LakeMaryFLVol
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While at Tennessee he was bad. However, his overall record is 84-54, 4-2 in bowl games, and does have 4 conference championships under his belt. As much hate as some on her have for have for him, no way he is top 20 worst coaches of all time.Dobbs made Butch look as good as possible. Do not get it twisted butch was a terrible coach
Hey now! Sparky is family! In-law family anyway. He did beat UT once and had some good teams (at Morristown West).No way I'm clicking through that, but Kiffin should not be there. And the list sucks if Sparky Woods, Brad Scott, Curley Hallman, Gerry Dinardo, Mike Dubose, Ray Goff and Woody Widenhoffer aren't on the list.
Frankly, and I know I'll get flamed for this, I would not include Kiffhole or Jones in that group. With Kiffhole, it's hard to gauge on his one year here. I never liked him, and still don't, but I don't think we have enough evidence to convict him to this list. As for Butch, he inherited a terrible mess from Dools. He got 2 successive 9 win seasons before flaming out in his 5th year. In my view, he started to move the needle upwards from where he started.
Iām just not nearly as high on Kiffin as you, not as a HC. Yes there were some limits on scholarships at USC but 28-15 is mediocre there, especially following Carroll. The cupboard was not bare. He has had 2 good seasons in 8 full ones of being the HC including 1 in Oakland and is barely above .500 the rest of the time. I wouldnāt say he is bad and certainly not deserving of this list but I wouldnāt call him outstanding. Not as a HC anyway.How in the world is Kiffin on that list. Like him or not, the guy is an outstanding football coach, period. He did some really good things his 1 year here, he āfailedā at USC going 28-15 in 3.5 years there, was one of the best if not the very best OC in the country while at Bama, and he had an historic first year at lowly FAU last season. I donāt care what you think of him personally, but he doesnāt belong on any list at any time for any reason with Butch Jones and Derek Dooley.
Cool. Yeah, he was just under .500 at SC. I believe that was back in the Steve Taneyhill days. Seems like SC had one really good year with Taneyhill at QB but I think it was the year after Sparky left. I could be wrong but that seems right.I once ate dinner at the same table at a banquet with him. He's a super nice guy.... Not such a good college head coach.
We (UT) had three coaches make the top twenty, namely Kiffin, Dooley, and Jones. Is anyone surprised?
http://www.hooch.net/these-are-the-...&D4cHN=1&D4cTCHN=1&D_4_6cALL=1&D_4_6_10cALL=1
3 really good seasons?
Iād say more like 1.5 really good seasons. 2013 was bad, 2014 finished well but not much better. 2015 was by far his best year imo, despite blowing 2 games he all but had won vs Florida and Oklahoma....even played well at Bama. 2016 had 3 good games (Fla, Ga, TAM) but was wildly disappointing after blowing the East title with inexcusable losses vs SCar and Vandy. And of course, he authored the worst season in program history in 2017.
Any list put out there about anything is almost always going to be challenged. Any sports talk show on tv is the same way, why? Because all who view it have a different perspective definition of the title. Always was, always will.We (UT) had three coaches make the top twenty, namely Kiffin, Dooley, and Jones. Is anyone surprised?
http://www.hooch.net/these-are-the-...&D4cHN=1&D4cTCHN=1&D_4_6cALL=1&D_4_6_10cALL=1
I still can't blame Hamilton for Kiffin. A national championship coordinator with NFL head coaching experience that comes with a ready made coaching staff had to look like a no brainer.Kiffin, Dooley and Botch all sucked. Neither one should have ever been hired. I mean look at them now. None has a major D1 job.
I find it hard to consider a coach who won an SEC championship, and beat a Steve Spurrier coached Florida team twice in the same season to do so, one of the worst coaches of all time.Butch Jones
Rich Rodriguez
Dork Dooley
Mike DuBose (who i personally loved)
Ron Zook
Theres many ex Notre Dame coaches who are among the worst head coaches ever. UND sucked balls with some of their hires. Brian Kelly has been a good hire overall but he is a douche.
So many horrenndous head coaches. Those are a few I think of though