
#35
#35
The NCAA is about 15 years overdue of being dissolved, disavowed, and burned with fire to a crisp.

Perhaps. But until someone comes up with a better plan for overseeing it? If what you say happens, some politicians will find a way to stick their noses in it. You really want those jugheads running it?
 
#36
#36
BS. There are a lot of factors that go into it. Stability for the sake of stability like you've tried to push for a while now... helps nothing.

Some is geography. K'ville is in a different media market than areas with the highest concentration of talent. Some is growth demographics of the Nashville area population. Some is longstanding pipelines and program relationships that have existed since Fulmer. Some is distance. ATL is much closer to K'ville than Memphis. It isn't much further than Nashville and has far more talent on the whole.

You've pushed this single line for a long time as if "stability" in and of itself while ignoring a coach's results will make a great program. Tolerance of low performing coaches has a cost. You and a few others have never been able to see that.

Eh. It's a fair point. I don't think you should just discard it altogether. Your response comes off too strong.
 
#37
#37
A&M hasn't changed coaches like Tennessee has since they have been in the SEC so don't act like they have. They have had stability. The only reason they fired Sumlin is because he was winning 8 games a year. Tennessee coaches have struggled to win 6. Also recruiting in Texas is a lot easier than recruiting in Knoxville. If you can't understand that I don't know what to tell you

Those who don't understand it need to head down to the lone star state for a few Friday nights. Some towns completely shut down for game time. Here, local fans might have an appreciation dinner for the local team at the end of the season. Down there? It happens every week. And you might want to have a look at some of the HS stadiums down there. A school with a student body of 2500 will have a stadium seating 12000 to18000. Have a look at what the best programs in Tennessee have, and compare it to what the average programs in Texas have. It will be a little bigger.

Here? Tennessee folks enjoy going to HS games. In Texas, it is a way of life. If you doubt it? Get on google maps, and have a look at some of those schools. You will see it.
 

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