SEC Regular Season Awards Announced

#4
#4
I am very happy for ZZ, but man I still feel like Mashack is the most under-appreciated defender nationally in quite some time. Sure, he got the Field of 68 NDPOY, but he deserves more recognition than just a single outlet honoring him. He’s probably one of the best defenders to never win a single conference or national DPOY award, IMO.
 
#7
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Wade Taylor IV shouldn't be first team...

14th in PPG
4th in APG
81st in RPG
23rd in SPG

I think Tre Johnson (who lead SEC in PPG) should have been there instead. Could also argue Murray-Boyles from South Carolina was more deserving. Seems more like they wanted 1 from each of the top 5 teams and that is why he was there.

Also not sure these 2 should have been 3rd team.

Mark Mitchell averaged 14.3 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1 steal and 1 block
Chad Baker-Mazara averaged 12.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.6 block

Asa Newell scored more PPG and more rebounds than both. Or could have went with Fears who scored more per game than both adding over 4 rebounds and assists per game too with 1.5 steals a game as well.

That's my only gripes though really.
 
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I am very happy for ZZ, but man I still feel like Mashack is the most under-appreciated defender nationally in quite some time. Sure, he got the Field of 68 NDPOY, but he deserves more recognition than just a single outlet honoring him. He’s probably one of the best defenders to never win a single conference or national DPOY award, IMO.
I hate when yall do this!!

Mashack is just as good defender as ZZ! Post like this creates division! This is a DEFENSIVE team! Any of these guys can win defense awards! When one win, they all win. Let’s congratulate ZZ for his achievements and Mashack for his without bringing up what the other one did!

They BOTH work hard! Both underdogs!!
 
#9
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Wade Taylor IV shouldn't be first team...

14th in PPG
4th in APG
81st in RPG
23rd in SPG

I think Tre Johnson (who lead SEC in PPG) should have been there instead. Could also argue Murray-Boyles from South Carolina was more deserving. Seems more like they wanted 1 from each of the top 5 teams and that is why he was there.

Also not sure these 2 should have been 3rd team.

Mark Mitchell averaged 14.3 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1 steal and 1 block
Chad Baker-Mazara averaged 12.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.6 block

Asa Newell scored more PPG and more rebounds than both. Or could have went with Fears who scored more per game than both adding over 4 rebounds and assists per game too with 1.5 steals a game as well.

That's my only gripes though really.

Yep he seemed worse this year.
 
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I am very happy for ZZ, but man I still feel like Mashack is the most under-appreciated defender nationally in quite some time. Sure, he got the Field of 68 NDPOY, but he deserves more recognition than just a single outlet honoring him. He’s probably one of the best defenders to never win a single conference or national DPOY award, IMO.
One thing we know for certain, on our team it’s Mashack who draws the other teams best offensive wing player most every game. If a 4 is killing us like Brakefield did, we ended up trying Mashack on him. Zeigler is excellent, but it’s mostly against other point guards or he sags down to disrupt. Mashack guards 1-4 and occasionally will go against a 5. I recall last year Barnes trying Mashack on Edey a series or 2. We’re fortunate to have 2 outstanding defensive players, but there is an argument to be made for both guys as to who’s the best defender. JMO , TIFWIW
 
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I hate when yall do this!!

Mashack is just as good defender as ZZ! Post like this creates division! This is a DEFENSIVE team! Any of these guys can win defense awards! When one win, they all win. Let’s congratulate ZZ for his achievements and Mashack for his without bringing up what the other one did!

They BOTH work hard! Both underdogs!!

You’re overreacting. How is noting that Mashack is an under-appreciated defender NATIONALLY in any way creating division on the team or the fanbase? It’s by no means an insult to ZZ to point that out.
 
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One thing we know for certain, on our team it’s Mashack who draws the other teams best offensive wing player most every game. If a 4 is killing us like Brakefield did, we ended up trying Mashack on him. Zeigler is excellent, but it’s mostly against other point guards or he sags down to disrupt. Mashack guards 1-4 and occasionally will go against a 5. I recall last year Barnes trying Mashack on Edey a series or 2. We’re fortunate to have 2 outstanding defensive players, but there is an argument to be made for both guys as to who’s the best defender. JMO , TIFWIW

If Mashack was 6'8" he wouldn't be under-appreciated at all. Versatility for days and a motor that simply doesn't quit. Like Barnes said in his post-game for South Carolina, it's rare you get a player like that and he's been blessed to have 2 of them on the same team.
 
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#13
#13
You’re overreacting. How is noting that Mashack is an under-appreciated defender NATIONALLY in any way creating division on the team or the fanbase? It’s by no means an insult to ZZ to point that out.
Because you did it under a post that SPECIFICALLY celebrated ZZ!!

Perception is everything! I’m not overreacting, you’re childish!! If the post is about Mashack, then speak n praise him on his specific post, but why bring up Mashack, give ZZ backhand compliments, while also questioning ZZ hard work…

Grow up!!!
 
#14
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Because you did it under a post that SPECIFICALLY celebrated ZZ!!

Perception is everything! I’m not overreacting, you’re childish!! If the post is about Mashack, then speak n praise him on his specific post, but why bring up Mashack, give ZZ backhand compliments, while also questioning ZZ hard work…

Grow up!!!

First off, this is not a thread specific to Zakai Zeigler, it’s a thread about all of the announced SEC Regular Season Awards.

Second, I would love to know how you jumped to the conclusion that I’m questioning how hard of a worker ZZ is by saying that Mashack may be one of the best defenders to never win a DPOY award. I think you’re going to have a hard time drawing a link between those two points if you have any intellectual honesty.

Third, absolutely no one other than you is taking offense to me pointing out Mashack’s under-appreciation by the national/regional awards bodies. So maybe you should do some reflection here about who is being childish. It’s not me.
 
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First off, this is not a thread specific to Zakai Zeigler, it’s a thread about all of the announced SEC Regular Season Awards.

Second, I would love to know how you jumped to the conclusion that I’m questioning how hard of a worker ZZ is by saying that Mashack may be one of the best defenders to never win a DPOY award. I think you’re going to have a hard time drawing a link between those two points if you have any intellectual honesty.

Third, absolutely no one other than you is taking offense to me pointing out Mashack’s under-appreciation by the national/regional awards bodies. So maybe you should do some reflection here about who is being childish. It’s not me.
First off, I’m aware of the original post is about, and I can still question why you asked the things you asked.

Secondly, you don’t control how my responses are! Again, perception is everything, so if I took your response the way I did, then THATS THAT!

Lastly, congrats to everyone who did not say anything in regards to your post. I’m not sure what that have to do with me personally. I’ve NEVER been a “follower” so because others may never say a peak, doesn’t mean I have to follow the leader, I AM THE LEADER!

You can feel how you want, while writing ALL THE PARAGRAPHS your phone will allow, but when you’re done, and after you add your last punctuation mark, IT DOES NOT CHANGE HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOUR POST! And I can add my 2 cents just like you added yours!

If it wasn’t any ill will, then MOVE ON! If it don’t apply, let it fly! But I’ll still feel that when one person is celebrated, there’s no need to bring up someone else in the conversation and nothing a “STRANGER” on the internet can do about my thought process when it comes to that!

Anything else?
 
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If Mashack was 6'8" he wouldn't be under-appreciated at all. Versatility for days and a motor that simple doesn't quit. Like Barnes said in his post-game for South Carolina, it's rare you get a player like that and he's been blessed to have 2 of them on the same team.
If he were 6'8", he would get drafted and play in the league. He'll still get a FA deal for an effort and can probably play in the G league if he wishes
 
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First off, this is not a thread specific to Zakai Zeigler, it’s a thread about all of the announced SEC Regular Season Awards.

Second, I would love to know how you jumped to the conclusion that I’m questioning how hard of a worker ZZ is by saying that Mashack may be one of the best defenders to never win a DPOY award. I think you’re going to have a hard time drawing a link between those two points if you have any intellectual honesty.

Third, absolutely no one other than you is taking offense to me pointing out Mashack’s under-appreciation by the national/regional awards bodies. So maybe you should do some reflection here about who is being childish. It’s not me.
This place is such a joke sometimes.
 
#24
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I believe they do but you can't vote for your own player..

Makes sense then why ZZ over JM

JM is the better defender.

But in college basketball, point of attack defense is SUPER valuable. And while JM is a better overall defender, ZZ is the best point of attack defender in the nation.

So that one thing is super disruptive and I’m sure coaches game planned against ZZ heavily. And then still couldn’t really stop it in the games. Thus leading to them giving him the nod over guys like Broome or JM.
 
#25
#25
First off, this is not a thread specific to Zakai Zeigler, it’s a thread about all of the announced SEC Regular Season Awards.

Second, I would love to know how you jumped to the conclusion that I’m questioning how hard of a worker ZZ is by saying that Mashack may be one of the best defenders to never win a DPOY award. I think you’re going to have a hard time drawing a link between those two points if you have any intellectual honesty.

Third, absolutely no one other than you is taking offense to me pointing out Mashack’s under-appreciation by the national/regional awards bodies. So maybe you should do some reflection here about who is being childish. It’s not me.
That person is 100% someone who wandered here from one of the Vol FB groups lol the responses to you read exactly like the posts there. When you think VN is bad, go over there sometime, those are some WEIRD groups.
 
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